Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Watkins gets open at will.
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WR Sammy Watkins, BAL (1 Viewer)
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Ilov80s
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Ilov80s
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Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I mean, I love Watkins, but Gilmore had great coverage on Marshall and forced that INT. Watkins just straight-up dropped a ball.
jurb26
Footballguy
Yeah, because those "drops" were remotely the same. Actually, that might not even go down as a drop because ricocheted off Gilmore before it got to him. Probably goes as a pass defenses.
Let's also not forget his ill timed jump earlier that looked like a drunk guy missing a door handle on his way out of a bar.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Right, should have been an 80 yard TD. It was one of the worst played balls I have seen in the NFL in awhile.
Milkman
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
This is like your 5th post about that play- you have a lot of money on it or something?
Ilov80s
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
Watkins just needs game reps. He will be a very good WR next season.
jbradford787
Footballguy
Benched Watkins for Moncrief last week. Started him over Kelce this week. Sorry...but if you have Kelce he should be good to go Sunday!
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Ivory and Watkins in multiple leagues. FML
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Woods gets 7 targets and has 3 catches for 19 yards.
Watkins 6 targets and has 2 catches for 10 yards.
This passing offence is definition of up and down. Taylor has happy legs in the pocket.
Watkins 6 targets and has 2 catches for 10 yards.
This passing offence is definition of up and down. Taylor has happy legs in the pocket.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He sucks... Nobody starting him will win their league. Does anyone really believe this POS can string together 3 good games in a row?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
No and I have a lot of posts in here before the season started saying that Watkins was being over drafted. He has played in 6 games this year. 3 were good to great, 3 were bad.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
He has topped out at a game high of 8 targets once time in a game this year. Until they start getting him more consistent targets, he is not going to be reliable as a WR. Heck check out Antonio Brown's numbers without Big Ben for full games in weeks 5 and 6. He had 3 catches for 45 yards and 6 targets in one game and 3 catches for 24 yards on 8 targets in another one.
Check out all the best fantasy WR's and compare their usage and targets with that of Watkins. In dynasty still a lot of time here folks. In redraft you are going to battle inconsistency.
Check out all the best fantasy WR's and compare their usage and targets with that of Watkins. In dynasty still a lot of time here folks. In redraft you are going to battle inconsistency.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Last time I played him in my main league was week when he got a zero. Two starts: .7 points average. FML
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Oof...bad last minute decision to start ol' Sammy. Of course I start Tyrod alongside him and he has his worst game of the season as well 
georg013
Footballguy
This is as tough a matchup he will see the rest of the way. I am starting him with extreme confidence from here on out.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Made the same mistake.
matuski
Footballguy
You keep wanting to compare Watkins to the best receivers in the league. At this point you need to be comparing him to 2nd/3rd tier WRs. Why on earth would you bring Antonio Brown into a conversation about Sammy Watkins...
He had his chance to have a big game last night and blew his opportunities. His targets and usage are pretty high for what he is doing with them imo.
3-4 catch games with a few bigger games mixed in where he actually converts the big play opportunities.. looks about right at this point.
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matuski
Footballguy
I was wrong.. he has some improving to do to get on Decker's level.Simple enough, since we obviously aren't taking physical attributes into play:I'd like to hear that argument......I would argue Sammy is a lot closer to Eric Decker than Andre Johnson.Didn't we go through that over 40% of his targets last year were uncatchable?
That he caught 90% of what was catchable?
That would be cause for optimism in my book, unless Tyrod is worse than EJ and Orton in that respect
And the standard retort on rex ryan's former receivers: Were they Sammy Watkins?
74 962 5 (bad offense)
65 982 6 (bad offense)
Not being used in this comparison would be Decker putting up 87/1200/11 (with Peyton of course, but that is the point)... beyond what I see is Sammy's ceiling in Buffalo.
Very good, but a far cry from being a gimme top ff WR (like Andre was for so long)
habsfan
Footballguy
Kind of an enigma. I thought the play on the ball there was pretty bad, like he turned and said, "Oh look! A football!"
On the other hand, I noted (in a positive way) the one he caught OOB in the end zone a bit later. It didn't count but he came away with the ball in good coverage...
Agree.Deamon said:
Post Revis, this is a great opportunity to buy low.
Buffalo's schedule looks very friendly and I could see this team along with the Taylor/Watkins connection start to grow:
@NE
@KC
HOU
@PHI
@WASH
DAL
There are no scary Ds here. Maybe Philly, but all of those secondaries are beatable.
Watkins is going to help in the fantasy playoffs.
No. He's on Decker's level. He just doesn't have Marshall to help his cause. And both he and Decker are prone to drops.matuski said:I was wrong.. he has some improving to do to get on Decker's level.Simple enough, since we obviously aren't taking physical attributes into play:I'd like to hear that argument......I would argue Sammy is a lot closer to Eric Decker than Andre Johnson.Didn't we go through that over 40% of his targets last year were uncatchable?
That he caught 90% of what was catchable?
That would be cause for optimism in my book, unless Tyrod is worse than EJ and Orton in that respect
And the standard retort on rex ryan's former receivers: Were they Sammy Watkins?
74 962 5 (bad offense)
65 982 6 (bad offense)
Not being used in this comparison would be Decker putting up 87/1200/11 (with Peyton of course, but that is the point)... beyond what I see is Sammy's ceiling in Buffalo.
Very good, but a far cry from being a gimme top ff WR (like Andre was for so long)
I watched the game and I saw a supremely talented wr that can burn even a top corner in the league, who isn't in sync it's his qb (who isn't ever going to be a top passing qb).
So I think his situation and propensity for injury are ultimately what might not allow him to reach the level he is capable of reaching in his career.
If I'm a dynasty owner I like what I saw night. In redraft I'm glad I dropped his #### 5 weeks ago. He made everyone feel dumb last week by exploding on fantasy benches around the world and then this week he screwed them all by giving them a near zero stat line in their flex or wr3 spots.
The consistency is gonna take a while to come.
So I think his situation and propensity for injury are ultimately what might not allow him to reach the level he is capable of reaching in his career.
If I'm a dynasty owner I like what I saw night. In redraft I'm glad I dropped his #### 5 weeks ago. He made everyone feel dumb last week by exploding on fantasy benches around the world and then this week he screwed them all by giving them a near zero stat line in their flex or wr3 spots.
The consistency is gonna take a while to come.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Sammy Watkins, the next Eric Decker...?
jbradford787
Footballguy
People have been too quick to overreact both directions, positive and negative. His stats from last week were not likely to be repeated this week. On the other hand, he has not been fully healthy for a while and is playing under a new head coach and with a new QB (who is more of a runner than a passer) in only his 2nd year in the NFL. Give him some time?
Jack White
Footballguy
Watkins is a huge talent. Two things are holding him back: injuries and QB play.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Watkins was coming off an injury, playing with a QB who was also injured, and he was shadowed by THE premiere CB of the last decade.
He created a lot of separation on several occasions and simply didnt capitalize on those opportunities. But I liked what he saw. As stated up thread, he just needs to stay healthy and get more game reps. His situation is not ideal for FF production but the talent is undeniable.
People saying he sucks and comparing him to Decker are clueless.
He created a lot of separation on several occasions and simply didnt capitalize on those opportunities. But I liked what he saw. As stated up thread, he just needs to stay healthy and get more game reps. His situation is not ideal for FF production but the talent is undeniable.
People saying he sucks and comparing him to Decker are clueless.
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matuski
Footballguy
Decker doesn't suck in the least.
Certainly a more apt comparison (while still generous imo.. he hasn't produced on Decker's level yet) than Andre Johnson and Antonio Brown.
