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Dynasty & Redraft: RB Charles Sims, Buccaneers (1 Viewer)
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Redraft PPR:
Went ahead and cut bait today for Jon Stewart of all guys. Remaining schedule & that Stewart's running better right now than he has in years were primary reasons.
Tampa 4 of final 6 on road. I just don't think he pushes aside Rainey completely in pass game this year. His running skills don't really stand out & if the rumor above it's committee, I just don't think the value's there to have any sort of confidence starting @Det, @Car, vs. GB during fantasy playoff time.
Went ahead and cut bait today for Jon Stewart of all guys. Remaining schedule & that Stewart's running better right now than he has in years were primary reasons.
Tampa 4 of final 6 on road. I just don't think he pushes aside Rainey completely in pass game this year. His running skills don't really stand out & if the rumor above it's committee, I just don't think the value's there to have any sort of confidence starting @Det, @Car, vs. GB during fantasy playoff time.
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Forsett's on bye. I just need one what-the-hey type week from Sims. 
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm starting Stewart over him as my RB3 in PPR this week but I still think it's too soon to cut bait with Sims. Role is about to grow and if he starts getting more involved in the passing game (which really needs to happen given his skill set) he could end up being very productive in PPR leagues.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Having a Missouri attitude towards Sims. "Show me" first. Then I'll give you the start.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Holding in PPR redraft, but I'm concerned his usage won't ever be enough to be fantasy startable this year.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
4-25 so far...looking better today.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Charles Sims rushed 13 times for 36 yards in Sunday's Week 11 win over the Redskins.
Bobby Rainey started, but Sims played the majority of snaps this week. He had 16 touches compared to Rainey's five carries. Despite being talked up as a potential starter, Sims has looked like a middling talent that's best suited for a third-down role. The Bucs running scheme -- and not Doug Martin -- has been the bigger problem this season. Nov 16 - 5:08 PM
Bobby Rainey started, but Sims played the majority of snaps this week. He had 16 touches compared to Rainey's five carries. Despite being talked up as a potential starter, Sims has looked like a middling talent that's best suited for a third-down role. The Bucs running scheme -- and not Doug Martin -- has been the bigger problem this season. Nov 16 - 5:08 PM
RamMan
Footballguy
For those who follow the Bucs, what are the chances that Martin comes back in the next week or two and re-asserts himself as the starter? It's not like Sims, Rainey, or James have done much behind that line to claim the job. I've been trying to find current info on Martin and haven't seen much (just that he returned to practice last week in a very limited fashion). Will this backfield continue to be a compete mess or do you think Sims will eventually pull away to claim at least a lion's share of the touches?
packersfan
Footballguy
10 touches in first game
16 touches in second game
Even if Rainey still "starts" it seems clear Sims is the new lead back. Matchup this week is against a Chicago defense that ranks in the middle of the pack against the run but isn't a shut-down group by any means. Given his receiving ability, I could see Sims reaching low-end RB2 production in PPR this week, especially if he gets closer to 20 touches.
16 touches in second game
Even if Rainey still "starts" it seems clear Sims is the new lead back. Matchup this week is against a Chicago defense that ranks in the middle of the pack against the run but isn't a shut-down group by any means. Given his receiving ability, I could see Sims reaching low-end RB2 production in PPR this week, especially if he gets closer to 20 touches.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Him or Boom Herron for a diceroll for me with Bradshaw injury. Like the touches despite the lack of production so I am going Sims. Evans can't go for 200 every week right?
packersfan
Footballguy
He might. He's pretty darn good.Him or Boom Herron for a diceroll for me with Bradshaw injury. Like the touches despite the lack of production so I am going Sims. Evans can't go for 200 every week right?
Not to turn this into a WDIS discussion but I don't see how you can start a guy who could get 3-4 touches over someone who is locked into double digits with upwards of 20 realistic. Herron could come through because nutty things will happen in this game but his floor is considerably lower than Sims' in my opinion.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Thanks for feedback. I agree.He might. He's pretty darn good.Him or Boom Herron for a diceroll for me with Bradshaw injury. Like the touches despite the lack of production so I am going Sims. Evans can't go for 200 every week right?
Not to turn this into a WDIS discussion but I don't see how you can start a guy who could get 3-4 touches over someone who is locked into double digits with upwards of 20 realistic. Herron could come through because nutty things will happen in this game but his floor is considerably lower than Sims' in my opinion.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I noticed that bump in carries too.
Could get interesting.
Here's what ESPN says about Tampa Bay rookie 3rd round RB Charles Sims:
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packersfan
Footballguy
One of the Bucs beat writers - can't remember which one, sorry - predicted on Twitter that Sims would dominate the touches in Week 11 (which he did) and then become the starter in Week 12. We'll see if that happens.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Any more observations from anyone having seen him play for a bit?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The Bucs had a free shot to claim RB Ben Tate but passed up the chance.
If they had any doubts they easily could have picked up Tate to solidify their backfield.
I can't see that anyway other than a vote of confidence for Tampa Bay RB Charles Sims.
If they had any doubts they easily could have picked up Tate to solidify their backfield.
I can't see that anyway other than a vote of confidence for Tampa Bay RB Charles Sims.
It's too soon to call Sims anything other than a work in progress. The real problem in Tampa is the O Line's blocking.
packersfan
Footballguy
Lovie compared him to Forte again today. Sure would like to see him back that belief up by really integrating Sims into the passing game.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
This train ain't leavin' the station this year, me thinks.
CR69
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It was a helluva run. I'll never forget it.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
PPR:
I'd avoid unless you just have a free bench slot. I'd never be comfortable starting him this year so I cut bait last week. Don't think he's any better runner than Martin.
I had him on my watch list for redraft thinking they'd use him quite a bit as receiver. Seems Rainey still holds that role.
I'd avoid unless you just have a free bench slot. I'd never be comfortable starting him this year so I cut bait last week. Don't think he's any better runner than Martin.
I had him on my watch list for redraft thinking they'd use him quite a bit as receiver. Seems Rainey still holds that role.
Jack White
Footballguy
Not sure what you can expect from a guy who gets 8 touches on a team that manages only one TD against a horrible defense.
packersfan
Footballguy
So much for all the reports from people like Caplan and others that said the Bucs loved Sims and were going to take a good look at him the rest of the season.
Sometimes you take a shot on a guy and it pans out. Sometimes it doesn't. This time it didn't. Time to hit the WW again and move on.
Sometimes you take a shot on a guy and it pans out. Sometimes it doesn't. This time it didn't. Time to hit the WW again and move on.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
No idea why they would cut Martin. In the final year of his rookie contract. Low $$$ contract, decent enough player. Depth if they don't want him to start. It's not like he can't play at all like some rookie(s) that would take his spot.
georg013
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
1600 total yards and 10 touchdowns this season.
in my dreams
in my dreams
Donnybrook
Footballguy
This has got to be the ideal time to trade for Doug Martin.
Banger
Footballguy
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Nothing has really changed since last year except for some beat writer spit ballin. I am not buying it when the players haven't even started OTAs.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Just looking at the game logs for the three primary RB from 2014
Doug Martin
This is really unremarkable performance aside from two games late in the season against Carolina and the Saints. He missed game 2 and 3 early on in the season and then games 8-10 in the middle of it.
In the season opener Martin goes 9 carries for 9 yards against Carolina then misses the next two games. After he returns Martin does not get more than 15 carries until game 12 against the Bengals which was a close contest. Martin gets 18 carries 58 yards and a TD.
Martin had 20 targets in his 11 games which is 1.8 targets/game
Bobby Rainey
Rainey only missed one game over the course of the season.
Rainey filled in for Martin during game 2 and 3 when Martin was first out. He had an excellent game week 2 against the Rams and then in game 3 against the Falcons, he isn't used as much as a runner, but does catch 7 of 8 targets for 64 receiving yards, giving him 100 combined yards in this game. After this Martin comes back his performance falls off after that until week 8 where he gets 19 carries for 87 yards. game 8 is also the first week Martin missed after coming back in game four.
Rainey is used more as a receiver than Martin. He had 45 targets which is 3 targets/game
His targets in the passing game fall off after Sims returns in week 9. 31 of the 45 targets occurred while Sims was out. Rainey does get 5 targets in game 9 against the Falcons (1st week Sims is back) and 6 targets in game 11 against the Bears but seems to be behind Sims for that role after this.
Charles Sims
Due to Sims injury he does not see action until game 9 of the season. He does not get used much as a runner until the final game of the season against the Saints where he had 18 carries for 69 yards and a TD.
Sims had 27 targets during those 8 games which is 3.4 targets/game
In total there were 93 targets to RB in 2014 which was 17.8% of the total targets. Sims had the most targets/game out of the three RB
Doug Martin
This is really unremarkable performance aside from two games late in the season against Carolina and the Saints. He missed game 2 and 3 early on in the season and then games 8-10 in the middle of it.
In the season opener Martin goes 9 carries for 9 yards against Carolina then misses the next two games. After he returns Martin does not get more than 15 carries until game 12 against the Bengals which was a close contest. Martin gets 18 carries 58 yards and a TD.
Martin had 20 targets in his 11 games which is 1.8 targets/game
Bobby Rainey
Rainey only missed one game over the course of the season.
Rainey filled in for Martin during game 2 and 3 when Martin was first out. He had an excellent game week 2 against the Rams and then in game 3 against the Falcons, he isn't used as much as a runner, but does catch 7 of 8 targets for 64 receiving yards, giving him 100 combined yards in this game. After this Martin comes back his performance falls off after that until week 8 where he gets 19 carries for 87 yards. game 8 is also the first week Martin missed after coming back in game four.
Rainey is used more as a receiver than Martin. He had 45 targets which is 3 targets/game
His targets in the passing game fall off after Sims returns in week 9. 31 of the 45 targets occurred while Sims was out. Rainey does get 5 targets in game 9 against the Falcons (1st week Sims is back) and 6 targets in game 11 against the Bears but seems to be behind Sims for that role after this.
Charles Sims
Due to Sims injury he does not see action until game 9 of the season. He does not get used much as a runner until the final game of the season against the Saints where he had 18 carries for 69 yards and a TD.
Sims had 27 targets during those 8 games which is 3.4 targets/game
In total there were 93 targets to RB in 2014 which was 17.8% of the total targets. Sims had the most targets/game out of the three RB
