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Bullying/hazing in the locker room in our day ranged from the tame end of being balmed (Ben Gay to the genitals) to the harsher end of being sodemized with a stick. The cool dudes doing this stuff rationalized it by claiming it was milder than what happened in years past. Maybe some day your kid will be the one found rolled up in a wrestling mat and we can tell you to grow some thicker bark.
I completely disagee--Martin was the only person who actually handled anything regarding this situation in a responsible fashion. If he fights back and punches his teammates--then he's the one that gets categorized as the problem. I've never played professional sports--but I've played a ton of competitive amateur sports in my upbringing--- and there is no room for what the Dolphins and what their players did here. There is a vast difference between constructive criticism, and slight ribbing designed to enhance performance and production on a field versus outright bullying. This 300lb monster of a dude had the emotional maturity to drive himself to a hospital and not go on a rampage and injure others even when he was in the middle of having an emotional meltdown. He should be applauded and frankly--he's biggest man in this situation. Shame on the other players involved and shame on the Dolphins for allowing this to happen right under their noses.
What better way to grow closer as a team than to sodomize each other? I can't think of a better way.Wait, What??
Not if he's insane. The NFL might be his only option.
Do you think thats all it took and where it started? If you do, then you are missing something.
You just compared a guy who was bullied, and we do not have all the facts still, to a murderer. Good job.
Sorry, I was trying to compare him to a former Ivy League genius that got picked on (teased, bullied, hazed, etc.), cracked, and then murdered people.
Yeah, no offense to BNB because I assume he didn't take part in that, but there is a difference between hazing and a bunch of gay guys raping somebody.What better way to grow closer as a team than to sodomize each other? I can't think of a better way.Wait, What??
You're probably right.
No, I'm sure there was more, but enough to make a guy take off to the hospital? He's obviously got more problems that some guys hazing him. Unless he's getting sodomized by his teammates, but I've never been on a team that did that #### like the other dude in this thread.
I wonder if Adolf Hitler was bullied?Yes, one of the best comparisons I've ever heard.
There's a special place in hell for them? Geez, what exactly do you think they did to him? I don't think an entire locker room would allow the guy to be treated as bad as its being made out to be. Just my opinion
Little known fact:Hitler wrote Mein Kampf while taped naked to a goalpost.I wonder if Adolf Hitler was bullied?Yes, one of the best comparisons I've ever heard.
I appreciate your post and your POV. I think we are taking things we know in our own World and trying to apply it to what happens in the NFL, that's a big leap IMO. We don't know what happened, I heard a rumor Martin got the krabs and this was how the team handled it, by making a joke and not wanting to sit near him.
Agree again, there's no way the entire locker room would allow him to be religiously bullied all the time. Martin tried to play LT after struggling at RT last season. He did a big off season program of weightlifting and strength training, he was failing badly at LT this season. They trade for McKinnie who is immediately installed at LT, martin rolled to the right, he allowed huge sack in the NE game that caused a fumble, I think he cracked. This event just brought the whole ugly thing to a head and he exploded like a pimple
I would wait til the next time one of them guys tried to bully me or play some practical joke and take his head and slam it into the wall... Bullying over. Just my 
. I wouldn't check into a hospital.... Unless he likes str8 jackets haha ... anyways put your foot in someones ### and usually bullying stops.
Unless it's multiple guys, or even one guy for that matter, just as big and far more prone to be violent.
Kicking the crap out of someone usual doesn't end well in most situations. I don't think that would be good for him either. How about he just keeps his mouth shut and goes about his business? There's no reason to even play into that stuff. It never ends well.
I am not turning Martin into a poster child for abuse-- I'm giving the dude props for handling his emotions in a manner that is not dangerous to others. Nobody knows the full extent of what happened that caused him to break--but every indiciation is that the cafeteria incident was just the straw that broke the camels back--from everything that I have read--the other players have been harassing him for a long while. We all have cases where we are emotionally charged and do and say things in the heat of specific events. This man hit his breaking point--and had the mental capacity and maturity to leave the situation in a safe manner and take himself to a hospital. If every person in the world had the ability to control themselves like this when they are emotionally charged--there would be far fewer homicides, cases of domestic violence, battery..etc. To call a man who has this type of self control and emotional maturity "the problem" and not his "teammates"--who should be spending their time on focusing on how to be a better team and better teammates --is ridiculous. It takes the same amount of energy to do something nice as it does to be a d-bag. His teammates chose to spend their energy being d-bags---and in my opinion--that speaks very little of their character and morals. I've been in many locker rooms and have played plenty of sports-- there is a vast difference between being an alpha male and being a d-bag-- it's not required that you be a d-bag just because you are in a locker room. Any yes---I don't care if somebody is in a locker room or not-- there is zero excuse for anybody to pleasure themselves in front of employees at a work place (outside the adult entertainment industry). If Haley actually did that and nobody informed him in a professional manner that he needed to stop doing it--there is a big problem there too.
I'm sure he's not the only one. :X
