It's Survey Season at MyFantasyLeague... (1 Viewer)

ItsOnlytheRiver said:

I love MFL, and have been a loyal fan for years, but I think it's time for this place to stop mailing it in. So when you're filling out your surveys this year be sure to mention these points:

The site design has passed old and has entered archaic. It's time. We have the technology. Make it happen.

The "messages" (AKA Spam) they post at the top of home pages has gotten out of hand. I wouldn't mind the spam if there was perhaps a central account one could log into to manage all their leagues from because dismissing one spam message a week isn't that bad... dismissing it at every league is beyond ridiculous. Plus, a central account would be great anyway and could have a number of great features.

Their live scoring app GameDay hasn't been improved since.. I don't think it ever has. It's had the same crummy bugs since day one.

What else you guys got?

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Sandeman said:

This is the worst website in pay-for fantasy football. OP is exactly right. Stop mailing it in and make the site more user friendly. And don't tell me I can have all that I want if I code it myself. That's not service.

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Ministry of Pain said:

We had the live scoring not work on 2 different weekends. One time I had to do it by pen and paper to get the right numbers and add the differences. When I asked for help the emails back and forth would you drive you nuts. I asked if there was a phone number, customer service number where I could speak to a human being and they said "it's an internet site". I offered to call in case there was fear of long distance charges, just terrible customer service. And all that was after some dingbat tried to handle my issues with their inability to freeze players from waiver wire pick ups after their Thursday games were played.

I will be looking at other options next year, been a Commish for 5-6 leagues on there for about 10 years.

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Greg Russell said:

I agree with the stuff about upgrading the interface and all, and it should be at the top of the list.

As far as actual functionality, my list would be:

1. Make locking players from waivers either obey the setting that is used for FCFS, or give an additional setting that does the same for queued up/BB waivers.

2. Give ability to drop more than one player at a time when doing conditional BB waivers (because salary cap leagues you may have to cut multiple players to afford your blind bid).

3. Give ability to indicate a player should be placed in your starting lineup if you win him in queued up/BB waivers.

4. Scrollbar on the auction chat window and results notifications.

5. For all standings sort criteria, playoff seedings, etc, add "Opponent Points Scored". Right now they only have "Reverse Opponent Points Scored" which makes sense in the NFL where you directly limit opponent scoring so low scoring means you did well. But is beyond idiotic to use as a sort criteria in fantasy where you have no impact on your opponent's scoring so low scoring means only that you had it easy and so are less deserving of winning the tiebreak.

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Gadabout said:

I hate everything about that site except the team I have on it.

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Dizzy said:

Gadabout said:

I hate everything about that site except the team I have on it.

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Gadabout, what site do you prefer (RS Sports, other)?

Just curious because I've been using MFL.com in two leagues for about nine (9) seasons now and one thing I noticed is that the "older" Owners seem to love it and the younger dudes absolutely hate it. I'm kind of on the fence because I'm so familiar with it from using it for so many years, but I can understand some of the frustrations as well and maybe it's time to start looking elsewhere.

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Gadabout said:

Dizzy said:

Gadabout said:

I hate everything about that site except the team I have on it.

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Gadabout, what site do you prefer (RS Sports, other)?

Just curious because I've been using MFL.com in two leagues for about nine (9) seasons now and one thing I noticed is that the "older" Owners seem to love it and the younger dudes absolutely hate it. I'm kind of on the fence because I'm so familiar with it from using it for so many years, but I can understand some of the frustrations as well and maybe it's time to start looking elsewhere.

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I like Flea Flicker and Yahoo.My gripes with MFL is that it looks like a 9th grader's computer science project. Everything seems to take 17 clicks to find. It's just a horrible experience through and through. It doesn't feel like something we should be shelling out all that money for. We (the commish) use it because of the FABB functions.

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ItsOnlytheRiver said:

The "messages" (AKA Spam) they post at the top of home pages has gotten out of hand. I wouldn't mind the spam if there was perhaps a central account one could log into to manage all their leagues from because dismissing one spam message a week isn't that bad... dismissing it at every league is beyond ridiculous. Plus, a central account would be great anyway and could have a number of great features.

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ItsOnlytheRiver said:

Gadabout said:

Dizzy said:

Gadabout said:

I hate everything about that site except the team I have on it.

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Gadabout, what site do you prefer (RS Sports, other)?

Just curious because I've been using MFL.com in two leagues for about nine (9) seasons now and one thing I noticed is that the "older" Owners seem to love it and the younger dudes absolutely hate it. I'm kind of on the fence because I'm so familiar with it from using it for so many years, but I can understand some of the frustrations as well and maybe it's time to start looking elsewhere.

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I like Flea Flicker and Yahoo.My gripes with MFL is that it looks like a 9th grader's computer science project. Everything seems to take 17 clicks to find. It's just a horrible experience through and through. It doesn't feel like something we should be shelling out all that money for. We (the commish) use it because of the FABB functions.

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Well, that's the thing, it's got a lot more functionality than those 2 sites. Someone is going to best them before long, though.

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ItsOnlytheRiver said:

Gadabout said:

Dizzy said:

Gadabout said:

I hate everything about that site except the team I have on it.

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Gadabout, what site do you prefer (RS Sports, other)?

Just curious because I've been using MFL.com in two leagues for about nine (9) seasons now and one thing I noticed is that the "older" Owners seem to love it and the younger dudes absolutely hate it. I'm kind of on the fence because I'm so familiar with it from using it for so many years, but I can understand some of the frustrations as well and maybe it's time to start looking elsewhere.

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I like Flea Flicker and Yahoo.My gripes with MFL is that it looks like a 9th grader's computer science project. Everything seems to take 17 clicks to find. It's just a horrible experience through and through. It doesn't feel like something we should be shelling out all that money for. We (the commish) use it because of the FABB functions.

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Well, that's the thing, it's got a lot more functionality than those 2 sites. Someone is going to best them before long, though.

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Insein said:

A live update for gamedays would be nice. Having a stock refresh is primitive.

A first party phone app would be nice too. The third party ones try but are inaccurate a lot. I've had null playing in my lineup many times on the phone.

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Shutout said:

Insein said:

A live update for gamedays would be nice. Having a stock refresh is primitive.

A first party phone app would be nice too. The third party ones try but are inaccurate a lot. I've had null playing in my lineup many times on the phone.

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I don't think it could remain stable. It would literally be in constant refresh mode during the early games.

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Art_VanDalay said:

Please Please Please bring up to them to improve their Salary Cap and Contract Player features! I have been begging them for years to upgrade this part of their site but falls on deaf ears annually. We have an Auction league and track salary caps per team because, within limits, teams can trade cap money similar to trading draft picks in a straight draft league. I have been tallying the caps for each team as the commish for 19+ years and there has to be a better way to automatically track this on the site if they would just give it some attention. Thanks guys!

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Greg Russell said:

Art_VanDalay said:

Please Please Please bring up to them to improve their Salary Cap and Contract Player features! I have been begging them for years to upgrade this part of their site but falls on deaf ears annually. We have an Auction league and track salary caps per team because, within limits, teams can trade cap money similar to trading draft picks in a straight draft league. I have been tallying the caps for each team as the commish for 19+ years and there has to be a better way to automatically track this on the site if they would just give it some attention. Thanks guys!

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Can you clarify a bit here? Not sure but at first read it sounds like you might be making things unnecessarily painful on yourself and not using some of the functionality that already is there.

Is there a hard cap that you can't go over at any point including during the season, players retain a salary all year long regardless of team they are on (or perhaps have it reset from waivers, but they have a salary either way). And teams can trade that part of their cap? And if they do, are they only trading this or next year's worth or does it stay that way forever until there is another trade that changes it?

Or is it a soft cap that only applies at the time of the auction and once the auction finishes there essentially is no salary cap that plays any role until the next auction? And if so are players keepable at their previous salary or their previous salary plus some modifier?

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Art_VanDalay said:

Greg Russell said:

Art_VanDalay said:

Please Please Please bring up to them to improve their Salary Cap and Contract Player features! I have been begging them for years to upgrade this part of their site but falls on deaf ears annually. We have an Auction league and track salary caps per team because, within limits, teams can trade cap money similar to trading draft picks in a straight draft league. I have been tallying the caps for each team as the commish for 19+ years and there has to be a better way to automatically track this on the site if they would just give it some attention. Thanks guys!

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Can you clarify a bit here? Not sure but at first read it sounds like you might be making things unnecessarily painful on yourself and not using some of the functionality that already is there.

Is there a hard cap that you can't go over at any point including during the season, players retain a salary all year long regardless of team they are on (or perhaps have it reset from waivers, but they have a salary either way). And teams can trade that part of their cap? And if they do, are they only trading this or next year's worth or does it stay that way forever until there is another trade that changes it?

Or is it a soft cap that only applies at the time of the auction and once the auction finishes there essentially is no salary cap that plays any role until the next auction? And if so are players keepable at their previous salary or their previous salary plus some modifier?

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Thanks for the reply Greg. I am intimately familiar with MFL salary cap options currently. Here is what our league does so you can understand it and then let me know if you have any ideas. So we have 14 teams in an Auction league where each year every team starts out with $500 cap dollars. For example, when we finished our draft this year in August, for 2014 (the following season), teams can include cap money in their trades with other teams but within limits (cannot fall below $350 or over $700 ever). Thus it is a hard cap. We currently set the site to $700 throughout the year so teams cannot have a total roster that exceeds that cap number.

Currently I track all the back and forth of salary cap trades manually using a spreadsheet that we post on our site. My request is and has always been, if there were a way to set a starting cap for each team (there is already this feature I am aware) AND then somehow allocate for cap dollars to be part of any trades, which can then be tallied as a "Net Cap" number say on the Rosters page where most of the salary cap info is, that would solve my problems immensely! It is basic math and I don't think would be hard to tweak given the current features. Let me know if that is clearer and what ideas you may have. Thanks!

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Greg Russell said:

Art_VanDalay said:

Greg Russell said:

Art_VanDalay said:

Please Please Please bring up to them to improve their Salary Cap and Contract Player features! I have been begging them for years to upgrade this part of their site but falls on deaf ears annually. We have an Auction league and track salary caps per team because, within limits, teams can trade cap money similar to trading draft picks in a straight draft league. I have been tallying the caps for each team as the commish for 19+ years and there has to be a better way to automatically track this on the site if they would just give it some attention. Thanks guys!

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Can you clarify a bit here? Not sure but at first read it sounds like you might be making things unnecessarily painful on yourself and not using some of the functionality that already is there.

Is there a hard cap that you can't go over at any point including during the season, players retain a salary all year long regardless of team they are on (or perhaps have it reset from waivers, but they have a salary either way). And teams can trade that part of their cap? And if they do, are they only trading this or next year's worth or does it stay that way forever until there is another trade that changes it?

Or is it a soft cap that only applies at the time of the auction and once the auction finishes there essentially is no salary cap that plays any role until the next auction? And if so are players keepable at their previous salary or their previous salary plus some modifier?

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Thanks for the reply Greg. I am intimately familiar with MFL salary cap options currently. Here is what our league does so you can understand it and then let me know if you have any ideas. So we have 14 teams in an Auction league where each year every team starts out with $500 cap dollars. For example, when we finished our draft this year in August, for 2014 (the following season), teams can include cap money in their trades with other teams but within limits (cannot fall below $350 or over $700 ever). Thus it is a hard cap. We currently set the site to $700 throughout the year so teams cannot have a total roster that exceeds that cap number.

Currently I track all the back and forth of salary cap trades manually using a spreadsheet that we post on our site. My request is and has always been, if there were a way to set a starting cap for each team (there is already this feature I am aware) AND then somehow allocate for cap dollars to be part of any trades, which can then be tallied as a "Net Cap" number say on the Rosters page where most of the salary cap info is, that would solve my problems immensely! It is basic math and I don't think would be hard to tweak given the current features. Let me know if that is clearer and what ideas you may have. Thanks!

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Yes, the part I was thinking of that you aren't using that would at least partially simplify things is using the individual cap number for each team.

You would still have to manually announce a trade includes a cap amount, and you would have to manually go to the Commish functions and change those two team's cap amounts by the amount traded. And you'd probably want to continue to continue to keep a record of what cap dollars changed hands in each trade so you can refer back if needed.

But once those figures are in the individual team cap spot on the website, it would take the burden away of having to manually monitor every transaction for a cap violation. Auctions, blind bidding, and non-cap trades would all have the individual team's current adjusted cap used for transactions. Trades involving exchange of cap space, you might have to make the adjustment before the trade could be accepted, assuming you don't use a commish review already anyway.

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CalBear said:

Shutout said:

Insein said:

A live update for gamedays would be nice. Having a stock refresh is primitive.

A first party phone app would be nice too. The third party ones try but are inaccurate a lot. I've had null playing in my lineup many times on the phone.

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I don't think it could remain stable. It would literally be in constant refresh mode during the early games.

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Every other league hosting site has this. It's not rocket science.

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Agent575 said:

I love MFL. The other services cannot compare. None of the other services give you the freedom to do what MFL allows you to do.

Sure there are things that could be improved and I hope they do so but I think its strange MFL is taking flack anywhere when the other services cannot compete. If you want to pay 3x as much for garbage CBS or if you want to use a site like ESPN which isn't even capable of having a good scoring setup then have at it.

I can understand how the design side of MFL presents difficulties for those not familiar with various things but it is absolutely awesome being able to make our league OUR own league and I for one wouldn't want them to remove that ability to accomodate folks that want something as wretched what RTS or ESPN offers in terms of appearance. MFL requires X amount of time to make it the way you want it. If you don't have the time or don't feel like putting any time into your league then you should use one of the services that gives you zero options but does the work for you.

Each year I see updates and improvements that MFL does make and I appreciate it. Hopefully they continue to do so and hopefully they get to a few of the bigger ones that have been requested enough to make sense for them to address.

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Mister CIA said:

Agent575 said:

I love MFL. The other services cannot compare. None of the other services give you the freedom to do what MFL allows you to do.

Sure there are things that could be improved and I hope they do so but I think its strange MFL is taking flack anywhere when the other services cannot compete. If you want to pay 3x as much for garbage CBS or if you want to use a site like ESPN which isn't even capable of having a good scoring setup then have at it.

I can understand how the design side of MFL presents difficulties for those not familiar with various things but it is absolutely awesome being able to make our league OUR own league and I for one wouldn't want them to remove that ability to accomodate folks that want something as wretched what RTS or ESPN offers in terms of appearance. MFL requires X amount of time to make it the way you want it. If you don't have the time or don't feel like putting any time into your league then you should use one of the services that gives you zero options but does the work for you.

Each year I see updates and improvements that MFL does make and I appreciate it. Hopefully they continue to do so and hopefully they get to a few of the bigger ones that have been requested enough to make sense for them to address.

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Show of hands here. Who wants to put time into rearranging rectangles on web page?

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Mister CIA said:

Agent575 said:

I love MFL. The other services cannot compare. None of the other services give you the freedom to do what MFL allows you to do.

Sure there are things that could be improved and I hope they do so but I think its strange MFL is taking flack anywhere when the other services cannot compete. If you want to pay 3x as much for garbage CBS or if you want to use a site like ESPN which isn't even capable of having a good scoring setup then have at it.

I can understand how the design side of MFL presents difficulties for those not familiar with various things but it is absolutely awesome being able to make our league OUR own league and I for one wouldn't want them to remove that ability to accomodate folks that want something as wretched what RTS or ESPN offers in terms of appearance. MFL requires X amount of time to make it the way you want it. If you don't have the time or don't feel like putting any time into your league then you should use one of the services that gives you zero options but does the work for you.

Each year I see updates and improvements that MFL does make and I appreciate it. Hopefully they continue to do so and hopefully they get to a few of the bigger ones that have been requested enough to make sense for them to address.

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Show of hands here. Who wants to put time into rearranging rectangles on web page?

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Shawn said:

All I want is to be able to have a flex IDP slot. It shouldn't be that hard. (Or if it's possible already my commish is just being lazy) we voted it in last year but couldn't make it happen.

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Phenix said:

Does anyone else not have the playoff bracket set? I'm in a bunch of leagues on MFL and none of the brackets are set, is it a commish setting?

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ItsOnlytheRiver said:

Phenix said:

Does anyone else not have the playoff bracket set? I'm in a bunch of leagues on MFL and none of the brackets are set, is it a commish setting?

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As a commish I always set it up. If there's a way to have it automatically set I don't know what it is.

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Insein said:

ItsOnlytheRiver said:

Phenix said:

Does anyone else not have the playoff bracket set? I'm in a bunch of leagues on MFL and none of the brackets are set, is it a commish setting?

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As a commish I always set it up. If there's a way to have it automatically set I don't know what it is.

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Just doing this for the first time this year. What a mess. This is an area that needs dire improvement. Nothing is intuitive. I basically made a playoff schedule by trial and error having 10 different brackets made to account for teams not in the playoffs and those that will be eliminated so they can continue to play a game and get points.

It doesn't give the option for "highest remaining seed".

It doesn't seem to update right away for the "winner of game #1". I'll wait till the end of today to see if that happens.

When I have to manually change the teams that won into the playoff slot, it makes the bracket look like crap. No point in even showing it.

Since the schedule page stops showing matchups at week 13, I have no idea if this is recording the wins and losses any where. Standings page shows it is not. ETA: Now I see I have to update the schedule page AND the playoff bracket. That is ridiculous.

I feel like I have to be doing this wrong because it is so asinine.

ETA: Got it to look better but totally not an intuitive process. A lot of trial and error.

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KCitons said:

I know this is a little off the topic of MFL.

But, would it be possible to do an open source fantasy site? There seems to be no shortage of fantasy people that know how to fix these problems. Maybe do something where leagues pay a nominal fee to keep the site up and running.

hen pay for the features that you need.

If you want something new, that is not available, you post in a message board the feature you want added. If other leagues would like this feature, they all throw a few bucks into the pot and someone that knows how to program could take on the project and take the money. This feature is then a permanent part of the site going forward.

Everyone wins.

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LAUNCH said:

Here is the site that can get you to get more out of your MFL site. http://www.habman.com/mfl/ Here is an example of the "live" scoreboard. http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2013/home/46614?MODULE=MESSAGE17 Granted it is not nearly as nice as any major service apps, but it is better than the default. Most of these scripts are pretty much cut and paste.

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Greg Russell said:

Insein said:

ItsOnlytheRiver said:

Phenix said:

Does anyone else not have the playoff bracket set? I'm in a bunch of leagues on MFL and none of the brackets are set, is it a commish setting?

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As a commish I always set it up. If there's a way to have it automatically set I don't know what it is.

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Just doing this for the first time this year. What a mess. This is an area that needs dire improvement. Nothing is intuitive. I basically made a playoff schedule by trial and error having 10 different brackets made to account for teams not in the playoffs and those that will be eliminated so they can continue to play a game and get points.

It doesn't give the option for "highest remaining seed".

It doesn't seem to update right away for the "winner of game #1". I'll wait till the end of today to see if that happens.

When I have to manually change the teams that won into the playoff slot, it makes the bracket look like crap. No point in even showing it.

Since the schedule page stops showing matchups at week 13, I have no idea if this is recording the wins and losses any where. Standings page shows it is not. ETA: Now I see I have to update the schedule page AND the playoff bracket. That is ridiculous.

I feel like I have to be doing this wrong because it is so asinine.

ETA: Got it to look better but totally not an intuitive process. A lot of trial and error.

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Playoff games do not get added onto regular season records in any sport I've ever heard of. Changing it to work the way you are wanting would be pretty un-intuitive, I think.

The only issues I've had with the playoff brackets is the lack of "highest remaining seed" that you mention, and not being able to seed a consolation bracket automatically where I want all 6 slots using the wildcard tiebreakers and ignoring division winners.

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shadyridr said:

No clue why I have to go in and set my playoff matchups twice. No "Highest Remaining Seed" option makes no sense.

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