Da Guru
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Anyone own a 4K Television (2 Viewers)
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Hawks64
Footballguy
I'd just go to Costco and listen to what they have. At mine all of the soundbars have some sort of demo for them. Pick what sounds best to you.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Actually the Yamaha sounded great, and that was in a loud warehouse with high ceilings. In my mind the Bose name kept me thinking it was better but it did not sound better.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Bose is definitely the king of marketing fluff. Yamaha has historically done some amazing things with sound shaping and direction for virtual surround that is rather mind blowing. Not sure if that has the ability to add a sub but I'd look into it.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Says 2 built in subs. Yamaha ATS-1080 35" 2.1 Channel Soundbar with Dual Built-In Subwoofers
Hawks64
Footballguy
Those 3" built in subs aren't really going to do much and will get overwhelmed easily IMO. It has an output for a sub so I'd probably see how it sounds and you could always add one down the road if you feel like the low end is lacking.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Not a bad way to self quarantine in front of this monster. 
Otis
Footballguy
A lot of discussion in here about what I should do with the dark wood paneling in our den. Went forward with the paint job. Came out great. They still have to finish installing the new door on the fireplace and birch (white) log set, but here’s a current before and after:
https://imgur.com/a/7CEZkWX
offdee
Footballguy
oh yeah, looks nice! Good job on going with a more creamy white and not stark white. Tile and handles look great too. Now when you want a bigger TV you can still do what I suggested earlier with a mount that pulls out and you can just push it back flush with the white woodwork behind it. Copying and pasting that below....Otis said:
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Otis, I've probably been thinking about this way more than I should be. If I was you, and the wife said need to keep the wood panels, what I would do is build out your present niche to be inset only about 3-4 inches (with your plug and HDMI/surround sound cord tunnels in it).
Then I would buy whatever the biggest size TV you can have over that mantel. If torn between two sets, then get the one that has the slimmer profile. Don't worry about the present inset niche square size.
Then I would get one of those pull out and swivel TV mounts (that works with the size of your new TV) and mount it to this new inset. You can get a nice one for cheap on Amazon (I spent $50 for this kind of mount for my 75"). Then when you push the TV all the way back (when not in use) it will sit flush over the top of the wood paneling and look like it's mounted right to it.
This would be the best of all worlds. You keep all the wood paneling, but you also get a big TV that will ultimately cover up majority of that wood paneling when pushed up against it. But when pull the TV out a bit or swivel, you'll still see the wood panels behind it giving it a clean custom look.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
So why the hell are 4K BluRay players so friggin expensive. I bought one like 4 years ago and the prices have not dropped since. The one I have is whining something fierce. I figured I would grab another one for $80 after paying $250 for it 4 years ago. Nope. Still $250 and up. What gives?
Hawks64
Footballguy
Still not high enough demand would be my guess, and physical discs aren't in high demand either. With all the streaming content at 4k/HDR/DV not much need.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Yeah, part of me wants to skip it, but I have about 20 4K movies and when I tried to watch all 21 Marvel movies with the kids on Disney +, I found that they were missing a few. And when I bought those on Disk to complete the run, I bought 4K.
The other thing here, the disk players can't be that much different than a 4K or even a a regular DVD player. There is no reason these are that expensive.
Bengalsfan
Footballguy
75 inch Samsung Q90R on sale at Best But for $2899...$1100 off.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-led-q90-series-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/6331771.p?skuId=6331771
still so much for a TV...but so tempted to try to make this happen at that price.
ugh! The struggle.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-led-q90-series-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/6331771.p?skuId=6331771
still so much for a TV...but so tempted to try to make this happen at that price.
ugh! The struggle.
I'm buying a 75 inch soon. Think I've narrowed down to 3. Would love oled but 77inch are way too much $ for me and 65 inch likely not big enough for my room.
So I'm looking at sony x900h $2800.
Hisense h8g $1800 (we call it a q8g)
Lg un8570 $2000
These are canadian prices, btw.
Wish there were reviews of the lg. It has native 120hz which should make it perfect for me as my biggest requirement is good refresh rate fo my hockey watching pleasure.
Rtings gives nice review of the hisense even though its only native 60hz so I was leaning towards it until the lg price dropped below 2k.
Anyone have the lg?
I'm almost positive the sony will be wonderful but for about 800 less I think I'll be satisfied with the lg until the oleds drop. And if anyone has anything on the hisense I'd be happy to hear your experience.
Very tough to find a vizio or TCL 8 series up here. Samsung q70t is a bit more than the x900h so I haven't considered any Samsung too seriously.
So I'm looking at sony x900h $2800.
Hisense h8g $1800 (we call it a q8g)
Lg un8570 $2000
These are canadian prices, btw.
Wish there were reviews of the lg. It has native 120hz which should make it perfect for me as my biggest requirement is good refresh rate fo my hockey watching pleasure.
Rtings gives nice review of the hisense even though its only native 60hz so I was leaning towards it until the lg price dropped below 2k.
Anyone have the lg?
I'm almost positive the sony will be wonderful but for about 800 less I think I'll be satisfied with the lg until the oleds drop. And if anyone has anything on the hisense I'd be happy to hear your experience.
Very tough to find a vizio or TCL 8 series up here. Samsung q70t is a bit more than the x900h so I haven't considered any Samsung too seriously.
Finally decided to replace my 10 year old 46" Panasonic plasma. Bought the 49" LG 8600 (2019 version).
Tried it for about a week and the blacks on the ISP panel were not very good. Saw that Microcenter had refurbished LG 55" C9's for $999.
Picture is amazing and is noticeably better than my 60" ST60 in the basement. Just having issues getting the sound from my Yamaha soundbar correct.
Tried it for about a week and the blacks on the ISP panel were not very good. Saw that Microcenter had refurbished LG 55" C9's for $999.
Picture is amazing and is noticeably better than my 60" ST60 in the basement. Just having issues getting the sound from my Yamaha soundbar correct.
LG's have ISP panels. Great viewing angles but below average black levels.
I have heard nothing but great things about the H8G.
Thanks. Yes. I've read great reviews just slightly concerned about the refresh rate and sports - particularly hockey. But since its hard to get many details on the lg I think Ill go with the hisense. Worst comes to worst I can exchange it.
Wow. i had read on Rtings that it was very good but didnt think it would be that good for a 60Hz TV. It does sound like great value for the money. Thanks for the feedback.
BIg in China (shocking, I know!)
Been around for a while. I'd equate them to TCL I guess only they've been around for a while? Think I read they are the largest selling TV in china.
Hisense manufactures all TVs bearing the Sharp brand name in the U.S. The license for Hisense to use the Sharp brand name has a term of five years from 2015 with an option to extend.
They're in the bargain grouping of tvs. They make other things like refrigerators (I know because I have one)
Hawks64
Footballguy
Sony is the best of the bunch but on a best performance for the dollar it's the Hisense. Stay away from LG unless it's their OLED IMO.Wow. i had read on Rtings that it was very good but didnt think it would be that good for a 60Hz TV. It does sound like great value for the money. Thanks for the feedback.
I feel like Sony and Samsung are getting the "Bose" benefit of the doubt. They all are getting by on name alone.
A lot of the other companies have caught up. TCL and Hisense are great examples.
For 2020 it looks like Samsung really pooped the bed. Specs have been downgraded to comparative 2019 models. People are catching on.
Hawks64
Footballguy
That Sony is a better TV and some Samsung models are good (Q70 and up) and some aren't. I don't go based on brands per se but on the actual models and the performance.
I own a TCL because it's the best value for the dollar in the 75" for me, and have recommended it many times. And when the tech changes again in the next 3 or 4 years I don't care to much since I'm not dropping 2-3k+ so I'll upgrade to the next one.
Thanks. I had watched that review.
I ended up ordering the Hisense. It's about $900 cheaper here before tax. (13% in Canada) so a pretty huge difference. $1798 vs $2698. This way I won't feel bad if the oLED drop in price in 5 years and I could maybe get a 75+ OLEd to replace it. If I even need to. I'll use the money to buy a nice shiny new receiver.
Looking forward to the hockey playoffs now!
TheFanatic
Footballguy
So I pulled the trigger on the TCL 6 series 75 inch right before the lock down. That was money well spent. I'm wanting to upgrade the TV in family room to a 65. I checked the TCL in a 65 (can't put a 75 up there), and see the price has gone up since I was considering the back in late Feb. What gives there? And is there a 2020 iteration of the TCL 6 that I should be looking at?
Mile High
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
I ended up grabbing a 55" LG C9 refurb from Microcenter for $999 for my front room. Doesn't handle some older TV content as well as I would expect. But movies and 4k......Wow.
Definitely an upgrade over the ST60 I have in my basement, but I am in no hurry to replace it. ST60 still holds it's own.
Definitely an upgrade over the ST60 I have in my basement, but I am in no hurry to replace it. ST60 still holds it's own.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Would guess that's part of what it was but it could be the new models...not sure when they are being released though.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
And where did the TCL 5 series come from? When I was looking at these last year and into early 2020 there were 4 series and 6. I think the 5 doesn't have the quantum dot technology.
So is there another bargain TV that has an amazing screen I should know about? See, once it gets cold, the wife and I enjoy the hell out of our fireplace up in the fam room. I can't have that craptastic TV up there if I'm spending all that time up there.
So is there another bargain TV that has an amazing screen I should know about? See, once it gets cold, the wife and I enjoy the hell out of our fireplace up in the fam room. I can't have that craptastic TV up there if I'm spending all that time up there.
Hawks64
Footballguy
The 5 series was a 2019 release IIRC. Honestly, the only series I'd look at is the 6 or 8. And the other brand like TCL is Hisense but I don't think we can get those in the states.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
The 8 series is $1500 for the 65. And if it is appreciably better than the 75 inch 6 in the basement, then I'll start looking side eye at the basement TV and start getting the itch for the 8 down here or even the LG OLED.
I think I'll just pay the $800 and get the 65 inch 6 series.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Probably a good choice, I wouldn't look at the 8 yet since it's still 1st gen anyway.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Hawks64
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Best Buy and Wal Mart carry them too. Evidently Hisense has a couple models that have the same Quantum Dot technology as the Samsung QLED and the TCL. The 65 is the same $799 as the TCL. Is the remote better? That might tip me to the hisense.
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Hawks64
Footballguy
CR69
Footballguy
Hawks64
Footballguy
Probably a better deal from Hisense?
ETA And they only had TCL sporadically in store, wonder if that played into it? I'll check and see if they have Hisense at my Costco next week.
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CR69
Footballguy
I haven’t paid attention in store but I’ve been trying to decide which 65” to buy and noticed they didn’t have any TCL models online anymore.
Looking to spend $1,000-1,200 on a new TV but it’s just so damn hard to pick one these days lol.
