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Fargo TV series on FX - season 3 starts TONIGHT 4/19!!! (2 Viewers)
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aardball44
Footballguy
Watched the first 20 minutes of Raising Arizona last night, mostly to look for correlations between it and the Fargo TV series. (I saw many references to Coen Bros films as I watched the series, but forgot about Raising Arizona as a CB film.)
- Nathan the Furniture King = Minnesota's Supermarket King? They both aired cheesy local TV commercials hyping their businesses, both character arcs hinged on their love for their son.
- Edwina the Cop desperately wanted a baby. I kept waiting for her to smell the baby they kidnapped, like Molly the Cop did when she visited the Chief's widow in Fargo...but she didn't do that in the first 20 minutes at least. No strong correlation other than that, IMHO.
Was hoping for more, and should have watched the whole movie to complete the process.
- Nathan the Furniture King = Minnesota's Supermarket King? They both aired cheesy local TV commercials hyping their businesses, both character arcs hinged on their love for their son.
- Edwina the Cop desperately wanted a baby. I kept waiting for her to smell the baby they kidnapped, like Molly the Cop did when she visited the Chief's widow in Fargo...but she didn't do that in the first 20 minutes at least. No strong correlation other than that, IMHO.
Was hoping for more, and should have watched the whole movie to complete the process.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Happened in the movie.JaxBill said:Was that in the story and I missed it? Probably not all that common but it happened to a "kid" here. Nasty way to go.
Which confuses me... Both the movie and the show were based on a true story, but during different decades. The stories seem too similar to be separate happenings.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah, not really.Happened in the movie.JaxBill said:
Which confuses me... Both the movie and the show were based on a true story, but during different decades. The stories seem too similar to be separate happenings.
coyote5
Footballguy
You should watch it because it's an awesome movie, not to sleuth out correlations between two unrelated movies 27 years apart. I think there might be a movie called Fargo or something. Maybe check out that lead?
3C's
Footballguy
Yeah, apparently that's their little "joke".Yeah, not really.Happened in the movie.JaxBill said:
Which confuses me... Both the movie and the show were based on a true story, but during different decades. The stories seem too similar to be separate happenings.
Never saw the movie so didn't know the wood chipper was in there.
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
No way.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
3C's
Footballguy
guilty. it's on my todo list but won't be this weekend for sure.Anyone in this thread who hasn't seen Fargo THE MOVIE needs to watch it by this weekend.
It's mandatory homework.
I expect a full report on my desk by Monday.
aardball44
Footballguy
I've seen Raising Arizona more than once, but not in the last five years. I've seen every Coen Brothers film at least once, most of them multiple times. I've been rewatching Fargo the series to cross-reference it against everything in the Coen catalog because I think that's what they did, along with Noah Hawley, when they put their efforts into the show.
Think comparing anything the Coen Bros. did to this series is pretty fruitless. They didn't write nor direct. What did they really do? Just give the rights and recommend some people?
I ended up enjoying this series/season. But comparing it to True Detective? Come on.
Fargo was a ridiculous network cop show, like The Following, spruced up with some great actors and cinematography. That said the actors and cinematography were terrific and made for an entertaining show. But story-wise and how the characters proceed it's just as silly.
I ended up enjoying this series/season. But comparing it to True Detective? Come on.
Fargo was a ridiculous network cop show, like The Following, spruced up with some great actors and cinematography. That said the actors and cinematography were terrific and made for an entertaining show. But story-wise and how the characters proceed it's just as silly.
You can't go 10 minutes in either Fargo or The Following without saying, "ok, no one would do that."
That doesn't happen with a great show. In a great show you don't need Billy Bob, on the lamb, rolling around in a red BMW for Colin Hanks to recognize him. You write something plausible.
Odenkirk's character? No great show has a clown character like that. I was hoping he was a bad guy and their was a reason for his bizarre behavior. Nope.
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identikit
Footballguy
3C's
Footballguy
He's not saying Odenkirk is/was a clown but the character (the police chief) in the show was a clown. You just don't make chief of police being that big of an idiot.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Fargo =dark humor......
- Tongue-in-cheek is a figure of speech used to imply that a statement or other production is humorously or otherwise not seriously intended, and it should not be taken at face value. The facial expression typically indicates that one is joking or making a mental effort.
snogger
Footballguy
Fargo was a "Tongue in cheek, dark humor, crime" show.. If True Detective was meant to be a "True" detective show.., then the only way to compare it to Fargo should be made based on the entertainment factor.
In regards to the Chief character... He only became chief due to seniority.. Not because he was "the best one for the job".. Truth is he let his personal relationship with Lester overrule the truth.. that and a woman of all people was trying to prove him wrong.
The chief, before he died, told her that he would be recommending her as replacement as the other guy just didn't have "it".. Unfortunately he died before he could make the recommendation and thus Seniority overruled common sense.
Besides, IMO, the show would have lost some of the entertainment factor if not for the Bumbling, blind to the truth, chief.
3C's
Footballguy
coyote5
Footballguy
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
Josie Maran
Footballguy
I laughed at the fights between Cole and Marty.
"Let's just say I'm not real good at parties."
"Well you ain't real good outside of parties either."
pantherclub
Footballguy
Celph Titled
Footballguy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKf8FBWZi2gI laughed at the fights between Cole and Marty.
"Let's just say I'm not real good at parties."
"Well you ain't real good outside of parties either."
Josie Maran
Footballguy
I laughed at the fights between Cole and Marty.
"Well you ain't real good outside of parties either."
identikit
Footballguy
Saul 2.0He's not saying Odenkirk is/was a clown but the character (the police chief) in the show was a clown. You just don't make chief of police being that big of an idiot.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Actually Saul was pretty cleverSaul 2.0He's not saying Odenkirk is/was a clown but the character (the police chief) in the show was a clown. You just don't make chief of police being that big of an idiot.
identikit
Footballguy
Agreed,Actually Saul was pretty cleverSaul 2.0He's not saying Odenkirk is/was a clown but the character (the police chief) in the show was a clown. You just don't make chief of police being that big of an idiot.
Though both were pretty exaggerated characters.
identikit
Footballguy
snogger
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
snogger said:identikit said:
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Season 2: Hart and Cohle Go Ice Fishin'.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
It's an entirely new cast/story. Why are they even calling it Fargo?
Dan Gladden's Mustache
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
A lot of reasons, but the most important is the it makes it easier to get more viewers. Same reason the show was named after an essentially unrelated movie with different creators.
Because there's a good chance that much of the story will take place in Minnesota, which, geographically speaking, is basically indistinguishable from Fargo.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Brady Marino
Footballguy
'Tis true. Went through Fargo on the way to the Twin Cities a couple times the past year and you can't tell west-central Minnesota apart from the Fargo area. Lots of boring nothingness.
Minny is pretty in parts, just not the western part.
^ This. SE Minnesota down around Winona is incredible with all those river bluffs...and NE Minnesota "up on the range" is beautiful in an entirely different way. But yes, Western Minnesota...from Canada down to Iowa, is one big corn/soybean field.'Tis true. Went through Fargo on the way to the Twin Cities a couple times the past year and you can't tell west-central Minnesota apart from the Fargo area. Lots of boring nothingness.
Minny is pretty in parts, just not the western part.
But that's no different than heading a few hundred miles West/South...as once you get out in that area, you wouldn't know if you're in Minnesota, Nebraska, or most of Iowa.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Ok I'm a city boy and really I'm ok with being compared to North Dakota or Nebraska, but let's leave Iowa out of this, ok?^ This. SE Minnesota down around Winona is incredible with all those river bluffs...and NE Minnesota "up on the range" is beautiful in an entirely different way. But yes, Western Minnesota...from Canada down to Iowa, is one big corn/soybean field.'Tis true. Went through Fargo on the way to the Twin Cities a couple times the past year and you can't tell west-central Minnesota apart from the Fargo area. Lots of boring nothingness.
Minny is pretty in parts, just not the western part.
Dan Gladden's Mustache
Footballguy
Easy there, Radar.Ok I'm a city boy and really I'm ok with being compared to North Dakota or Nebraska, but let's leave Iowa out of this, ok?^ This. SE Minnesota down around Winona is incredible with all those river bluffs...and NE Minnesota "up on the range" is beautiful in an entirely different way. But yes, Western Minnesota...from Canada down to Iowa, is one big corn/soybean field.'Tis true. Went through Fargo on the way to the Twin Cities a couple times the past year and you can't tell west-central Minnesota apart from the Fargo area. Lots of boring nothingness.Minny is pretty in parts, just not the western part.
msommer
Footballguy
In the first season they alluded to the movie (the money in the snow) and the city (where the goons were based)
Could be they'll do something similar in the second city
ETA and they were using the pace and cinematography from the movie as well, as well as a similarly wacky murder storyline
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Zow
Footballguy
Just like San Diego is pretty much indistinguishable from Yuma.
Softballguy
Footballguy
Just heard on the radio that season two will be the backstory of Lou Solverson.
Dan Gladden's Mustache
Footballguy
Jackstraw
Footballguy
I totally disagree that a show has to completely mirror reality in order to be great.
I've heard similar criticisms of Tarantino's work. If I want reality I'll turn on the six oclock news.
