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He will be the guy who catches 100 passes this year.

Lost in the shuffle: $2m of Danny Amendola's $3m base salary became guaranteed yesterday. He does have offsets, but it means he likely stays

If he could stay healthy. But he can't.

A player who gets hurt a lot means does not mean they have no chance to be healthy. He enters this season with the same chances to get hurt as anyone else. Edelman seemed to always get hurt, stays healthy one year and now he is the poster child for health. The short memories in the football world. Amendola is the better player and its not a question. Would of been a waste on Edelman.

Why is Amendola better than Edelman...what has he done to prove that...has he had better #'s than Edelman did last year...has he played a full year like Edelman did last year...does he have Brady's trust like Edelman (check out the targets in the Denver playoff loss)...has he proven to be an excellent punt returner...the Pats may have made their bed by over-paying Amendola last year and he still could blossom but right now he has not shown he is a better player than Edelman or a better fit in the Patriot offense than Edelman is...

Why do people play through injuries if they get no respect for it? What did Edelman do in his 4 years prior to last year, did he have more catches than Amendola? Amendola had more catches by his second year the Edelman had in his career up to last year. Remember the reason Edelman saw the field was because Amendola got hurt and still toughed it out for his team and still played through a major groin injury.

How did Amendola look in game one before he got his injury, like the real deal huh? Had 5 more targets than Edelman and more catches, but hurt his groin that game and people can clearly see the difference. Amendola played three less games than Edelman and put up 3 games of 100 yards or more to Edelmans 4.

Edelman was a product of the position, Amendola has talent. Edelman caught 105 balls and only got 1056 yards, that doesn't scream explosive talent, that screams catches the ball and gets down. Anyone can do that, Amendola if healthy would do better.

We are going to agree to disagree because you have zero respect for Edelman...when Gronk went down he was pretty much their only weapon...defenses knew Brady was going to him and he still produced...if you look at the history of Patriot WRS there are far more busts than success stories...far more...if Brady does not trust you and you don't fit into their system you are DOA...I think there are too many people discounting this fact and due to that are minimizing what Edelman brings to the table...as for Amendola I am definitely willing to cut him some slack...the early-season groin injury seemed to plague his whole season and he could possibly duplicate Edelman's production (although they still probably take a step back on special teams)...yet, until I see him healthy for a full 16 and having Brady's trust (and what else the Pats do at TE and WR) I am nervous about their receiving unit...

I like Edelman, have him on one of my rosters, have Amendola too. I'm just reasonable and understand that a player who catches a lot of passes because of a system does not equal a better player or more talented, explain why Welker didn't have 100 catches with the Broncos? Because he wasn't in the Patriots system.

He had 83 while missing three games...he also played had to share catches with Julius Thomas, Demaryuis Thomas, Eric Decker and Knowshon Moreno...I think he gave Denver exactly what they were looking for...

Thanks for making my point that he wasnt in the same system.

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He will be the guy who catches 100 passes this year.

Lost in the shuffle: $2m of Danny Amendola's $3m base salary became guaranteed yesterday. He does have offsets, but it means he likely stays

If he could stay healthy. But he can't.

A player who gets hurt a lot means does not mean they have no chance to be healthy. He enters this season with the same chances to get hurt as anyone else. Edelman seemed to always get hurt, stays healthy one year and now he is the poster child for health. The short memories in the football world. Amendola is the better player and its not a question. Would of been a waste on Edelman.

Why is Amendola better than Edelman...what has he done to prove that...has he had better #'s than Edelman did last year...has he played a full year like Edelman did last year...does he have Brady's trust like Edelman (check out the targets in the Denver playoff loss)...has he proven to be an excellent punt returner...the Pats may have made their bed by over-paying Amendola last year and he still could blossom but right now he has not shown he is a better player than Edelman or a better fit in the Patriot offense than Edelman is...

Why do people play through injuries if they get no respect for it? What did Edelman do in his 4 years prior to last year, did he have more catches than Amendola? Amendola had more catches by his second year the Edelman had in his career up to last year. Remember the reason Edelman saw the field was because Amendola got hurt and still toughed it out for his team and still played through a major groin injury.

How did Amendola look in game one before he got his injury, like the real deal huh? Had 5 more targets than Edelman and more catches, but hurt his groin that game and people can clearly see the difference. Amendola played three less games than Edelman and put up 3 games of 100 yards or more to Edelmans 4.

Edelman was a product of the position, Amendola has talent. Edelman caught 105 balls and only got 1056 yards, that doesn't scream explosive talent, that screams catches the ball and gets down. Anyone can do that, Amendola if healthy would do better.

We are going to agree to disagree because you have zero respect for Edelman...when Gronk went down he was pretty much their only weapon...defenses knew Brady was going to him and he still produced...if you look at the history of Patriot WRS there are far more busts than success stories...far more...if Brady does not trust you and you don't fit into their system you are DOA...I think there are too many people discounting this fact and due to that are minimizing what Edelman brings to the table...as for Amendola I am definitely willing to cut him some slack...the early-season groin injury seemed to plague his whole season and he could possibly duplicate Edelman's production (although they still probably take a step back on special teams)...yet, until I see him healthy for a full 16 and having Brady's trust (and what else the Pats do at TE and WR) I am nervous about their receiving unit...

I like Edelman, have him on one of my rosters, have Amendola too. I'm just reasonable and understand that a player who catches a lot of passes because of a system does not equal a better player or more talented, explain why Welker didn't have 100 catches with the Broncos? Because he wasn't in the Patriots system.

He had 83 while missing three games...he also played had to share catches with Julius Thomas, Demaryuis Thomas, Eric Decker and Knowshon Moreno...I think he gave Denver exactly what they were looking for...

Thanks for making my point that he wasnt in the same system.

If I had a clue what you meant I would thank you...

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He will be the guy who catches 100 passes this year.

Lost in the shuffle: $2m of Danny Amendola's $3m base salary became guaranteed yesterday. He does have offsets, but it means he likely stays

If he could stay healthy. But he can't.

A player who gets hurt a lot means does not mean they have no chance to be healthy. He enters this season with the same chances to get hurt as anyone else. Edelman seemed to always get hurt, stays healthy one year and now he is the poster child for health. The short memories in the football world. Amendola is the better player and its not a question. Would of been a waste on Edelman.

Why is Amendola better than Edelman...what has he done to prove that...has he had better #'s than Edelman did last year...has he played a full year like Edelman did last year...does he have Brady's trust like Edelman (check out the targets in the Denver playoff loss)...has he proven to be an excellent punt returner...the Pats may have made their bed by over-paying Amendola last year and he still could blossom but right now he has not shown he is a better player than Edelman or a better fit in the Patriot offense than Edelman is...

Why do people play through injuries if they get no respect for it? What did Edelman do in his 4 years prior to last year, did he have more catches than Amendola? Amendola had more catches by his second year the Edelman had in his career up to last year. Remember the reason Edelman saw the field was because Amendola got hurt and still toughed it out for his team and still played through a major groin injury.

How did Amendola look in game one before he got his injury, like the real deal huh? Had 5 more targets than Edelman and more catches, but hurt his groin that game and people can clearly see the difference. Amendola played three less games than Edelman and put up 3 games of 100 yards or more to Edelmans 4.

Edelman was a product of the position, Amendola has talent. Edelman caught 105 balls and only got 1056 yards, that doesn't scream explosive talent, that screams catches the ball and gets down. Anyone can do that, Amendola if healthy would do better.

We are going to agree to disagree because you have zero respect for Edelman...when Gronk went down he was pretty much their only weapon...defenses knew Brady was going to him and he still produced...if you look at the history of Patriot WRS there are far more busts than success stories...far more...if Brady does not trust you and you don't fit into their system you are DOA...I think there are too many people discounting this fact and due to that are minimizing what Edelman brings to the table...as for Amendola I am definitely willing to cut him some slack...the early-season groin injury seemed to plague his whole season and he could possibly duplicate Edelman's production (although they still probably take a step back on special teams)...yet, until I see him healthy for a full 16 and having Brady's trust (and what else the Pats do at TE and WR) I am nervous about their receiving unit...

I like Edelman, have him on one of my rosters, have Amendola too. I'm just reasonable and understand that a player who catches a lot of passes because of a system does not equal a better player or more talented, explain why Welker didn't have 100 catches with the Broncos? Because he wasn't in the Patriots system.

He had 83 while missing three games...he also played had to share catches with Julius Thomas, Demaryuis Thomas, Eric Decker and Knowshon Moreno...I think he gave Denver exactly what they were looking for...

Thanks for making my point that he wasnt in the same system.

If I had a clue what you meant I would thank you...

Point, the NE slot receiver is a productive position and players will not reach same stats elsewhere. Welker will never produce like he has in New England, Edelman will not produce anywhere else like he did last year. A deaf and blind person can be a slot WR in NE and catch 100 balls. Do you get my point now?

The system is what matters in New England, not the slot WR. Edelman, Amendola, Sanders, even a rookie, will all come close to catching 100 if not more passes in this system. You would catch 100 passes in this system.

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Welker had more TDs in Denver than in any season with the Pats...if he played a 16 games he catches 90 balls while playing with an O with a ton of weapons...he averaged 10.7 YPC which is more than he had in three of his seasons with the Pats...not sure how this shows he is a product of the Patriot system...he's a very good player who fit the Patriot system perfectly but that doesn't mean any guy can step in and do it...I think the point you are missing (and it is a very big one) is while the Pats have a system and some guys can thrive in it there is a long line of players (not just at WR...take a look at CB) who simply did not fit the Patriot system and fall flat on their face...so while a guy may go elsewhere and not be very productive it also means a superior physical talent may come in and do worse as well...you are right in that with the Pats it is all about the system but you are dead wrong thinking anyone can transition into it...

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So Welker and Talib now go to the Broncos, who again look at the dregs.... I can't wait till they trade down in the draft for a couple of 5th rounders!! Yeah! Belichick's arrogance makes him blind and Kraft does nothing but count his money. A team like SEATTLE, yes, SEATTLE gets stronger while the Pats sink further into a teasing mediocrity cleverly disguised in 12-4 records. Brady's window is covered in bird poop!!!

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So Welker and Talib now go to the Broncos, who again look at the dregs.... I can't wait till they trade down in the draft for a couple of 5th rounders!! Yeah! Belichick's arrogance makes him blind and Kraft does nothing but count his money. A team like SEATTLE, yes, SEATTLE gets stronger while the Pats sink further into a teasing mediocrity cleverly disguised in 12-4 records. Brady's window is covered in bird poop!!!

Yeah, who wants a consistent 12-4 record every year?

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So Welker and Talib now go to the Broncos, who again look at the dregs.... I can't wait till they trade down in the draft for a couple of 5th rounders!! Yeah! Belichick's arrogance makes him blind and Kraft does nothing but count his money. A team like SEATTLE, yes, SEATTLE gets stronger while the Pats sink further into a teasing mediocrity cleverly disguised in 12-4 records. Brady's window is covered in bird poop!!!

Geez, settle down. Free agency has just started. Still a lot of guys who can help tremendously out there.

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Also, I keep seeing this product of the system like there's a lengthy history of guys producing like Edelman did...you had Troy Brown early in Brady's career, Welker's great run and one year of Edelman (who by the way was in the Pats system for three years learning their system as he converted from QB)...this is just not some huge sample size...there is no evidence that this is merely a plug and play...also Edelman played 51% of his snaps on the outside so he wasn't merely a slot guy...

I still think slot receiver in NE = decent production and that it is mostly the system and not the individual players involved. When the Pats have featured a guy in the slot, they have big reception totals. Brown: 83, 101, and 97 catches. Welker: 112, 111, 123, 86, 122, and 118 catches. Edelman: 105 catches.

Not sure how they determine snap percentage, but I remember tons of plays where Edelman lined up in one spot and either moved or went in motion back to toward the line of scrimmage. Not sure if those count as outside receiver or slot receiver snaps.

I'm not dissing Welker, as he obviously was fantastic, and I'm not shooting down Edelman, as he did a good job as the only consistently healthy receiving option the team had last year. But I would never put Brown, Welker, or Edelman in the uber elite receiver category with the Rice's, Owens', Moss', Fitzgerald's, or Megatron's of the world. As I mentioned either here or in other threads, any player that gets force fed 150-180 targets is going to get a ton of catches. It's not a guarantee that "NE slot WR" automatically gets 90 or 100 catches, but I don't think it is out of line to expect that from whoever that player is (if healthy).

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I for one am glad Talib is long gone after watching him not willing to gut out playing in the AFCG. The guy is soft and his bum hip isn't going to get better going forward. GL to Denver with him. I'm anxiously awaiting the peanut Tillman signing followed up by LaFell. That should set us up for another title run.

Does this team have any choice but burn some high picks on wr/te in May? Our receiving corps is pathetic and Steve Smith or Nicks isn't going to change that. All I see are glaring holes at wr/te, D-line, LB, safety and cb and every day that goes by the talent pool will diminish. How this team can't have tons of cap room is beyond me?

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I have this feeling in my gut that Revis goes back to the Jets and we end up with some bargain basement jags (insert name here) when this is all said and done.I refuse to get excited about anything regardless of speculation until the ink is dry. The Pats and Bruins I swear have the same war room.

That's how I handle it, too. Expect nothing or you'll be frustrated as hell. Then, if a big name lands in NE, you get to be super elated.

I have this feeling in my gut that Revis goes back to the Jets and we end up with some bargain basement jags (insert name here) when this is all said and done.I refuse to get excited about anything regardless of speculation until the ink is dry. The Pats and Bruins I swear have the same war room.

No way is Revis going back to the Jets, he might not end up in NE but I can't see him going back to NY.

My guess is Revis is like Ty Law and he's gonna go to whoever pays him the most money...

He's made some big money already. I would be surprised to see him restructure and leave a little on the table to play for the right team. He'll still make huge money. The question is whether or not NE would be the "right team" to him.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

Good god not Peppers, I would rather they get Allen.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

Good god not Peppers, I would rather they get Allen.

Allen >> Peppers but I heard Seahawks not Pats are meeting with him

Just at least get Revis!

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

WRs in the draft. Who else is really out there? Nicks? Decker?

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

What about Rodgers-Cromartie, or Antonio Cromartie wouldn't they be cheaper and then resign Edelmen?

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Maybe the Pats go after Decker as pay back for the Welker signing last year? I know it is not BB's style, but Brady needs some help on the edges IMO.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

WRs in the draft. Who else is really out there? Nicks? Decker?

Nicks, Decker, Steve Smith will be soon, James Jones, and a few others

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Dobson, Amendola, Boyce and Thompkins. We have not even seen the full potential of these guys. Dobson was hurt he could still be the guy you are looking for on the outside. I would take my shot in the draft on a high upside guy late in Rd. 1 like Cooks or Beckham and be happy with this core and its youth with upside.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

What about Rodgers-Cromartie, or Antonio Cromartie wouldn't they be cheaper and then resign Edelmen?

There is a reason they are cheaper...Revis is the best...

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I for one am glad Talib is long gone after watching him not willing to gut out playing in the AFCG. The guy is soft and his bum hip isn't going to get better going forward. GL to Denver with him. I'm anxiously awaiting the peanut Tillman signing followed up by LaFell. That should set us up for another title run.

Does this team have any choice but burn some high picks on wr/te in May? Our receiving corps is pathetic and Steve Smith or Nicks isn't going to change that. All I see are glaring holes at wr/te, D-line, LB, safety and cb and every day that goes by the talent pool will diminish. How this team can't have tons of cap room is beyond me?

I love this time of year. The sky is always falling for Pats fans. Talk radio these days is priceless. People are ready to jump off a cliff. To listen to all the whining and complaining and all the glaring weaknesses, you would think the team was coming off back-to-back-to-back 5-11 seasons.

Having several star players is a nice thing to have, but many times depth is what wins more than just star power. NE will do what they always do. Maybe get in on one top tier free agent and then stockpile a bunch of vets or guys coming off of injuries on prove it to me deals. Unless Edelman comes back at a reasonable price, I think they can get his production elsewhere or in house without breaking the bank. Emmanuel Sanders is another option that could be an option.

I agree that they seem to fall a player or two short at the end of the season, but let's not forget how many injuries they've had and to key players at that. Record wise, I don't see NE being any worse than last year. With some help from FAs or the draft, coupled with guys returning healthy that were out much of the year, NE should still be in the AFCC game. You gotta be in it to win it, and who's healthy at the end of the year will play a key role in how far they advance.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

WRs in the draft. Who else is really out there? Nicks? Decker?

They got their Wrs in the draft last year. Need atleast 1 plug and play vet imo. Nicks, Decker, Austin, Smiff, E Sanders, J Jones, Edelman

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So Welker and Talib now go to the Broncos, who again look at the dregs.... I can't wait till they trade down in the draft for a couple of 5th rounders!! Yeah! Belichick's arrogance makes him blind and Kraft does nothing but count his money. A team like SEATTLE, yes, SEATTLE gets stronger while the Pats sink further into a teasing mediocrity cleverly disguised in 12-4 records. Brady's window is covered in bird poop!!!

Yeah, who wants a consistent 12-4 record every year?

Signed,

Lions, Browns, Jaguars, Redskins, Raiders, Vikings, Dolphins, Bills, Buccs, Jets, Titans, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, Bears, Falcons, Cardinals, Texans, Chargers and any other team that wishes to win 12 games consistently.

Easy to get 12 wins every year when the other 3 teams in the division have sucked for the entire decade. Amazing how bad the Fins, Bills and Jets have been in terms of getting a decent Qb for the last 10+ years.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

What about Rodgers-Cromartie, or Antonio Cromartie wouldn't they be cheaper and then resign Edelmen?There is a reason they are cheaper...Revis is the best...

I understand he is better then those guys but depth is the name of the game in the NFL. I would rather have a starting corner, another receiver and a pass rusher then just Revis

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

WRs in the draft. Who else is really out there? Nicks? Decker?

They got their Wrs in the draft last year. Need atleast 1 plug and play vet imo. Nicks, Decker, Austin, Smiff, E Sanders, J Jones, Edelman

No thanks.

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So Welker and Talib now go to the Broncos, who again look at the dregs.... I can't wait till they trade down in the draft for a couple of 5th rounders!! Yeah! Belichick's arrogance makes him blind and Kraft does nothing but count his money. A team like SEATTLE, yes, SEATTLE gets stronger while the Pats sink further into a teasing mediocrity cleverly disguised in 12-4 records. Brady's window is covered in bird poop!!!

Yeah, who wants a consistent 12-4 record every year?

Signed,

Lions, Browns, Jaguars, Redskins, Raiders, Vikings, Dolphins, Bills, Buccs, Jets, Titans, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, Bears, Falcons, Cardinals, Texans, Chargers and any other team that wishes to win 12 games consistently.

Easy to get 12 wins every year when the other 3 teams in the division have sucked for the entire decade. Amazing how bad the Fins, Bills and Jets have been in terms of getting a decent Qb for the last 10+ years.

I can't find the thread but I believe it was posted in the AFC East was the worst division in football thread last year. The AFC East had one of the best winning percentages outside of the division since 2000. So this isn't true at all.

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Okay Pats, go get Revis and Peppers!!!

I will happily eat my words about the front office!!

Rather have Revis and some WR help.

What about Rodgers-Cromartie, or Antonio Cromartie wouldn't they be cheaper and then resign Edelmen?

There is a reason they are cheaper...Revis is the best...

I understand he is better then those guys but depth is the name of the game in the NFL. I would rather have a starting corner, another receiver and a pass rusher then just Revis

It's depth and stars...the Pats have depth and that is necessary to get thru 16 games but come playoffs you need some top-end studs to get you over the hump and the Pats need help in that area...if not you can pencil them in for a 12-4 season with no championship...and one year closer to the end of the Brady era...

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Personally think it would be a hugely successful free agency to get Revis and one of Nicks, Edelman or Decker.

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Personally think it would be a hugely successful free agency to get Revis and one of Nicks, Edelman or Decker.

I still think if (and trust me, this is a HUGE if) Gronk, Amendola, new WR or Dobson, and Vereen are all healthy Edelman sees a fraction of the targets he saw last year and at best becomes a 40-50 catch guy with 400-500 receiving yards. He was a good soldier last year, but IMO he was the only guy that suited up every week and otherwise not hobbled. That led to him catching 105 balls more than anything else.

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Personally think it would be a hugely successful free agency to get Revis and one of Nicks, Edelman or Decker.

I have no problem adding a WR. Just get Revis. And Allen. That would be amazing. If the Pats have the money they should be spending it now. You know, just like Denver is doing. The window is closing. Cliche but true.

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Personally think it would be a hugely successful free agency to get Revis and one of Nicks, Edelman or Decker.

I still think if (and trust me, this is a HUGE if) Gronk, Amendola, new WR or Dobson, and Vereen are all healthy Edelman sees a fraction of the targets he saw last year and at best becomes a 40-50 catch guy with 400-500 receiving yards. He was a good soldier last year, but IMO he was the only guy that suited up every week and otherwise not hobbled. That led to him catching 105 balls more than anything else.

You are probably right but there's too many ifs there without another wr to make me comfortable. If Amendola is able to stay healthy, if Gronk is out there week 1, if Dobson continues his development. I really think they owe Brady one more weapon. Edelman would be my 3rd choice of those 3 i mentioned but he is the guy who already knows the ins and outs of the system.

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Personally think it would be a hugely successful free agency to get Revis and one of Nicks, Edelman or Decker.

I still think if (and trust me, this is a HUGE if) Gronk, Amendola, new WR or Dobson, and Vereen are all healthy Edelman sees a fraction of the targets he saw last year and at best becomes a 40-50 catch guy with 400-500 receiving yards. He was a good soldier last year, but IMO he was the only guy that suited up every week and otherwise not hobbled. That led to him catching 105 balls more than anything else.

You are probably right but there's too many ifs there without another wr to make me comfortable. If Amendola is able to stay healthy, if Gronk is out there week 1, if Dobson continues his development. I really think they owe Brady one more weapon. Edelman would be my 3rd choice of those 3 i mentioned but he is the guy who already knows the ins and outs of the system.

It depends what Edelman wants. If he wants Amendola money (5 years, $28.5 million with $10 million upfront), that's too much for a guy that may not even be an every down receiver. It doesn't seem to make sense to have two $6 million slot receivers with both playing at the same time on occasion. But with so many guys out of the line up last year, it's hard to tell how the puzzle pieces might work with or without Edelman.

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Revis is a must at this point. Radio around here is expecting it, most Pats fans are now expecting it. Things are gonna blow up lol if they lost Talib and can't lock up Revis.

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Fingers crossed on Revis, even if that's the only significant move they made in f.a. I'd be happy. The skill position players available other than possibly trading for Sproles (who we don't need) are crap IMO.

On defense we could have used a safety but what's left is garbage. D-line to me has Allen (who will probably get more than he's worth), a washed up Peppers who we needed four years ago and a bunch of jags. If we end up with DRC, Finnegan or Cro I will be less than thrilled. Revis, a few jags and onto the draft.

This was a thin f.a. crop overall and we could still come out with the best player of the bunch. The problem is we still need a safety, inside lb, edge rusher and a minimum of two quality skill players for Brady. Edelman at the right price would help as well but I see some team paying too much for him.

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Revis is a must at this point. Radio around here is expecting it, most Pats fans are now expecting it. Things are gonna blow up lol if they lost Talib and can't lock up Revis.

Meh. A legitimate pass rusher opposite Jones would do far more for the secondary than ANY corner.

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Revis is a must at this point. Radio around here is expecting it, most Pats fans are now expecting it. Things are gonna blow up lol if they lost Talib and can't lock up Revis.

Meh. A legitimate pass rusher opposite Jones would do far more for the secondary than ANY corner.

A washed up Peppers or Allen aren't even necessarily an upgrade over Ninkovich at this point. There's no pass rusher whos going to make that secondary without Revis anything but a free for all.

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I would be shocked if they even entertained the top corner on the market. There's no way we sign revis call me crazy

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