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He's an idiot obviously, but if he keeps playing well it won't matter in the end. I'd say this is right on cam's level of stupidity and he still went #1. Of course cam is bigger physically, but you get what I'm saying.

Oh, I'm sorry but when was Cam accused of rape and theft? I thought his father asked for 200k which was a pretty good bargain for Auburn.

Cam got thrown out of Florida for stealing a laptop.

He actually purchased a hot computer, technically different. He played dumb and said he didn't know, just like he didn't know about the bribe his pop wanted for him to sign with Auburn.

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

I don't know that is such a sure thing anymore with his numerous off field incidents, combined with the PR issues that the NFL has faced this year with Rice and AP. What team picking that high would want to take the risk of making Winston the face of their franchise?

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.

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I am praying for the Bucs to draft him. The kid is a winner.

Me too. The bucs are bumbling fools and this guy would fit right in.....for the 3 years he's there before they cut him.

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That would be a good idea. Maybe this moron will grow up

The sooner he enters the NFL, the quicker he will exit. A colossal bust waiting to happen.

What are you basing this on? His off the field transgressions? On the field he's a baller, all he does is win.

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Rotoworld:

FSU redshirt sophomore QB Jameis Winston will be on the sideline in tonight's game against Clemson despite being suspended for the contest, according to ESPN's Heather Cox.

Cox notes the goal is for Winston to help fill-in quarterback Sean Maguire. Winston's half game suspension was extended into a full game after he reportedly lied to FSU officials about this week's incident in the student union. Maguire has appeared in a handful of games during his career.
Sep 20 - 2:53 PM

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I don't care what this fool's real iq is; he possesses no common sense. Every once and a while when I am bored, I will bring up the good ole crab theft memes and laugh my balls off. This kid is a certified idiot and if I am GM there is no way I am hooking a first round pick onto him.

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YOU GUYS DO REALIZE HE GOT INTO STANFORD RIGHT?!?!

Tone down the racism.
Seriously. How dare that black kid who does some dumb stuff also be booksmart. Edited by Premier

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YOU GUYS DO REALIZE HE GOT INTO STANFORD RIGHT?!?!

Tone down the racism.
Seriously. How dare that black kid who does some dumb stuff also be booksmart.

Where are you guys getting racism out of that comment? :reaching:

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YOU GUYS DO REALIZE HE GOT INTO STANFORD RIGHT?!?!

Tone down the racism.
Seriously. How dare that black kid who does some dumb stuff also be booksmart.

Where are you guys getting racism out of that comment? :reaching:

More out of comments in the FFA thread where I mentioned the Stanford thing.

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.

A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.

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Oh, I don't know then. Sonny isn't a racist though...carry on.

Not many things worse on a message board than people who throw out the race card at any opportunity. This kid Winston is a f-ing moron and he would still be a moron if he were white, Latino, Hmong, or anything else.

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if teams, owners and everyone cannot see the warning signs .... that's their $50 million dollar problem

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.

A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.

Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

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YOU GUYS DO REALIZE HE GOT INTO STANFORD RIGHT?!?!

Tone down the racism.
Seriously. How dare that black kid who does some dumb stuff also be booksmart.

He's also well-spoken and articulate.

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.
A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.

Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

The alleged victim had another man's semen in her panties and on her shorts and a member of FSU cleat chasers. She insinuated she was drugged but no drugs found in her system. She stated she was clubbed in the head but no physical evidence to prove that.

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Peyton Manning is Lucky Social Media Wasn't Around in 1996 When He Allegedly Sat on a Female Trainer's Face

http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/18/peyton-manning-1996-tennessee-lawsuit-trainer-bare-butt-mooning/

Let’s start here: What Jameis Winston did on Florida State’s campus this week was wrong, for multiple reasons. He’s easily the most high-profile member of the student body. Winston won the Heisman Trophy last year, led the Seminoles to the National Championship, and is projected to be a 1st round pick in the 2015 NFL draft, assuming he enters.

He’s also 20 years old, and the idiocy of immature, 20-year old college kids knows no bounds. But Florida State was right – Winston is an ambassador to the University, one who is regularly on television. When he’s standing up on campus shouting obscene things – internet memes or not – that’s a horrible look for the school and Seminoles. His two-quarter suspension was warranted.

As a reminder of how dumb college kids can be, here’s an old story about Peyton Manning – clean cut Peyton Manning! – from his days at Tennessee. One thing to remember: this happened in 1996, when Manning, then a junior, was the star QB for the Volunteers. These were the very early days of the internet. Surely you remember: AOL dial-up, Netscape, chat rooms.

Social media wasn’t a glimmer in the eye of Silicon Valley.

The setting: The Vols training room. Peyton wrote in his book, Manning: A Father, His Sons, a Football Legacy, a “track athlete” made a remark, and he mooned the athlete. He “didn’t think the [female] trainer would see” but when she did, “it seemed like something she’d have laughed at, considering” the locker room environment.

“Crude maybe, but harmless,” were his words. (FSU fans may argue that quote applies to Winston’s explicit comment, except that Manning hadn’t been investigated for rape.)

Manning, for whatever reason, also added in the book that the trainer had a “vulgar mouth.” The trainer, however, told a different version of events in a court filing.

she was examining Manning to see why Manning was having pain in one of his feet and was crouched behind him when “entirely unprovoked, Peyton Manning decided to pull down his shorts and sit on Dr. Naughright’s head and face.”

As Naughright described it in a deposition entered into the court record: “It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the
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and the area in between the
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. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up. … To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off.”

Before you downplay it as a he said/she said, let the record show that the track athlete Manning claimed to have mooned wrote the QB a letter in 2002 saying, “you might as well maintain some dignity and admit what happened … do the right thing here.” Within hours of the incident, the trainer reported it to the Sexual Assault Crisis Center in Knoxville. She reached a settlement with the University in 1997 and left Knoxville.

Why is any of this relevant? In 2001, she was the program director of the Athletic Training Educational Program at Florida Southern College. In 2002, Manning’s book came out and the “vulgar” label hit the trainer. She lost her job as the program director.

Manning settled out of court with the trainer in 2003. She came after Manning again in 2005 after he violated the settlement by talking to ESPN about it.

In 1996, this story doesn’t get out. Even in 2002 the court filing got some attention, but nothing like it would have in 2014.

To recap: College kids have always done really stupid things, and will continue to. In the past, some (many?) got away with things that they’d be crucified for in 2014.

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.
A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.

Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

The alleged victim had another man's semen in her panties and on her shorts and a member of FSU cleat chasers. She insinuated she was drugged but no drugs found in her system. She stated she was clubbed in the head but no physical evidence to prove that.

Let me set you s"craight.Youve obviously not read the police reports...as I have. She had another mans DNA (not semen) on her clothing. So what...what does that matter anyway if she had a boyfriend. You insinuate since she had sex with someone else he is just "ENTITLED" to get his too. Her blood work was conveniently held by the law enforcement for more than 40 days (which is past what GHB would testing would be useless). Instead of the 3 days to test they sat on the blood work. Are you aware of the SANE nurses diagnosis of "forced rape" which was also erased during the TPD press conference? Why? Because SANE nurse diagnosis is virtually 100% convicted. Let me know how many investigators make a PHONE CALL to investigate a rape case...and then are told Ive got baseball practice I cant talk to you now. Do they also make PHONE CALLS to investigate murder cases. FSU/TPD and the scum bag rapist are as sleezy as they come. How many times would not arrest a person when they changed their story from I wasnt there to it was consensual AFTER the DNA test came back identifying him as not only being there but being "involved" with her. Im not even saying he is guilty at this point...but that he should have been charged. Sorry to burst your bubble of FSU BS but has FSU done the required by 90 days title IX investigation yet? No they just started because HE was uncooperative. Good luck with the FBI on that one...it worked well for Penn St. By FSU's own code of conduct he should have been IMMEDIATELY expelled from the school for pleading the 5th as a student (cough cough). You can do that in a criminal trial but it doesnt apply for title ix at a public university. He has to answer period to his own school. Which he never has. I could go on and on but lets just say he is a punk and they are dirty as they always are in Tally.

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I would love if he stayed at FSU another year, but he will likely be a guaranteed top 5 pick next draft.

no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.
A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.

Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

The alleged victim had another man's semen in her panties and on her shorts and a member of FSU cleat chasers. She insinuated she was drugged but no drugs found in her system. She stated she was clubbed in the head but no physical evidence to prove that.

Let me set you s"craight.Youve obviously not read the police reports...as I have. She had another mans DNA (not semen) on her clothing. So what...what does that matter anyway if she had a boyfriend. You insinuate since she had sex with someone else he is just "ENTITLED" to get his too. Her blood work was conveniently held by the law enforcement for more than 40 days (which is past what GHB would testing would be useless). Instead of the 3 days to test they sat on the blood work. Are you aware of the SANE nurses diagnosis of "forced rape" which was also erased during the TPD press conference? Why? Because SANE nurse diagnosis is virtually 100% convicted. Let me know how many investigators make a PHONE CALL to investigate a rape case...and then are told Ive got baseball practice I cant talk to you now. Do they also make PHONE CALLS to investigate murder cases. FSU/TPD and the scum bag rapist are as sleezy as they come. How many times would not arrest a person when they changed their story from I wasnt there to it was consensual AFTER the DNA test came back identifying him as not only being there but being "involved" with her. Im not even saying he is guilty at this point...but that he should have been charged. Sorry to burst your bubble of FSU BS but has FSU done the required by 90 days title IX investigation yet? No they just started because HE was uncooperative. Good luck with the FBI on that one...it worked well for Penn St. By FSU's own code of conduct he should have been IMMEDIATELY expelled from the school for pleading the 5th as a student (cough cough). You can do that in a criminal trial but it doesnt apply for title ix at a public university. He has to answer period to his own school. Which he never has. I could go on and on but lets just say he is a punk and they are dirty as they always are in Tally.

Her urine was tested for over 170 drugs including ghb and all the results were negative. The sexual assault description is based on the alleged victim's statement not the findings of the examination. Her attorney and aunt is a personal injury attorney trying a criminal case,this is about as bad as Tyson using a tax attorney to defend him in his rape case. I smell a civil lawsuit.

Speaking of changing their story, one day she states the suspect is 5'9-5'11 and the next day he's 6'2. You meet a guy in a bar and you don't get his name but you get in a cab with three men you don't know and go back to the suspect's apartment. Her female and male friend at the bar didn't find her behavior to be anything out of the normal. She's stated that she was blacking out but was able to text coherently throughout this time. Before the results were back, why did her attorney tell the police that the DNA on the clothing might not be from her boyfriend because the alleged victim and the female friend at the bar wore each other's clothing? The female friend denied wearing the alleged victim's clothing.

Meggs, the state attorney is known to be tough on FSU athletes. He tried another FSU football player with rape and the all female jury found him innocent in 30 minutes.

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