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At least it's nice to know you don't have an agenda.
Are you saying this because most of his value will be after his 4 year contract expires?
Nah, I'm just poking fun at bostonfred for repeatedly saying that. He seems to think he knows exactly what his game log is going to look like and how fantasy owners are going to react to it.
So we shouldn't draft him based on some random game logs you created?
Come on, get with the program, clearly because Joique Bell only had more than 8 carries once in the first half of the season, and 1 TD in just two of the next seven games after his opening game outburst, Hill is fated to put up the exact same numbers in lock step fashion.
Normally this is the juncture at which I would recommend you go back and read thru the last 2 pages of the thread. However, I like you too much for that torture and it would more than likely only result in massive confusion anyway. The gist. It's a barb at bostonfred for repeatedly claiming, in various fashions, that there is basically no room on a fantasy roster for RB2 types. Only stacked teams are acceptable and therefor all teams must have multiple RB1s or the roster is poisoned.
That's not how I interpreted his message. He's saying inconsistent RB2's are toxic, not RB2's in general... That's how I took it, and I actually agree with him in a general sense.
Hope so saber
He's not going to be confused with Gio but is a capable and I'd say good receiver. LSU didn't use him much that way but he's got pretty good hands from the action I saw and looked natural catching passes at the combine. Pass protection is always a bit dicey for rookies. I would expect Hill to be ahead of the learning curve thanks to his offense at LSU which used a pro-style passing attack.
So we're buying Hill as a borderline RB2 out of the gate? Is that the correct read of the thread here?
Maybe not right out of the gate. But I think he gets there soon. I like his talent. I like his situation.
I'm littered throughout this thread as liking the situation, and I like Hill quite a bit. Curious how much others are willing to trust him from the get go... Bengals have kept his usage rather under wraps in preseason action, though he's performed. BJGE still running ahead of him in games is confusing to me, but Hue's statement seems to indicte they're about ready to take the training wheels off.
Agreed Zam but I didnt draft Gio for the touchdowns, I took him for the PPR performances. Sort of like the poor mans Forte. I agree with the ones here saying he is going a bit to high but in a PPR if you can get him no earlier than the 3rd in a 12 team ppr, its good value.
Not really. In Hugh's system, like in OAK, I believe OAK was top 3-4 in Rushing plays so if it stays the course in CIN, I would be very comfortable having one or the other depending on your league requirments. Like I said earlier, in a PPR you want Gio no doubt but I would grab Hill not just as a backup but as a flex as well for some weeks.
No. The main reason is that there is no Cam Newton to syphon off roughly 700 yds and 7 TDs on the ground per season.
The Bengals had 481 attempts in 2013.
True, looking at Williams/Stewart's best statistical seasons together was 2009/2010. Everything's statistically rushing wise has gone downhill since 2011, the year Cam was drafted.
this is a pretty bad way to approach and analyze. it is actually totally arbitrary to make these cutoffs for desirable rb. rb 12 is great to have when you are loaded at other positions and/or also have rb13. rb12 is great to draft when no other options would have finished close to that. likewise with rb 24 or rb27 or whatever. its about picking the best players available. its about building the best team possible. if you load up on wr and then draft rb12 in the 5th round, then that is a huge coup. if i project a guy to finish as rb 12, and he is going very late, then he is a player you should target.
Could be wrong, but I think BJGE got the bulk of the short yardage TDs as the season progressed.
No he didn't. The oline looked terrible. Let's wait until the season starts before we throw dirt on Gio.
What are you talking about? I'm watching the game right now on DVR, and Gio looks fine. Does he look electric? No, but he's hitting the hole hard, catching the ball, making a good first cut, and picking up his pass blocking assignments. The OL isn't exactly helping him out.
