Grahamburn
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Pick up Peyton Barber.
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RB Doug Martin, Free Agent (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
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The Frankman
Footballguy
He's done in Tampa Bay, barring massive RB injuries I can't see him back with the team in 2018.
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Cowboysfan8
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Inactive
strong
Footballguy
i see a pattern!
- 2012: 1400 rushing yards
- 2013: 400
- 2014: 400
- 2015: 1400
- 2016: 400
- 2017: 400
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Man, how quickly things change. If I were a kid just starting out in football there is no way I would play RB. Too volatile, too short lived.
The Captain
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Man was I happy I drafted him this yr after watching his first game back.
It was all downhill from there
It was all downhill from there
mozzy84
Footballguy
Seriously brings back nightmares of last years championship game. I get up set my lineup, leave for hockey and come to find out hours later he get declared inactive for breaking team rules. I of course lose by 4 points. (Thankfully I was never going to start him this year) I’m cutting his ### this offseason, I hate this dude.Cowboysfan8 said:
strong
Footballguy
Gally said:
i would probably be selling for anything i could get at this point.
he might be a talent upgrade for a handful of teams, but i have a hard time seeing any team bringing him in to start at this point.
and given how much of an unreliable headache he's been for the bucs for 6 seasons, i also don't see a team bringing him in to be the vet backup to a young talented but somewhat unproven runner (like in miami).
i see him landing in a similar situation to adrian peterson last year: an extra cog in a clogged backfield on a team with some cap space to burn.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
It really has been a long strange trip this year.Man was I happy I drafted him this yr after watching his first game back.
It was all downhill from there
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wormburner
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Chaka
Footballguy
I thought I had a steal when I drafted him in the 7th round, shoulda traded him after that first game.Man was I happy I drafted him this yr after watching his first game back.
It was all downhill from there
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He's outside of the top 40 for me for sure. I'm not convinced anyone signs him to fill a significant role and it wouldn't be shocking if he no one signs at all or at least until late in the summer if/when injuries happen. I own him in one league and will hold and hope I'm wrong.
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Dr. Octopus
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He was suspended for PEDs (although he also went to rehab for some reason), so maybe he couldn't perform well without them?
Maybe he does need the PEDs but being away from the team for 3 weeks would not have anything to do with that. Licht is acting like he fell apart those 3 weeks away from the team, that really makes no sense on the surface. Maybe he has personal problems that cropped up during those 3 weeks he was away from the team but again on the surface to say someone that was only away from the team for 3 weeks, who was perfectly healthy and able to workout, was just not the same the rest of the season does not compute.
mozzy84
Footballguy
We cut down to 19 players in the summer, I am assuming he will be getting the axe from my team and I'm totally fine with that. I don't have much hope he will sign and do anything significant with another team, and I highly doubt anyone will give me anything even mildly worthwhile for him.
The Raiders have agreed to terms with former Bucs RB Doug Martin, source said. Jon Gruden locks in running back depth and Martin gets a second chance.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974349894117883904
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974349894117883904
NeverEnough
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Lynch gone?
the lone star
Footballguy
I like Jalen Richard more than him, but a change of scenery would be nice.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I've seen people here and other places compare Muscle Hamster to the two mighty mights. They may have similar height and skill sets, but Martin has 15-20 lbs on Richard and Washington. When at his best, he's notably more powerful, and that could be his edge in the roster battle.
FreeBaGeL
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Nobody sounds better in May/June than the Hamster. I remember last year's offseason reports that made Adam Gase sound like a pessimist by comparison.
stuckinthemuck
Footballguy
I'm sticking with Beast Mode. Via Warren Sharp:
Out of 40 RBs with 200+ carries the last 2 years, Doug Martin ranked:
Out of 40 RBs with 200+ carries the last 2 years, Doug Martin ranked:
- 40th in success rate (38%)
- 40th in YPC (2.9)
- 40th in percentage of runs that gained 3 or fewer yards (65%)
- 40th in percentage of runs that gained 5+ yards (25%)
Stompin' Tom Connors
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Unless Martin shines so often and consistently, I see his role as backup in the Raiders short term personnel move to feature a between-the-tackles early down runner in their offense.
We know Gruden is building the offense around a strong run game, utilizing the team's strength up front on the line and a guy with Lynch's proven capabilities. Bringing on Kevin Smith from Dallas -- a purer FB as opposed to the more pass-catching FB they had in Olawale -- shows Gruden committing to a scheme he believes will benefit the offense he is installing. Set up the pass through the run, leverage PA, etc.
This is both an offensive philosophy (with so many teams set up to defend spread offenses with lighter, faster, linemen and linebackers, Gruden is zagging by attacking modern WC-based offenses at the point of their weakness), and leveraging the talent they have on the roster right now.
Martin helps in both cases. We have another back who can fill the role of a N/S runner that all other backs not named Lynch haven't been able to fill. We saw Lynch pull himself out in situations last year, and having another guy in rotation in this model will help keep Lynch fresh and build on last year's numbers. If Lynch gets injured, we have a ready substitute with similar skillsets we did not have before.
Both guys are not long-term solutions -- I believe Gruden will look for similar thumpers in next year's draft. But both can contribute right now.
I foresee Lynch still getting the majority of carries in 1st and 2nd down situations, with Martin spelling him through the game. If for whatever reason Martin completely outshines Lynch, well, that's a first class problem to have.
The fantasy impact may actually be a slight decrease in Lynch's production this year, but I think Lynch will still hold his value at his current ADP, especially in non-PPR leagues that lean towards TDs.
We know Gruden is building the offense around a strong run game, utilizing the team's strength up front on the line and a guy with Lynch's proven capabilities. Bringing on Kevin Smith from Dallas -- a purer FB as opposed to the more pass-catching FB they had in Olawale -- shows Gruden committing to a scheme he believes will benefit the offense he is installing. Set up the pass through the run, leverage PA, etc.
This is both an offensive philosophy (with so many teams set up to defend spread offenses with lighter, faster, linemen and linebackers, Gruden is zagging by attacking modern WC-based offenses at the point of their weakness), and leveraging the talent they have on the roster right now.
Martin helps in both cases. We have another back who can fill the role of a N/S runner that all other backs not named Lynch haven't been able to fill. We saw Lynch pull himself out in situations last year, and having another guy in rotation in this model will help keep Lynch fresh and build on last year's numbers. If Lynch gets injured, we have a ready substitute with similar skillsets we did not have before.
Both guys are not long-term solutions -- I believe Gruden will look for similar thumpers in next year's draft. But both can contribute right now.
I foresee Lynch still getting the majority of carries in 1st and 2nd down situations, with Martin spelling him through the game. If for whatever reason Martin completely outshines Lynch, well, that's a first class problem to have.
The fantasy impact may actually be a slight decrease in Lynch's production this year, but I think Lynch will still hold his value at his current ADP, especially in non-PPR leagues that lean towards TDs.
Minimal movement in Yahoo for the Oak RBs. That's when the Shark pool pounces. Martin in standard. Richard in PPR. These two should not be on waivers after Gruden publicly stated they are concerned about Lynch's groin injury. Soft tissue injuries are a major issue for RBs.
