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Those guys have a pretty good point. 

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25 minutes ago, OrtonToOlsen said:

ATTN law type people @Henry Ford @Zow @Otis @krista4 @General Malaise @urbanhack@Thorn @-fish-

I like these guys.  They have inspired me to maybe go to a lawyer school thingy

100% NSFW SERIOUSLY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs

SHUT THE #### UP.

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On 1/1/2019 at 11:47 AM, Otis said:

Here's something I was pondering today regarding our profession:

Elon Musk is a guy who looks at the big, huge picture, years or decades out, and takes action now to literally change the world.  He started Tesla to help wean the world from fossil fuels and accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles (which by all accounts he has achieved rather successfully).  He started SpaceX because he believes colonizing Mars and other planets is crucial to the long-term survival of our species.  He claims that we could start colonizing Mars within 10 years.

And yet, in our professional, it all feels very old fashioned.  We're still writing on legal pads in depositions.  We're doing things more or less in the same ways.  Yes there are some vendors out there who are using AI to speed up doc review or to help write basic agreements, but by and large it feels like we are dinosaurs.

What is the next huge change on the horizon for us?  Are we going to become obsolete if we don't adapt? Is there major opportunity in offering legal services in some truly innovative ways? What's are some things that we in our profession can do in that same vein as Musk, things that are transformative? 

In part I ask this out of curiosity, and in part I ask this because I wonder what I might do as a "next step" in my career, beyond what I've been doing for 20 years and would continue to do for another 20 in a traditional law firm.

The best I can come up with is an area that I find super interesting and which clients are all freaking out about (which suggests there is true opportunity there) is big data/AI/data privacy/etc.  Lots of really interesting IP/privacy/cyber issues in there.  Obviously some big firms have these practices, but not many.  I wonder about starting up some new boutique that specializes in one-stop shopping across all these "data law" areas.  And then providing the services on some unique fee arrangements (fixed monthly fee, we handle all your needs, not at super cheap rates but cheaper than the biggest firms), and some new forward-thinking ways of delivering services.

But even this is just the most minor step forward.  It's not that interesting or unique.  It's opening a firm that is somewhat cutting edge and focusing on a cutting edge practice area where there, I am banking, will be some significant needs in the coming decades.

It ain't great, but it's the best I've got.  Other thoughts on all this?

 

Skype/FaceTime/something secure $50 consult that gets applied toward your IP compliance/regulatory/SOC2/whatever legal consulting contract if you sign one, which also places you on retainer as a data breach litigator. 

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44 minutes ago, OrtonToOlsen said:

ATTN law type people @Henry Ford @Zow @Otis @krista4 @General Malaise @urbanhack@Thorn @-fish-

I like these guys.  They have inspired me to maybe go to a lawyer school thingy

100% NSFW SERIOUSLY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 

The guy in the background.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 

Shut the #### up Friday!

:lmao: :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: 

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Full disclosure...shockingly...I am not a lawyer.

 

But whenever I discuss the BoR with my students (esp the 4th and 5th) I tell them “don’t say a word...I mean it...you ever watch a TV show or movie where someone ‘lawyers up’? Yeah, that..do that’. “  

What is hilarious is that 90% of my students that get busted for doing something on campus is because somebody narced.

 

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4 minutes ago, krista4 said:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 

The guy in the background.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 

Shut the #### up Friday!

:lmao: :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: 

Every lawyer should have a hype man.  

I am available for a fee.

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favorite issue of the year so far: long term client’s relative was hit by a car in a parking lot as a pedestrian. Was told by the insurance company of the guy who hit her that he said she jumped in front of the car so they were investigating her for insurance fraud. 

Spoke to the insurance company, whose rep was adamant that my new client is a liar and a cheat.  

“Listen, you don’t know me but I don’t take frivolous cases and I don’t take scams.  If I understand you correctly, my 85 year old client who retired at 50 and just returned from living in Europe for ten years threw herself in front of a 98 Toyota Corolla driving the wrong way down a parking lot aisle in front of a Walmart as an insurance scam, is that correct?”

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10 hours ago, OrtonToOlsen said:

ATTN law type people @Henry Ford @Zow @Otis @krista4 @General Malaise @urbanhack@Thorn @-fish-

I like these guys.  They have inspired me to maybe go to a lawyer school thingy

100% NSFW SERIOUSLY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs

Yeah this ad has been making the rounds. And they aren’t wrong. 

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9 hours ago, OrtonToOlsen said:

Full disclosure...shockingly...I am not a lawyer.

 

But whenever I discuss the BoR with my students (esp the 4th and 5th) I tell them “don’t say a word...I mean it...you ever watch a TV show or movie where someone ‘lawyers up’? Yeah, that..do that’. “  

What is hilarious is that 90% of my students that get busted for doing something on campus is because somebody narced.

 

That’s what’s referred to as the “prisoner’s dilemma.”  All it takes is one weak one. It’s also why I have a hard time believing in mass conspiracies because it’s inevitable that somebody would narc. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma

 

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11 hours ago, OrtonToOlsen said:

Every lawyer should have a hype man.  

I am available for a fee.

"Will work for weed"

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I'll share a story regarding the issue of shut the #### up and why I cannot imagine a scenario where I'd ever even passively condone a client speaking to police. 

This was a few years ago when I was beginning to make the name for myself of being the guy in my area for these types of cases.  Family calls me in cold because client is being arrested for child molestation (I'll keep the facts of the allegation minimal because they aren't that relevant/important for the purpose of this post/story).  I meet client at the police department right before questioning (while this doesn't happen very often and isn't nearly as glamorous, it's about as close to a real life Law and Order:SVU interrogation scene as you can get).  I quickly get up to speed and speak to both the lead detective (a guy I previously believed to be a pretty above board officer who had actually kept his word to me when he didn't have to on an unrelated case a few months prior) and my client. Client is insistent nothing happened and wants to make a statement.  I, of course, provide the cautionary advice but, after realizing the client doesn't want to invoke, I walk him through how to make short, succinct, honest statements and only answer the questions asked.

 

We go in to the interview room and there's maybe a 15 minute interrogation. I'm right with my client and jump in where necessary but the interrogation really was pretty reasonable.  Detective's questions were seemingly fine and the client did a nice job answering questions without going off on tangents and/or with any hint of deception and directly denied the allegations where appropriate. Both myself and the detective recorded the conversation.  The Detective was very up front that a charge was being filed regardless of my client's statement so my client and I left the interrogation thinking, "all things considered, mission accomplished: we now have an outright denial during custodial interrogation that I likely can elicit as admissible hearsay from the detective should this ever go to trial."

Fast forward to my client's initial appearance the next morning.  I'm preparing to make a bond argument and I read in the detective's probable cause statement that, "the defendant admitted to touching the victim."  I had to read it through times to believe it was included as my client never admitted guilt at any point. It dawns on me after thinking about the interrogation that this is where the detective pulled the claim and spun it: 

Detective: She says [allegation].  Did you touch her [in manner consistent with allegation]?

Client:  No.  I never touched her [in manner consistent with allegation].  

Detective:  Did you or any part of your body ever come in contact with her body at all? 

Client: Well yeah.  We were sitting next to each other on the couch playing a video game together (handheld console they passed back and forth) like we do all the time.  I'm sure our legs were in touching or something.        

Detective: Do you think you may have, in contact, accidentally touched her [in manner consistent with allegation]? 

Client: Absolutely not. We were just playing a video game. 

Obviously the detective took my client's honest, innocuous answer (yes, our bodies were touching) and morphed its context.  This came from what I had reason to believe to be a "good" officer and from a recorded conversation with the attorney present.  I was obviously able to put a bit of egg on the officer's face and, had this matter gone to trial, would have been able to impeach the detective but for the initial appearance it still hurt my client. 

I tell this story to every client I have advised since on whether they should speak to police and I genuinely cannot think of a scenario where I'd advise somebody to answer an officer's questions if it's pretty clear the officer is suspicious of criminal activity.  

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14 hours ago, OrtonToOlsen said:

ATTN law type people @Henry Ford @Zow @Otis @krista4 @General Malaise @urbanhack@Thorn @-fish-

I like these guys.  They have inspired me to maybe go to a lawyer school thingy

100% NSFW SERIOUSLY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs

This is what heroes look like.

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On 1/1/2019 at 12:47 PM, Otis said:

Here's something I was pondering today regarding our profession:

Elon Musk is a guy who looks at the big, huge picture, years or decades out, and takes action now to literally change the world.  He started Tesla to help wean the world from fossil fuels and accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles (which by all accounts he has achieved rather successfully).  He started SpaceX because he believes colonizing Mars and other planets is crucial to the long-term survival of our species.  He claims that we could start colonizing Mars within 10 years.

And yet, in our professional, it all feels very old fashioned.  We're still writing on legal pads in depositions.  We're doing things more or less in the same ways.  Yes there are some vendors out there who are using AI to speed up doc review or to help write basic agreements, but by and large it feels like we are dinosaurs.

What is the next huge change on the horizon for us?  Are we going to become obsolete if we don't adapt? Is there major opportunity in offering legal services in some truly innovative ways? What's are some things that we in our profession can do in that same vein as Musk, things that are transformative? 

In part I ask this out of curiosity, and in part I ask this because I wonder what I might do as a "next step" in my career, beyond what I've been doing for 20 years and would continue to do for another 20 in a traditional law firm.

The best I can come up with is an area that I find super interesting and which clients are all freaking out about (which suggests there is true opportunity there) is big data/AI/data privacy/etc.  Lots of really interesting IP/privacy/cyber issues in there.  Obviously some big firms have these practices, but not many.  I wonder about starting up some new boutique that specializes in one-stop shopping across all these "data law" areas.  And then providing the services on some unique fee arrangements (fixed monthly fee, we handle all your needs, not at super cheap rates but cheaper than the biggest firms), and some new forward-thinking ways of delivering services.

But even this is just the most minor step forward.  It's not that interesting or unique.  It's opening a firm that is somewhat cutting edge and focusing on a cutting edge practice area where there, I am banking, will be some significant needs in the coming decades.

It ain't great, but it's the best I've got.  Other thoughts on all this?

 

I just feel like someone should tell you Elon Musk didn't start Tesla...carry on...

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On 12/19/2018 at 12:13 AM, Zow said:

Sometimes this is an incredibly difficult, strange profession where achievement can seem rather hollow. 

Today, consistent with an unexplainable pattern of achieving incredibly favorable results for clients charged with serious sex crimes (whether by way of an acquittal at trial or a favorable plea agreement), I obtained, after hundreds of hours of work and the combination of a well-crafted and argued motion to suppress as well as knowing the opposing counsel/prosecutor well enough to time a counter-offer offer at the precise moment in the case which significantly limited my client's exposure, an outcome so favorable that it would have seemed impossible at the case's inception. The case is high-profile, which means I'll be even more solicited as "the guy" in my jurisdiction for murders and very serious sex crimes, and the named partners at my firm couldn't be happier with me.

However, today, because of my work, a victim of sexual abuse suffered an emotional break down in court and had to be essentially carried out of the room after she mustered all the energy she could to tell her story - only to hear that my legal arguments overcame her emotional outcry. Her supporters and a few other onlookers shot me looks of pure hate as if I had committed the actions alleged in the indictment myself. While I know that I, of course, didn't commit those actions and I merely did my job well within the procedural and ethical rules of my jurisdiction, I can't help but wonder if I just silenced some other victim of abuse from coming forward.   And, if so, how can I not feel terrible about that?

But I can't really think about this empirical question because, at 10 PM after working since 6:30 AM, I still have to respond to few more emails as efficiently as possible so I can get to bed and wake up tomorrow to do the work necessary to repeat what I did today. 

You're supposed to want to be on the other side of this equation...

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9 hours ago, dotman said:

You're supposed to want to be on the other side of this equation...

But somebody has to be on the side of the equation that I was. And, if I can do that job professionally and within the ethical confines of the law, then it’s far better that I’m on that side because somebody needs to be and another person may not be able to do the job as the constitution intends. 

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13 hours ago, dotman said:

You're supposed to want to be on the other side of this equation...

:hottake:

 

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7 hours ago, Zow said:

But somebody has to be on the side of the equation that I was. And, if I can do that job professionally and within the ethical confines of the law, then it’s far better that I’m on that side because somebody needs to be and another person may not be able to do the job as the constitution intends. 

Why even justify that with a response

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34 minutes ago, Thorn said:

Why even justify that with a response

Because he's my friend. 

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16 hours ago, Zow said:

Because he's my friend. 

I can't believe I completely forgot he's the dude that "brought woz to the boards."  Now I only see him as "that guy who trolls the trans thread," thought he was doing the same in here.

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18 minutes ago, Thorn said:

I can't believe I completely forgot he's the dude that "brought woz to the boards."  Now I only see him as "that guy who trolls the trans thread," thought he was doing the same in here.

The trans thread?

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5 minutes ago, Zow said:

The trans thread?

Yup.  Transgender thread.  It’s a real eye opener about some posters.

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Interesting, he deleted most of his posts there.

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1 hour ago, Thorn said:

I can't believe I completely forgot he's the dude that "brought woz to the boards."  Now I only see him as "that guy who trolls the trans thread," thought he was doing the same in here.

Actually I'm giving myself a pass on this one.  Dude last posted in 2010 until this week, where he has posted in:

  • "Another Killing at the Hands of Police" thread where he was called 'unraveled'
  • Trans thread where he admitted he was trolling and since deleted his posts
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18 hours ago, Zow said:

Because he's my friend. 

You may want to check on him. Call his wife and confirm he's safe.

 

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3 hours ago, Henry Ford said:

Yup.  Transgender thread.  It’s a real eye opener about some posters.

I figured that was the thread but I didn’t see any posts from him. 

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23 minutes ago, Zow said:

I figured that was the thread but I didn’t see any posts from him. 

He deleted them.  Many are still quoted in my responses to him.

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1 hour ago, Yankee23Fan said:

This job is soul crushing sometimes.

 

Good for you for still having a soul. 

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10 hours ago, Yankee23Fan said:

This job is soul crushing sometimes.

 

:penalty:

Lawyers have no soul.

(I kid... have a few close friends that are lawyers and enjoy reading this thread.  Carry on...)

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For anyone thinking they had a bad day:

Associate in Dentons' Vancouver office gets duped, wires $2,518,250 in sale proceeds from firm's trust account to a scammer posing as mortgage lender.

Insurance coverage uncertain: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2018/2018onsc7311/2018onsc7311.html

 

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3 hours ago, CletiusMaximus said:

For anyone thinking they had a bad day:

Associate in Dentons' Vancouver office gets duped, wires $2,518,250 in sale proceeds from firm's trust account to a scammer posing as mortgage lender.

Insurance coverage uncertain: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2018/2018onsc7311/2018onsc7311.html

 

Oof.  Jesus. 

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12 hours ago, CletiusMaximus said:

For anyone thinking they had a bad day:

Associate in Dentons' Vancouver office gets duped, wires $2,518,250 in sale proceeds from firm's trust account to a scammer posing as mortgage lender.

Insurance coverage uncertain: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2018/2018onsc7311/2018onsc7311.html

 

I feel sick

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I just asked the powers that be if our coverages include "social engineering fraud."

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This class action stuff looks like pretty good work if you can get it.

Objection to Class Counsel's Fee Application in the NFL Concussion Litigation:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ea9qpDTE1ftocms8n1uT6AdGvqpg6HHu/view

 

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Less than two years into a 65-year settlement, Class Counsel has already depleted almost 90% of the $112.5 million common benefit fund (“Fee Fund”) this Court said was “to be used to pay Class Counsel for securing and [ii] implementing” the settlement over the course of the next six decades.

 

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From the $22.8 million set aside by the Court for implementation, and in response to Co-Lead Class Counsel’s First Verified Petition for An Award of Post-Effective Date Common Benefit Attorneys’ Fees and Costs (ECF 10128; the “First Petition”), the Court recently awarded Class Counsel $9.4 million for fees and expenses they claimed were incurred between January 2017 and May 2018 (See ECF 10378). Co-lead Class Counsel’s Second Petition seeks an additional $3.2 million for fees and expenses allegedly incurred over a 6-month period between May and November 2018 (ECF 10374).

Collectively, the First and Second Petitions confirm Class Counsel—left largely unrestrained and with little Class Member oversight and an apparently-unlimited (and undisclosed) budget—are burning through funds set aside for the settlement’s 65-year term at more than $500,000 per month. At that pace, and if the Second Petition is granted, the remaining $10.2 million set aside for implementation will be exhausted in less than two years, approximately 61 years before the end of the settlement’s 65-year term.

 

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Question for the Lawyer guys......

I'm not the suing type but this has my blood boiling and is costing me money...... My wife had a hip replaced back in July. The hip itself is good now, but part of the incision never healed. She went back to the doctor 3 weeks after surgery and he said he didnt know what was going on, that mostly it was because she's overweight. the bulge kept getting bigger, opened once and drained like crazy, then her skin flaked off, but it closed up.

It started growing again and was painful. Went back to the surgeon in Dec. He didn't even look at it, had is PA look at it and told her, she didn't know, but it wasn't anything major. The doctor once again stated it was because she was overweight.

A few weeks ago she went to see a dermatologist, he wouldn't touch it because he didn't do the surgery, went to a walk-in clinic, and they wouldn't do anything but suggested she see her primary. She went to see her, and the doctor was livid no one would touch her. By now it's was still growing. So her doctor cut it open, instant relief. She feels the incision was never sutured properly and her incision was now herniated and tissue growing out of it and told her she should see a Plastic Surgeon to get it fixed. It's been draining for 3 weeks now and I've been changing her dressing twice a day. Last Weds it burst, I won't tell you what came out of it, but it was freaking gross. Again she had instant relief. She's finally getting into the Plastic Surgeon this Weds, and hopefully he'll fix her up by the end of the week. But we are talking about another surgery now and more money out of my pocket.

The ego of this surgeon is unreal. He flat out told us when we went back after surgery that there will be no infections or any complications because he will not have that tarnish his record. That he didn't know what the bulge was and that it was because she was overweight.

She has lost muscle in that leg and has a lot of troubles with it, she needs to get muscle back but she can't because she can't exercise because of the open wound.

Is there any malpractice here? I feel so bad for her and the pain and crap she's endured over these past 6 months, It's ridiculous. I've been taking pictures every few days and have everything documented.

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Does anyone have any experience with Colorado Construction law?

We bought 1/2 a duplex with a metal roof that has a sharp pitch to it's roof. After it snows the metal roof heats up quickly causing all the snow on the roof to flow into the gutters. This makes them fill up and creates dripping icicles and chunks of snow dropping onto the pathway to our door. Since it's a duplex, we have to coordinate with the other owner to install snow guards on the roof to fix it. It's not cheap. The issue is they don't live in their unit and instead rent it out. We got the quotes to fix it, but they want to try and sue the builder in small claims court for the $6k to fix it. 

I'd rather just be done with it and get it fixed since we have to live with it, but they wanna go down that path first. Obviously, I'd like the builder to fix it, but is there any way this works? Or is it tough luck? If anything, the stupid roof installer should've put it on IMO.

Frustrating.

:angry: 

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4 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Does anyone have any experience with Colorado Construction law?

We bought 1/2 a duplex with a metal roof that has a sharp pitch to it's roof. After it snows the metal roof heats up quickly causing all the snow on the roof to flow into the gutters. This makes them fill up and creates dripping icicles and chunks of snow dropping onto the pathway to our door. Since it's a duplex, we have to coordinate with the other owner to install snow guards on the roof to fix it. It's not cheap. The issue is they don't live in their unit and instead rent it out. We got the quotes to fix it, but they want to try and sue the builder in small claims court for the $6k to fix it. 

I'd rather just be done with it and get it fixed since we have to live with it, but they wanna go down that path first. Obviously, I'd like the builder to fix it, but is there any way this works? Or is it tough luck? If anything, the stupid roof installer should've put it on IMO.

Frustrating.

:angry: 

Not a Colorado guy, but I do a lot of construction defect work.   Colorado has a notice of claims statute, so no matter what you'd start by notifying the builder of the problem, which triggers an informal process where they get an opportunity to inspect and do repairs.   Nothing to lose by initiating the process.

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11 minutes ago, -fish- said:

Not a Colorado guy, but I do a lot of construction defect work.   Colorado has a notice of claims statute, so no matter what you'd start by notifying the builder of the problem, which triggers an informal process where they get an opportunity to inspect and do repairs.   Nothing to lose by initiating the process.

We emailed them a few weeks ago and they said snow guards are not required in Denver so we can go pound sand. It just seems like our new build warranty mentions working gutters and roof and they clearly don't work. 

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26 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

We emailed them a few weeks ago and they said snow guards are not required in Denver so we can go pound sand. It just seems like our new build warranty mentions working gutters and roof and they clearly don't work. 

Yeah, they'll argue it's a betterment, but if you can get someone to say that the way the roof is designed the gutters are inadequate, it's still a defect.   Builders suck.  It's why I have a successful career.   

You don't want to sue them in small claims.   If you sue in district or superior court, they have to hire a lawyer.   That's more than the $6K for the gutters.   Make the demand and explain the cost/benefit ratio of why they should work with you.

Initiate the formal process.  Cite the statute, use whatever magic language it has.  That makes it a known claim, which puts them in a position where technically they have to tender it to their insurance carrier.  They don't want to do that over a few thousand bucks.  

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1 hour ago, Bucky86 said:

Does anyone have any experience with Colorado Construction law?

We bought 1/2 a duplex with a metal roof that has a sharp pitch to it's roof. After it snows the metal roof heats up quickly causing all the snow on the roof to flow into the gutters. This makes them fill up and creates dripping icicles and chunks of snow dropping onto the pathway to our door. Since it's a duplex, we have to coordinate with the other owner to install snow guards on the roof to fix it. It's not cheap. The issue is they don't live in their unit and instead rent it out. We got the quotes to fix it, but they want to try and sue the builder in small claims court for the $6k to fix it. 

I'd rather just be done with it and get it fixed since we have to live with it, but they wanna go down that path first. Obviously, I'd like the builder to fix it, but is there any way this works? Or is it tough luck? If anything, the stupid roof installer should've put it on IMO.

Frustrating.

:angry: 

Get rid of the gutter or parts of the gutter?

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27 minutes ago, -fish- said:

Yeah, they'll argue it's a betterment, but if you can get someone to say that the way the roof is designed the gutters are inadequate, it's still a defect.   Builders suck.  It's why I have a successful career.   

You don't want to sue them in small claims.   If you sue in district or superior court, they have to hire a lawyer.   That's more than the $6K for the gutters.   Make the demand and explain the cost/benefit ratio of why they should work with you.

Initiate the formal process.  Cite the statute, use whatever magic language it has.  That makes it a known claim, which puts them in a position where technically they have to tender it to their insurance carrier.  They don't want to do that over a few thousand bucks.  

Would we have to hire an attorney to write this up?

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8 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Would we have to hire an attorney to write this up?

Technically nobody had to hire an attorney to do anything.   Usually you get better results when you hire a lawyer skilled in the field you're in, but often that's an economically negative proposition.    In this case, it's not that difficult to initiate the process.   Look up the Colorado Construction Defect Action Reform Act, find the section on notice of claim and right to cure, and write a demand letter using the language in the statute.   In most states, you need to send a certified letter.

Here's a Colorado firm describing the process.   

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On 2/2/2019 at 5:15 PM, Mr.Pack said:

Question for the Lawyer guys......

I'm not the suing type but this has my blood boiling and is costing me money...... My wife had a hip replaced back in July. The hip itself is good now, but part of the incision never healed. She went back to the doctor 3 weeks after surgery and he said he didnt know what was going on, that mostly it was because she's overweight. the bulge kept getting bigger, opened once and drained like crazy, then her skin flaked off, but it closed up.

It started growing again and was painful. Went back to the surgeon in Dec. He didn't even look at it, had is PA look at it and told her, she didn't know, but it wasn't anything major. The doctor once again stated it was because she was overweight.

A few weeks ago she went to see a dermatologist, he wouldn't touch it because he didn't do the surgery, went to a walk-in clinic, and they wouldn't do anything but suggested she see her primary. She went to see her, and the doctor was livid no one would touch her. By now it's was still growing. So her doctor cut it open, instant relief. She feels the incision was never sutured properly and her incision was now herniated and tissue growing out of it and told her she should see a Plastic Surgeon to get it fixed. It's been draining for 3 weeks now and I've been changing her dressing twice a day. Last Weds it burst, I won't tell you what came out of it, but it was freaking gross. Again she had instant relief. She's finally getting into the Plastic Surgeon this Weds, and hopefully he'll fix her up by the end of the week. But we are talking about another surgery now and more money out of my pocket.

The ego of this surgeon is unreal. He flat out told us when we went back after surgery that there will be no infections or any complications because he will not have that tarnish his record. That he didn't know what the bulge was and that it was because she was overweight.

She has lost muscle in that leg and has a lot of troubles with it, she needs to get muscle back but she can't because she can't exercise because of the open wound.

Is there any malpractice here? I feel so bad for her and the pain and crap she's endured over these past 6 months, It's ridiculous. I've been taking pictures every few days and have everything documented.

Sorry I missed this. PM me if you still need to talk to someone, including what state and who made the hip if you can 

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