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Kenny Stills Train ..... (2 Viewers)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Fells gobbled up 2 TDs
The Frankman
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rockaction
Footballguy
They're already all-in on older WRs or guys that get hurt. Might as well keep all four.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I think the odd man out is Will Fuller. The team sounded frustrated with his ongoing health problems by the end of last year and it's hard to blame them.
The way I see it Cooks easily finishes WR#1, Stills finishes solidly WR#2, Fuller/Cobb fight to end the season WR#3 depending on who can stay healthy, and Coutee probably is traded for a bag of magic beans before the season ever begins.
In the past few months HOU has brought in Cooks/Stills/Cobb and I don't think it's because they have a lot of faith in Fuller/Coutee. There's a non-zero chance that Coutee gets shipped out and the new "dog house" position goes to Fuller if (when?) he gets injured again. The past three seasons Fuller has averaged playing in just over 9 games/season. I actually like Fuller... he just can't stay on the field. That's why it amazes me that everyone thinks that Cooks is the injury prone one if you look over his very productive career.
The way I see it Cooks easily finishes WR#1, Stills finishes solidly WR#2, Fuller/Cobb fight to end the season WR#3 depending on who can stay healthy, and Coutee probably is traded for a bag of magic beans before the season ever begins.
In the past few months HOU has brought in Cooks/Stills/Cobb and I don't think it's because they have a lot of faith in Fuller/Coutee. There's a non-zero chance that Coutee gets shipped out and the new "dog house" position goes to Fuller if (when?) he gets injured again. The past three seasons Fuller has averaged playing in just over 9 games/season. I actually like Fuller... he just can't stay on the field. That's why it amazes me that everyone thinks that Cooks is the injury prone one if you look over his very productive career.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Time to disembark...
Texans WR Kenny Stills was arrested during a protest outside of Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron's home.
Stills was part of a group of more than 100 who marched to Cameron's home in Louisville as part of a Breonna Taylor protest organized by Until Freedom on Tuesday. Minneapolis NAACP President Leslie Redmond and reality TV stars Porsha Williams and Yandy Smith were also among those arrested. Stills was charged with a felony of being an intimidating participant in a legal process, misdemeanor disorderly conduct, and criminal trespassing.
Texans WR Kenny Stills was arrested during a protest outside of Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron's home.
Stills was part of a group of more than 100 who marched to Cameron's home in Louisville as part of a Breonna Taylor protest organized by Until Freedom on Tuesday. Minneapolis NAACP President Leslie Redmond and reality TV stars Porsha Williams and Yandy Smith were also among those arrested. Stills was charged with a felony of being an intimidating participant in a legal process, misdemeanor disorderly conduct, and criminal trespassing.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Based on what I've read -- which is admittedly probably incomplete -- this sounds like a ludicrous over-charge.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It most certainly is, all to prove a pointless point. The obligatory "charges were dropped" is soon forthcoming.
pinequick
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rockaction
Footballguy
It sure did. Nobody should construe this endorsement or non-endorsement of Stills, but interfering with a witness is certainly not a charge that was meant to cover this type of behavior.
Also don't like the gathering of people outside a public official's house, but protests gonna protest.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They charged everyone there with this. It’s a ridiculously inflated charge. I think they charged 73 with it, along with Stills.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Correct.
Back in the day they would have pelted the resident with rotten fruit, or perhaps tarred & feathered them.
Simply standing outside of someone’s home seems pretty civil, comparatively.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Apologies to all. I read both Will Fuller and Kelly Stills names in this thread and heard both of their hamstrings tear in the process. Both out for the year per Shefty.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Being released. Will go on waivers.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Chiefs should sign him. I was not a fan of him in Miami but the guy can run fly patterns. He runs his mouth too much and has terrible observations he thinks everyone wants to hear about...that said how could the Chiefs not take a look? Watkins can't stay on the field and Hardman just cannot get traction.
If they could sign Bell they can sign Stills.
If they could sign Bell they can sign Stills.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Oh and Happy Thanksgiving Kenny!
-The Texans
-The Texans
whole-show
Footballguy
Sounds like it was a mutual agreement. Guessing he wanted out and they were willing to let him go. He probably wants to go to a playoff team with not many years left and the Texans were fine letting him go and explore.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
This move seems even stranger with Fuller gone for ROY. I guess Texans are in full rebuild mode and want to see what they have in Coulter
The Frankman
Footballguy
Yeah this is weird. I had read he would be claimed as early as Thursday... has anyone heard about him visiting teams? I don't think he'd have to work out; teams could just watch his in-season tape.
rockaction
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Then the teams that need a WR are being stupid if that's their reasoning.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I dunno, the first three teams I thought of were....
BUF - First place in the division and John Brown is on IR. Seems to me Stills would be plug and play to fill that role and make the D respect the deep pass while Diggs/Beasley do the real damage in the intermediate/short game.
CLE - In the playoffs if they started today and KhaDarel Hodge is their WR#3. In any run heavy offense just having a deep threat that scares the S's away from the LOS is a huge benefit even if you only actually take a few shots a game to keep them honest.
WAS - They might end up winning this division and supposedly the reason they are going with Alex Smith is because they were trying to win games right now. Stills might step onto the field and immediately be the #2 receiver on the team. I thought Dontrell Inman's career had winded down to a dead stop and he's in the mix in WAS because the receivers are so bad.
lac - Herbert throws a pretty deep ball and good luck finding anything close to a WR#3 on that roster. If Stills was less interested in winning but just wanted the chance to pile up some stats to get a contract next year in a Breshad Perryman sort of way teaming with Herbert and his arm gives him the best chance to resuscitate his career. With injuries and covid who knows what could happen to your role in a week or two?
IMO if any of these teams are worried about Stills having a negative impact on their locker room it reflects just how fragile these coaches confidence are in themselves. There is really ONLY upside and if Stills is even late to a meeting drop him.
socrates
Footballguy
I don't want to hear about any design to take touches away from Gabriel Davis. I don't need that kind of negativity from this forum!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
rockaction said:
Somewhere between these two positions or thoughts is the right answer. I do think that teams would think twice about Stills and here is why, Kenny decided to shame the owner Ross for his affiliation politically and did it in a very disrespectful manner thru social media, Head Coach Brian Flores went after him thru training camp and then shipped him to Houston, those are simply the facts. Frank, I think I understand what you are saying but I would offer up this, the NFL is a tight group, 32 Owners might not see eye to eye all the time but you have owners like Jerry Jones trying to expand the brand by spearheading theRams going to Los Angeles, the Stadium etc...they look out for each other and they speak the same language. None of those 32 owners want to be embarrassed by an employee.The Frankman said:
Now you can say they are being stupid and many will agree with you but this is a situation where the production just doesn't add up to the potential headaches.
He's not a WR1, not sure he's really a WR2, he only averages around 2-3 catches a game most weeks even when he was a name, his production is through the floor and so is he better than most WR4/5 types on teams? Where do you think he is an insta-fit? Yeah, he's a little better or maybe better than a few places you can point to but he's not going to change the arc of an NFL team and there might be guys walking the streets about as good as he is at this stage of his career.
He had a 2-3 year run after New Orleans showed him the door where he wasn't facing great competition in Miami, it was a lousy roster not deep with very accomplished skills guys and Still kinda fleeced the Phins for $32 MIllion. He's never eclipsed 1,000 yds that I can recall or had a steady diet of 60+ catch seasons which is less than 4 a game and he doesn't come close. He is a specialty gadget type you throw long to a few times a game and hope to get lucky, he's not dominant and he doesn't move sticks.
Sincerely,
Jaded Phinsfan
The Frankman
Footballguy
I'm saying they are stupid if the team desperately needs WR help, they can fit it in the cap, but go "Nah let's not sign him because politics". It's moronic; owners aren't boy scouts either considering Kraft is getting away with child sex trafficking and it got swept under the rug because of money. Realistically, Houston was not a good location because of BOB and the WR depth. A change of scenery will do him good.
Off topic, please don't mention that fleecing of St. Louis as "expanding the brand". That was a shameful display of owner greed in moving a franchise with loyal fans to a market that didn't need another LA team.
Off topic, please don't mention that fleecing of St. Louis as "expanding the brand". That was a shameful display of owner greed in moving a franchise with loyal fans to a market that didn't need another LA team.
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Stills had a good 2019, based on top 10 catch rate and QB rating when targeted. He also caught the ball from Tannehill on the Miami Miracle in the 2018 game against Brady and the Patriots. He could help some teams, unless he has some injury.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-nfl-most-efficient-wide-receivers-2019
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-nfl-most-efficient-wide-receivers-2019
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Visiting Buffalo. Optimism a deal gets done.
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Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Really unfortunate for Buffalo to have Beasley get hurt....Stills can help
The Frankman
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
This is wildly false and anybody following the case can tell you that. This is slander.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
This move was made about a month too late. Stills could have been absorbing the playbook all this time and maybe even getting some practice in if circumstances would have fallen just right for him.
