ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Dr Bremel posted an article during the season about the injury.
The doctor doing his surgery has done the same surgery on others. every one of the athletes returned to their previous level of play with no future issues.
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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (3 Viewers)
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The doctor doing his surgery has done the same surgery on others. every one of the athletes returned to their previous level of play with no future issues.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Cutler
1.09
for
1.04
1.09
for
1.04
Bamac
Footballguy
On "pure value", I'd take the 1.04. But if I had question marks at QB, I could easily see paying that price for Cutler.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think the 1.04 is a big win, personally. I expect a big gap between 1.04 and 1.09. 1.04 will be one of the top 2 WRs, or a top 2 RB. 1.09 will be a second tier WR or one of the TEs.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Agreed and if you're starting Cutler at QB you are at a disadvantage over most of the other teams anyway.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Bamac
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
In a 12 team league - my statement would still be applicable then (even if you scrap those two games). I'm not saying that Cutler is a terrible option for a fantasy starting QB, just that he doesn't offer much worth paying a premium for. Roethlisberger, Dalton, Eli, Romo, etc. all would put you in the same boat and could probably come at a cheaper price than what was paid here.
It wasn't a terrible deal - for all we know the 1.09 will yield a better player than the 1.04 when all is said and done - but don't like the value..
Bamac
Footballguy
I don't either. And (assuming 12 teams), it's not a move I would make in January. But July, maybe.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah, that cutler deal was bad. In most leagues he was in waivers every week except when someone needed a bye week fill in.
Don't like it at all.
Don't like it at all.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
never really understood why people trade for "need" in January.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Shoulda specified most of MY leagues, mostly 20 man rosters.
Bigger leagues no, not on waivers.
But unless this is a 16 team league or a two qb league, I don't like it at all.
Evil G
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium....First trades of the off-season, not involved.
Team A gives Jordy Nelson
Team B gives 1.11, 1.12, DMC, Fred Davis <_<
Later,
Team A gives 1.12, Latavius Murray
Team C gives Mike Wallace and Rod Streeter
Later,
Team A (has Knowshon) gives 1.01, 1.11 and 2.04
Team D gives Montee Ball, 1.06, 1.08
Team A is a very active trader. On the surface, not sure how he made out. In a SuperFlex, I think there will some interesting QBs at 1.06
Team A gives Jordy Nelson
Team B gives 1.11, 1.12, DMC, Fred Davis <_<
Later,
Team A gives 1.12, Latavius Murray
Team C gives Mike Wallace and Rod Streeter
Later,
Team A (has Knowshon) gives 1.01, 1.11 and 2.04
Team D gives Montee Ball, 1.06, 1.08
Team A is a very active trader. On the surface, not sure how he made out. In a SuperFlex, I think there will some interesting QBs at 1.06
14 Team, 1 PPR, 1 QB Superflex: 1 QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/1 DEF/1 K/ 1 Superflex/1 Flex RB/WR/TE
My roster (finished 3rd this season):
Stafford/Ryan
Morris/Gore/McFadden/Ray Rice/B. Pierce
Marshall/Crabtree/A.Brown/Nelson/Jennings/Blackmon
Olsen/Myers/L. Willson/T. Wright
Tucker
Seahawks
Gave:
Alfred Morris
Jordy Nelson
Greg Olsen
Pick 48 in 2014 (there are compensatory picks so easier to just give pick number)
Received
Rob Gronkowski
Victor Cruz
Steven Jackson
Pick 11 in 2014
Now have pick 11, 12, 21 and 39 in the upcoming rookie draft. I think it's a pretty even trade, I asked in assistant coach (it's changed slightly since) and got very mixed opinions as to which side people preferred!
My roster (finished 3rd this season):
Stafford/Ryan
Morris/Gore/McFadden/Ray Rice/B. Pierce
Marshall/Crabtree/A.Brown/Nelson/Jennings/Blackmon
Olsen/Myers/L. Willson/T. Wright
Tucker
Seahawks
Gave:
Alfred Morris
Jordy Nelson
Greg Olsen
Pick 48 in 2014 (there are compensatory picks so easier to just give pick number)
Received
Rob Gronkowski
Victor Cruz
Steven Jackson
Pick 11 in 2014
Now have pick 11, 12, 21 and 39 in the upcoming rookie draft. I think it's a pretty even trade, I asked in assistant coach (it's changed slightly since) and got very mixed opinions as to which side people preferred!
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I guess it helps your team (maybe, I think Dalton sucks and this sort of reminds me of when Sanchez scored top 10 a few years ago), but I think you gave up a lot more value and should have gotten more in return.
Honestly, I am not even convinced Dalton is their QB in two years. However, he sure does have weapons to throw to with Green, Jones, Eifert, and Bernard.
Chad Parsons
Moderator
Chad Parsons
Moderator
steelcityman
Footballguy
Sent Cameron and pick 1.1
Got Gio Bernard, Toliolo and pick 1.10
What do you all think?
As for the post above mine, as far as Murray goes in OAK, does he have a decent shot to become their RB1? I have him on IR for now, wont cut him, but am curious as to what OAK might do with their RBs.
Got Gio Bernard, Toliolo and pick 1.10
What do you all think?
As for the post above mine, as far as Murray goes in OAK, does he have a decent shot to become their RB1? I have him on IR for now, wont cut him, but am curious as to what OAK might do with their RBs.
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Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
1.03
For
1.08
1.12
For
1.08
1.12
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Last year I would have loved the side getting two picks. This year I prefer pick 3, but still a decent deal for both sides.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
14 team PPR. Devy league. 1.5 PPR for TE's.
Gave:
Da'Rick Rogers
Got:
Dwayne Allen
Stedman Bailey
Gave:
Da'Rick Rogers
Got:
Dwayne Allen
Stedman Bailey
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Given the format I'd take Allen pretty easily. A more neutral format I'd probably still prefer the Allen side.ConnSKINS26 said:
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Interesting. I figured opinions would be spilt pretty evenly depending on how high everyone was or wasn't on Rogers.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Rogers is more likely a wr2, but Bailey could also be a wr2 in ppr. I think he's a good target this off season. Allen is another guy I'll be looking to pick up where cheapish.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Its close but I'd take your side. Even more so if one of the top rookie tight ends fall to you, which they should.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I like it for you. Allen should be able to bounce back coming off his injury. Even though Fleener is still there, it's not like Fleener really ran away with the TE job there in Indy this season. Allen is definitely the more talented guy. To me, Bailey and Rogers are about even. Both have WR2 potential, but we just haven't really seen enough of either so far to say for sure. Definitely a good move for you.ConnSKINS26 said:
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
16 team, IDP,
three trades all involving different owners:
Fred Jackson/2014 2.03/2014 5.13
for
Tavon Austin
1.2/Ginn Jr
For
1.1
* I got the 1.1. Minor trade but I wanted to lock up the top option.
2014 3rd
For
Brad Jones
three trades all involving different owners:
Fred Jackson/2014 2.03/2014 5.13
for
Tavon Austin
1.2/Ginn Jr
For
1.1
* I got the 1.1. Minor trade but I wanted to lock up the top option.
2014 3rd
For
Brad Jones
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Ginn should be on everyone's roster bubble. I'm not saying he's worthless - but he's not worth much at all and is a fringe dynasty asset. Who would make him the focal point of any trade, even a minor move down?
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
The other guy built his roster around IDP and is stacked there but very weak on IOP. Had Decker, Marlon Brown and Mike Williams at WR and not much at RB. I can see why he did it. I started Ginn many times in this league. Very deep
Allen/Bailey side for meConnSKINS26 said:
I think Rogers is a guy that definitely has the opportunity and physical makeup to be a #1WR. Players don't go undrafted for no reason and then get cut if they are vastly more talented than others.
I can see why someone might want to take a chance on Rogers but Allen is a better player now and having Bailey to help offset the WR loss this deal was easy to make
Still how much will Ginn really help?
Think the 1.01 should always get you more that a return guy that is a situational deep threat
Bamac
Footballguy
Martin + Patterson, easily.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
12 team FFPC
Doug martin
for
pick 2
a 2015 1st (PROBABLY a non playoff team)
Doug martin
for
pick 2
a 2015 1st (PROBABLY a non playoff team)
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Watkins, Lee, Evans, maybe the best Rb prospect.
I see the top as better this year than last year.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If he can use Ginn to move up to pick #1 I might take the picks side
But I think I agree in most cases here I would roll with Martin and hope for the best. Only problem in this particular case is that even if martin plays well the guy who just got him probably still misses the playoffs.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Philip Rivers
5th rounder
for
Russel Wilson
I cant see too many taking the Rivers side here.
5th rounder
for
Russel Wilson
I cant see too many taking the Rivers side here.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Jesus. In my devy league, 5th rounders are actually the devy picks, and I still probably wouldn't advise this. That's rough.
Gandalf
Footballguy
Just happened in our salary cap league
Side A: Keenan Allen $3, Knile Davis $1 and Steve Smith $13
Side B: Peyton Manning $16, Cordarelle Patterson $2 and the equivalent of a late first/early second round rookie pick
The team getting side A has Jamaal Charles and needed a WR upgrade. He also has a cheap Andrew Luck.
Side A: Keenan Allen $3, Knile Davis $1 and Steve Smith $13
Side B: Peyton Manning $16, Cordarelle Patterson $2 and the equivalent of a late first/early second round rookie pick
The team getting side A has Jamaal Charles and needed a WR upgrade. He also has a cheap Andrew Luck.
