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Jeremy Hill, RB (LVR) (2 Viewers)
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Exactly why I bit the bullet and dropped Hill. If he goes off later in the season I have no regrets because it gives me peace of mind. It also allows me to play better weekly options based upon matchups instead of blindly inserting a guy that was supposed to be a stud and FBG's keeps promoting higher than anybody should.Keith1 said:
whiskey7
Footballguy
Certainly he hasn't played like his owners expected so far but he's still the #24 RB in my leagues. Benchable for the time being? Sure. Droppable? No way, IMO. Good offense/team that loves to run the ball and wants him to get to where he was last season. I think patient Hill owners will be rewarded...
Who did you drop him for?
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Papa John's
Footballguy
Can't believe they are not running more with a back who is averaging 5.5 yds per carry. Ugh
Or, trust Andy "big game" Dalton.
Easy choice imho. Over coaching in this one.
Or, trust Andy "big game" Dalton.
Easy choice imho. Over coaching in this one.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Weird game.
The Bengals had averaged 410 total yards and 30 points per game over the 1st 6 weeks. Dalton throws a couple interceptions and the offese has 309 yards and 16 points.
If Ben doesn't throw 3 interceptions himself the Bengals might have lost this game. Even without Ben they have been scoring 24 points per game.
The Bengals had averaged 410 total yards and 30 points per game over the 1st 6 weeks. Dalton throws a couple interceptions and the offese has 309 yards and 16 points.
If Ben doesn't throw 3 interceptions himself the Bengals might have lost this game. Even without Ben they have been scoring 24 points per game.
Buzzbait
Footballguy
The digs on Dalton are getting old and are unfounded. This isn't the Dalton of previous years.
He looks better for sure. I still they're going to want to take some pressure off of him as weather gets colder and get closer to the playoffs.
duaneok66
Footballguy
jurb26
Footballguy
Yeah, but he didn't really have a good game today.
georg013
Footballguy
Right before your eyes amigo if you are willing to look. Today is proof positive.
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Hill had more touches, however I don't know if today was a great endorsement for Hill going forward. Game flow dictates their usage. The offense has been much better all year with Gio as the primary guy. Today, Cincy had their worst game offensively and what was the one thing that was different? Gio was somehow forgotten about. This year when Cincy is down, in hurry up or looking to get better flow it has been with Gio.georg013 said:
Hill had some nice runs today but at the end of the day it was a sub par day. 15 carries for 60 yards for a 4 ypc average and 1 reception for 8 yards. For Hill owners it is a good sign that they want to get Hill going. But for Cincy as a team they may want to evaluate what is their best play going forward.
jurb26
Footballguy
You can't be this bias.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Hill was decent today, and Dalton was bad; I am not disputing that.
Here is what I am getting at though. Gio is under appreciated in the shark pool specifically by the Hill owners. When Gio is in the game Cincy looks more dangerous and dynamic because of his versatility. He is running extremely well inside and outside. He also poses a much larger threat than Hill as a receiving back and they will line him up and go empty set and actually throw to him. This versatility opens up other things on O. The D has to account for a lot more when Gio is in the game.
This is not last year running the ball Hill we are talking about. We are talking about you saying it was a good game out of Hill who just averaged 4.0 ypc.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
People keep saying this. Hill had some nice runs today like a starting NFL rb should have, but at the end of the day it was just an ok game for him.Tool said:
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
I am not being objective?
OK. No need to continue if you can't be objective. Continue your crusade in the Gio thread, then.
You say Hill looked good today, while I said he looked decent. Both of those are subjective. The only thing objective we can go by is stats and in NFL and in fantasy Hill's numbers were both below average. Am I missing something?
Yes. It was a big win for Cin.,this win and Hills contribution (fantasy #'s aside) as part of the game plan bodes well for his use moving forward.I am not being objective?
OK. No need to continue if you can't be objective. Continue your crusade in the Gio thread, then.
You say Hill looked good today, while I said he looked decent. Both of those are subjective. The only thing objective we can go by is stats and in NFL and in fantasy Hill's numbers were both below average. Am I missing something?
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Hill is always going to be a part of the game plan but some games more than others.Yes. It was a big win for Cin.,this win and Hills contribution (fantasy #'s aside) as part of the game plan bodes well for his use moving forward.I am not being objective?
OK. No need to continue if you can't be objective. Continue your crusade in the Gio thread, then.
You say Hill looked good today, while I said he looked decent. Both of those are subjective. The only thing objective we can go by is stats and in NFL and in fantasy Hill's numbers were both below average. Am I missing something?
I have been on record from the summer that Hill is being overrated due to playing alongside a very good RB in Gio. Keep in mind Hill was in the discussion for being the first rb taken in dynasty drafts and he was drafted in the 1st round in pretty much all redrafts this year. So at this stage he has underperformed greatly. I do think Hill by himself with a chance to develop an all around game would be studly. He had a historic run last year that proved he has that ability. He has a rare combo of speed and power and a chance to develop as a good check down option out of the backfield.
I also think Gio has a chance to be a very good all around stud RB. Both guys value for the time being is limited by playing along side each other. Gio at the present time is a more versatile RB and has outplayed Hill so far this year. Keeping in mind this is not hate against Hill, it is what the numbers and film have shown. I know that Hill still at any stage can have a monster game (s) as he has that ability. Hill is also viewed as the prototypical rb to carry larger loads due to his size, however I think that guys have proven you don't have to be 230 plus pounds to be feature guys.
georg013
Footballguy
I appreciate that, in such a close game, they continued to give Hill the ball. Furthermore, he was able to a reach that 4.0 ypc we measure all RBs against. You see, Jeremy Hill was set to be buried on the depth chart with Gio being the guy going forward. But alas, Hill was leaned on today giving hope to Hill owners. Forgive us if we dont want every positive immediately met with a negative.
Hill did well ..... Yes, BUT
They still have confidence in him.... Yes, BUT
He averaged over 4.0 ypc.... Yes, BUT
Thats all
Hill did well ..... Yes, BUT
They still have confidence in him.... Yes, BUT
He averaged over 4.0 ypc.... Yes, BUT
Thats all
Papa John's
Footballguy
Nope. Running game was working. Dalton wasn't. It's really that simple boys. Without the Ben error, they lose because they should have been running it more ... Not because of the ginger haired kid.duaneok66 said:
He was averaging 5.0 ypc until their last drive, when everyone and their mother knew they were going to run the ball.
georg013
Footballguy
Not good enough. Especially with guys like Gurley running wild.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Dalton hits his receiver in stride in the hands and the ball pops up and gets intercepted, so Dalton had a bad game?
jurb26
Footballguy
Dalton's pick in the end zone was a terrible throw. It was right at the S. Why are you ignoring that one?
Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
Paul Dehner Jr.
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Hue Jackson said was really happy with Jeremy Hill last week (had two longest runs of year): "The arrow is pointing up."
11:12 AM - 3 Nov 2015
✔@pauldehnerjr
Hue Jackson said was really happy with Jeremy Hill last week (had two longest runs of year): "The arrow is pointing up."
11:12 AM - 3 Nov 2015
socrates
Footballguy
FWIW: I am starting Hill (with little confidence) over Dion Lewis (in PPR, no less). You have gotta love the matchup, but Hill has given us no reason to trust him.Anybody starting Hill tomorrow?
I have him on the bench but im tempted to put him in. If i bench him i have to start Murray, Lacy or Mike Evans in my flex. The Bengals like to toss the ball around too much lol.
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Sir Psycho
Footballguy
In over Ivory.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Me too. Let's hope we don't regret this.Sir Psycho said:
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Starting him over Blount for the first time in weeks.
degenerate
Footballguy
Currently have him in over Langford, but I've been flip flopping. This will drive me nuts all day.
