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According to George Bremer of the Herald Bulletin, the Colts remain "confident and optimistic" Andrew Luck (calf) will be ready for Week 1 against the Chargers.

That's been the company line for the Colts all offseason, though we're going on three months of hearing about Luck's calf. Coach Frank Reich confirmed that Luck will be held out at least through the team's off day on Tuesday and admitted that the franchise quarterback is still dealing with a "degree of pain" in his injured calf. It seems the Colts are recycling many of the same lines they recited two years ago when Luck's balky shoulder kept him out for all of 2017. A notoriously slow healer, Luck's Week 1 status can no longer be taken for granted.

SOURCE: George Bremer on Twitter

Aug 9, 2019, 2:50 PM ET

 

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23 minutes ago, Faust said:

 

Not degree of soreness.  Not degree of discomfort.

Degree of pain.

NFW am I touching him...

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Colts coach Frank Reich said Andrew Luck (calf) won't take part in joint practices with the Browns this week.

The Colts will practice alongside the Browns (their next preseason opponent) on Wednesday and Thursday, but they'll be doing so without Luck, who continues to be hampered by a nagging calf injury. ESPN's Mike Wells notes that Luck has only gotten three practices under his belt all offseason. Luck has been working on the side with quarterback guru Tom House, though there's still no estimate on when we might see him back on the gridiron. The Colts and Luck have both maintained that he'll be ready for Week 1, but we've seen this song and dance before with Indy. This is starting to look like 2017 all over again.

SOURCE: Mike Wells on Twitter

Aug 12, 2019, 11:07 AM ET

 

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Colts owner Jim Irsay said Andrew Luck (calf) is dealing with a "small little bone issue."

It adds some details to the injury that's sidelined Luck at training camp. It's obviously good that Luck isn't dealing with anything more serious, but his status still can't be taken for granted. The Colts have maintained confidence that Luck will be ready for Week 1.

SOURCE: SiriusXM NFL

Aug 13, 2019, 9:20 AM ET

 

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Not ready to write or express a formal opinion on the latest #AndrewLuck news and Irsay quotes but here are preliminary thoughts by putting all the pieces together.

— David J. Chao (@ProFootballDoc) August 13, 2019

 

1) team says calf
2) Luck says lower leg
3) no one says Achilles
4) Luck indicated ankle pain
5) Irsay says bone issue
6) irsay started to say "Mo…"
7) timining if injury not pinpointed
😎 clearly has lingered
9) MRI shows nothing
Am I missing anything?

— David J. Chao (@ProFootballDoc) August 13, 2019

 

When there are differing stories, the truth is always somewhere in the middle. What might explain this all is: Myositis Ossificans.

— David J. Chao (@ProFootballDoc) August 13, 2019

 

Typically, myositis ossificans happens after direct trauma and bleeding. This might imply the issue started during seasom as offseason there should be no trauma. The bome formation does take months.

— David J. Chao (@ProFootballDoc) August 13, 2019

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all of this speculative, but if we go with this theory of the myowhatever, from the twitter link posted by @GroveDiesel

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Conservative treatment is implemented for most patients with excellent outcomes, with surgical excision being an option for persistent symptoms or progressive disease. Typically, athletes are able to progress to light activity at 2 to 3 months, full activity by 6 months, and back to their preinjury level by 1 year.

plus the dr chao statement

44 minutes ago, zeeshan2 said:

This might imply the issue started during seasom as offseason there should be no trauma. The bome formation does take months.

technically he should be good to go sometime between now and December. sign me up.

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In a hypothetical scenario where the mysterious bone issue becomes Luck missing more than one game, I would advocate all Colts fans going on strike until Irsay sells the team.

Dude makes Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder look like value-added ownership.

 

 

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An easy pass at the moment.  I don't mind drafting guys with injury histories, but they should at least be healthy when I draft them.

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2 hours ago, TheWinz said:

An easy pass at the moment.  I don't mind drafting guys with injury histories, but they should at least be healthy when I draft them.

Dang, he had been sitting firmly in the 2 or 3 spot. Now?  :sigh:

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Per Zak Keefer via ESPN Fantasy Life app:

 

Colts aren't ready to determine whether Luck will or won't be ready for a wweek 1 start.  Plan right now is to calm the ankle pain down. 

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here's a version that is more descriptive of what he actually said.

https://cbs4indy.com/2019/08/13/chris-ballard-explains-latest-on-lucks-injury-shifts-attention-to-ankle/

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Ballard: tested ankle yesterday, saw specialist. Front of ankle needs to be addressed. High ankle-ish. Up by the calf.

 

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INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. — In a conference call, Colts general manager Chris Ballard shined some light on the injury preventing Andrew Luck from practicing.

Ballard stated that Luck has been dealing with a calf strain that led to a posterior ankle issue.

He said that while he believes the ankle issue is an accumulative effect over many years, the calf injury played a role in exasperating it.

The general manager also cleared up questions surrounding Jim Irsay’s comments about a “small little bone” being the cause of Luck’s pain. Ballard stated that what Irsay was referring to is the os trigonum. Ballard said the os trigonum has since been ruled out after further testing.

He went on to say the plan moving forward is to take things week-by-week and to continue rehab.

Ballard also stated that while he’s not ready to say Luck’s availability for week one is in jeopardy, “We’ll tell you when we think the shift is going to happen.

“Most likely, he doesn’t play in preseason,” said Ballard.

While Ballard said it’s not a 100% guarantee that they have pinpointed Luck’s exact issue, they think the ankle is the answer.

He elaborated that straight-line movement isn’t a problem for Luck, but pain arises when the quarterback tries to move laterally.

 

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Coach has already said he would play in a real game. So does this doctor guy. Luck already practiced 3 days before the Colts changed their approach. I'm sure they've learned a little something from the shoulder.

This thread acts like he just got his foot amputated or something. SP can be chicken little sometimes. Remember back when Tyreek was going to be suspended 16 games?

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Colts GM Chris Ballard said Andrew Luck's ankle "needs to be addressed."

Luck underwent more testing recently, and the Colts believe Luck doesn't exactly have the "small little bone issue" they originally thought he had. Instead, they are now focusing on the "high ankle area." It's certainly odd that they haven't found the exact cause of Luck's discomfort, especially since he's been dealing with it for months. Ballard said they are taking Luck "day by day" while they fine-tune his rehab treatment. There are no plans for surgery at this time, but Ballard didn't guarantee that Luck would be ready for Week 1. Stay tuned.

SOURCE: Mike Chappell on Twitter

Aug 13, 2019, 7:54 PM ET

 

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30 minutes ago, cloppbeast said:

Coach has already said he would play in a real game. So does this doctor guy. Luck already practiced 3 days before the Colts changed their approach. I'm sure they've learned a little something from the shoulder.

This thread acts like he just got his foot amputated or something. SP can be chicken little sometimes. Remember back when Tyreek was going to be suspended 16 games?

Could still happen  ;)

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1 hour ago, cloppbeast said:

Coach has already said he would play in a real game. So does this doctor guy. Luck already practiced 3 days before the Colts changed their approach. I'm sure they've learned a little something from the shoulder.

This thread acts like he just got his foot amputated or something. SP can be chicken little sometimes. Remember back when Tyreek was going to be suspended 16 games?

Remember when luck and irsay said the neck was nothing and he’d be at camp, er... week 1, er... 

There is major precedent for caution here, featuring this exact same cast of characters.

You are MORE than welcome to charge forth like it’s all smoke, but mocking others for not doing so makes you look silly. 

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1 hour ago, cloppbeast said:

Coach has already said he would play in a real game. So does this doctor guy. Luck already practiced 3 days before the Colts changed their approach. I'm sure they've learned a little something from the shoulder.

This thread acts like he just got his foot amputated or something. SP can be chicken little sometimes. Remember back when Tyreek was going to be suspended 16 games?

I'm a little wary of getting too worked up as well, at the moment, but I don't draft for 2 more weeks. At the very least, Luck is no longer a top-5 QB, its far too deep a position to deal with this uncertainty. 

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Yea, there's risk, but he's got a good shot at overall #1 QB if healthy.  All things staying the same, I'll be targeting in every draft.

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15 minutes ago, [icon] said:

Remember when luck and irsay said the shoulder was nothing and he’d be at camp, er... week 1, er... 

There is major precedent for caution here, featuring this exact same cast of characters.

You are MORE than welcome to charge forth like it’s all smoke, but mocking others for not doing so makes you look silly. 

Tyreek Hill's tanking value this spring demonstrated the fantasy community's collective fear of the unknown. Pointing out this panic tendency and how it might relate to Luck, if you think that makes me look silly, then so be it.

 

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38 minutes ago, travdogg said:

 

 its far too deep a position to deal with this uncertainty. 

 

The deepness makes me less worried about his uncertainty and more likely to draft him.  I might grab Luck in the 8th round based on his upside and know that I can get a solid backup in rounds 12-15.

 

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5 hours ago, Don Hutson said:

The deepness makes me less worried about his uncertainty and more likely to draft him.  I might grab Luck in the 8th round based on his upside and know that I can get a solid backup in rounds 12-15.

 

Exactly.

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7 hours ago, Don Hutson said:

The deepness makes me less worried about his uncertainty and more likely to draft him.  I might grab Luck in the 8th round based on his upside and know that I can get a solid backup in rounds 12-15.

 

Lol I did exactly that a few years ago when he was injured, and took Winston to cover the first few weeks if luck missed time. No ww before week 1, and the TB game got moved to the bye week because of a hurricane or something, so I was scrambling for a starter. Traded luck for Andy dalton I think? He got me -2 that week. 

Sorry for the personal anecdote, but I still shake my head at how that whole thing transpired. 

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8 hours ago, Manster said:

Yea, there's risk, but he's got a good shot at overall #1 QB if healthy.  All things staying the same, I'll be targeting in every draft.

Except he's not "healthy". You've identified risk but it seems the exact nature and magnitude of that risk is more or less unknown at this point. People comparing this to a Tyreek Hill suspension are talking apples and oranges. This is a player that many drafted two years ago based on "a good shot at overall #1 QB if healthy" who never played a single snap that year. This is an organization that more or less allowed everyone to believe everything was going to be just fine.

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8 hours ago, Manster said:

Yea, there's risk, but he's got a good shot at overall #1 QB if healthy.  All things staying the same, I'll be targeting in every draft.

By all things staying the same, do you mean these last 3 blurbs from Roto...

Colts GM Chris Ballard said Andrew Luck's ankle "needs to be addressed."

Luck underwent more testing recently, and the Colts believe Luck doesn't exactly have the "small little bone issue" they originally thought he had. Instead, they are now focusing on the "high ankle area." It's certainly odd that they haven't found the exact cause of Luck's discomfort, especially since he's been dealing with it for months. Ballard said they are taking Luck "day by day" while they fine-tune his rehab treatment. There are no plans for surgery at this time, but Ballard didn't guarantee that Luck would be ready for Week 1 and did rule him out for the preseason. Stay tuned.

SOURCE: Mike Chappell on Twitter

Aug 13, 2019, 7:54 PM ET

 

Colts owner Jim Irsay said Andrew Luck (calf) is dealing with a "small little bone issue."

It adds some details to the injury that's sidelined Luck at training camp. It's obviously good that Luck isn't dealing with anything more serious, but his status still can't be taken for granted. The Colts have maintained confidence that Luck will be ready for Week 1.

SOURCE: SiriusXM NFL

Aug 13, 2019, 9:20 AM ET

 

Colts coach Frank Reich said Andrew Luck (calf) won't take part in joint practices with the Browns this week.

The Colts will practice alongside the Browns (their next preseason opponent) on Wednesday and Thursday, but they'll be doing so without Luck, who continues to be hampered by a nagging calf injury. ESPN's Mike Wells notes that Luck has only gotten three practices under his belt all offseason. Luck has been working on the side with quarterback guru Tom House, though there's still no estimate on when we'll see him back on the gridiron. The Colts and Luck have both maintained that he'll be ready for Week 1, but we've seen this song and dance from Indy before. This is starting to look like 2017 all over again.

SOURCE: Mike Wells on Twitter

Aug 12, 2019, 11:07 AM ET

 

If your draft was right now, would you take a healthy Matt Ryan with Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Mohammed Sanu, Austin Hooper, and Devonta Freeman, or an uncertain Andrew Luck with TY Hilton, Devin Funchess, Parris Campbell, Eric Ebron, and Marlon Mack/Hines?

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8 hours ago, Manster said:

Yea, there's risk, but he's got a good shot at overall #1 QB if healthy.  All things staying the same, I'll be targeting in every draft.

Doesn't see like an 'if'. He's not healthy.

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Stephen Holder of the Indianapolis Star clarified that Andrew Luck has not been diagnosed with a high-ankle sprain.

The Colts, who have never been the most forthcoming with injury details (particularly in regards to Luck), finally admitted what many had long suspected: the quarterback's balky calf isn't the only issue he's dealing with. While Luck's ankle is causing him pain, the Colts have stopped short of calling it a "high sprain." Perhaps it would be better if it was a high sprain, as at least then the Colts would have a clear timetable for their franchise signal-caller. Indianapolis insists Luck is in no danger of missing Week 1, but we're starting to have our doubts.

SOURCE: Stephen Holder on Twitter

Aug 14, 2019, 9:48 AM ET

 

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

inside his ears

Thank you.

I figured either you or Dr Dan would correct me.

:lol:

On a serious note, hope more information develops over the next 10 days or so. Pretty murky outlook atm.

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2 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Thank you.

I figured either you or Dr Dan would correct me.

:lol:

On a serious note, hope more information develops over the next 10 days or so. Pretty murky outlook atm.

Oh, I'm not a real doctor (although I do have a juris doctorate), I just remember a tiny bit about anatomy from high school science classes, despite being that was a loonggg time ago.

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1 minute ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Oh, I'm not a real doctor (although I do have a juris doctorate), I just remember a tiny bit about anatomy from high school science classes, despite being that was a loonggg time ago.

My biology & chemistry profs tried to persuade me to consider med school but I knew I was too squeamish. Actually though my doctor friends tell me that’s common & you can condition yourself.

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On 8/13/2019 at 2:18 PM, TripleThreat said:

HARD PASS. Or last round flier at best 

not moving off this... though I'm not even sure I'd spend a last round on him.  

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I admit I didn't see the latest stuff when I made that previous post......based on the latest, and his history, and the Colts history concerning Luck injuries, I'm concerned....

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8 minutes ago, kittenmittens said:

This is why the Colts turned down a 2nd round pick for Brissett, who is in his contract year?

I'm not doubting that the Colts could have held onto Brissett because of Luck's leg.  But there is no way that the Seahawks offered a second round pick for Brissett.   The Seahawks maybe began the rumor as a bargaining ploy with Wilson.  Or Irsay might have been the source because he is a dingleberry.  Teams often talk up their backup quarterbacks and even start difficult-to-believe trade rumors in order to increase their backup's trade value.  It doesn't work.

 

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David J. Chao @ProFootballDoc

With many unanswered question, there is one I can answer.

Will #AndrewLuck be 100% for start of regular season? Answer: NO

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