Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
I used to like Star Trek: The Next Penetration. It came on late night.
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Star Trek: Discovery | Premieres September 24, 2017 (1 Viewer)
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Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
It's TOS by a country mile over everything else.
TNG is borderline unwatchable. Kids on the Enterprise? Klingons on the Enterprise? A grief counselor? No hard drinking engineer? GTFOH
Kirk would kick Picard's candy ### and still have left overto shag Troi, Troi's mom, Dr. Crusher AND the ghost of that green-skinned chick.
* drops mic *
TNG is borderline unwatchable. Kids on the Enterprise? Klingons on the Enterprise? A grief counselor? No hard drinking engineer? GTFOH
Kirk would kick Picard's candy ### and still have left overto shag Troi, Troi's mom, Dr. Crusher AND the ghost of that green-skinned chick.
* drops mic *
captain_amazing
Footballguy
GregR
Footballguy
It isn't the trailer for the Star Trek Beyond.
According to the comments from people it was a trailer from an indy film Star Trek Renegades.
Edit to add: Here's the actual trailer, with the real actors in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVD32rnzOw
According to the comments from people it was a trailer from an indy film Star Trek Renegades.
Edit to add: Here's the actual trailer, with the real actors in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVD32rnzOw
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Chaka
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Didn't even look at tHe link. I had just seen the Beyond trailer recently.
Renegades is a film idea backed by Walter Koenig that he is trying to get picked up by Paramount. Seems decent for an independent work but a long shot for him to get it through.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
My bad - I saw the real trailer but got the link elsewhere and figured it was what it said it was, so I didn't bother playing it.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I will see it because I'm a sucker for Star Trek. But I'm reading that the guy that JJ let direct is a Fast and Furious guy. And that the script was reworked a bunch of a times and eventually Simon Pegg lead the team to finish it and they specifically tried to make it a movie set in Star Trek universe instead of a Star Trek movie, which doesn't sound good. Hopefully that is all rumor and that in the end it's a good movie. Would hate for them to make a flop with this new cast.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Seems like they feel like they have to have that big moment in every movie now, which then in turn ruins that moment. It was a big deal when the Enterprise took a beating in the original movies because it didn't happen often. They at times went through several movies without the thing having a shot fired at it. Now every movie it gets blown to within a quarter inch of exploding and it's supposed to have this emotional impact that it misses because we're so used to seeing it.
Same thing with Star Wars and crazy over the top lightsaber battles every 15 minutes of screen time ever since ROTJ ended.
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BowieMercs
Footballguy
DS9 was the best of the lot. Voyager was the absolute worst. Not even 7 of 9 could save that dog.
Insein
Footballguy
Voyager had potential. I watched the first 4 seasons or so. Then it went off the rails.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Knowing that The Inner Light is unquestionably the best TNG episode and arguably one of the best Star Trek episodes, I think the TNG two part Chain of Command episode is a strong contender for the second best episode of that series and likely top 15 or 20 of all time. I think it was possibly Patrick Stewart's best performance among any of the episodes. I think the duet between him and his interrogator, David Warner, was very compelling.
skol asylum
Footballguy
I only watched the first couple episodes of Voyager but couldn't get past how annoying Janeway was and couldn't continue.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
TNG will always be my favorite because I grew up with it. DS9 was brilliant though. Voyager was solid/average. It had truly fun moments but there was a lot of meh. Enterprise had the potential to be really great but it was always missing something. And the original is just that - the original. No problems with it at all given its time and space when released.
I would be game a new TV show though. Even a new Enterprise crew with Admiral Riker sending them off on their journeys.
skol asylum
Footballguy
IIRC they are doing a new Star Trek on CBS, but it's going to be online streaming only. Dumb.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Well the fact that they have been willing to blow up the Enterprise in the past which means we don't really know if it will blow up again or not. Heck since it's an alternative timeline they could even kill off a crew member if they wanted to (I'm looking at you Mr. Chekov).
Chaka
Footballguy
Interesting. I don't think Voyager was even on the rails until the end of season 3, then it seemed to grow up and become interesting.
Chaka
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I don't know if I agree that Inner Light was the best episode. Darmok and Jelad at Tennagra is damn good and the one with the parasites that took over Star Fleet was really really good.
BowieMercs
Footballguy
That episode (Darmok...) was also Ashley Judd's first role, so in addition to being the "always be closing" of TNG, its got an extra trivia kick to it.
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Chaka
Footballguy
That one never did anything for me. Seemed like something they were going to explore further but then realized it was lame and let it die.
skol asylum
Footballguy
I'm going to have to watch all the Star Trek shows on Netflix now. Of course after i finally watch a million other shows in my queue.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
The internet rumor is that that episode was supposed to be the beginning of the Borg and the homing signal that was sent at the end was to the rest of the Borg, but somewhere along the way they changed the parasites into assimilates.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Was this the last episode of season 1 or 2? The one where the freakin puppet alien is found inside the torso of the officers? If so, it was one of the worst episodes, IMO. Absolutely hated it. It felt cartoonish.Yankee23Fan said:
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Indonagree about the Darmok episode. It is definitely top 5 TNG, arguably top 3. I have no qualms with anyone placing it as number 1 either.Yankee23Fan said:
Chaka
Footballguy
Yup. The whole super advanced space slug/parasite thing has always been a weird concept to me. They can't build or pilot space vessels but they are an existential threat to the Federation? Nope.
As much as the early seasons of TNG are made fun of now (great plot in the parasite episode, very poor execution) they did some good stuff like The Defector. Q Who was one of the few really outstanding early episodes that ranks up there with the later great ones like Darmok or Inner Light or Chain of Command. Introduced the Borg of course, but really showcased how nasty Q could be before they turned him into comic relief. For later episodes not often talked about, I'm also partial to The Wounded which introduced the Cardassians and saw Chief O'Brien show he had acting chops.
DS9 had great episodes too, The Visitor is on the shortlist of my favorite episodes in television ever.
Voyager was trash, they had so much potential with the Maquis crew but quickly turned them into Starfleet goodytoeshoes. Introducing the Borg was fun, but they quickly ruined them with overexposure and terrible plotlines. As the flagship for UPN, Paramount went for special effects and explosions for ratings and the quality really suffered and started the decline. There's a reason Ron Moore (Battlestar reboot genius) stated he could only stomach working two episodes for Voyager.
Enterprise had potential but couldn't stop the downward spiral started by Voyager and UPN's quest for ratings and trying to appeal to the "mainstream" and casual viewers.
DS9 had great episodes too, The Visitor is on the shortlist of my favorite episodes in television ever.
Voyager was trash, they had so much potential with the Maquis crew but quickly turned them into Starfleet goodytoeshoes. Introducing the Borg was fun, but they quickly ruined them with overexposure and terrible plotlines. As the flagship for UPN, Paramount went for special effects and explosions for ratings and the quality really suffered and started the decline. There's a reason Ron Moore (Battlestar reboot genius) stated he could only stomach working two episodes for Voyager.
Enterprise had potential but couldn't stop the downward spiral started by Voyager and UPN's quest for ratings and trying to appeal to the "mainstream" and casual viewers.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Beat me to it. I use this line randomly for different things ... wife just shakes her head.
Yep.
LOVE this episode. Great story, great acting and heart wrenching. Also, it has Tony Todd.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
YEEES!!! Don't know how I missed this, but CBS is starting a new series in 2017.
http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017
http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017
Chaka
Footballguy
Awesome but I really wish it wasn't CBS. Would love to see FX, AMC or even if SciFi could somehow hearken back to whatever mojo the found to make Battlestar Galactica so awesome before the network became all about Sharkzillas and what not.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
An AMC version would be ridiculous. Or HBO or showtime. But CBS owns the rights to the entire franchise, and they probably want to bring in the audience they built with the recent movies.
I think CBS did he original series though, so I'm not worried.
Chaka
Footballguy
It's not that I am worried, I know you can only do so much with Star Trek (no zombie head shots, foul language and the like) but I still think a cable network would be able to explore some of the guaranteed themes that will be retrod (as they are by all television series) with a little more depth and nuance.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Yea, that really interests me. I have to imagine they will be working on the alternative universe in the new films, and I'd guess it would be in Kirk's time but perhaps a different ship.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Dumb to stream only. Will kill the show.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
This has disaster written all over it.
I could buy the streaming only thing if Netflix was doing it. But CBS? I'd have enough concerns over CBS even if it were on TV, streaming will be a disaster. Even if it's good, they'll just freak out that there aren't as many people streaming it as their greedy executives had wet dreams over, make them change it to be a super action romp, and then cancel it when that doesn't bring in any new fans (what ever does?) and scares off all the ones they had left.
I could buy the streaming only thing if Netflix was doing it. But CBS? I'd have enough concerns over CBS even if it were on TV, streaming will be a disaster. Even if it's good, they'll just freak out that there aren't as many people streaming it as their greedy executives had wet dreams over, make them change it to be a super action romp, and then cancel it when that doesn't bring in any new fans (what ever does?) and scares off all the ones they had left.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Not much at all, but I liked the overal visual themes - it already comes off as a bit darker and has a more "real" feeling to it (if we want to try and presume anything off of that teaser).NewlyRetired said:
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Streaming only is a mistake. I'm cool with them wanting to test the waters, but there still are people out there who have minimal interest in streaming. Maybe they should do some sort of streaming it first and then showing it on network or something like that.
