Chase Stuart
Footballguy
That's interesting; I don't know if I would have put 2 + 2 together. of course, he didn't do much talking on Touch. Pretty plum gig by the kid to get a pair of major FOX shows.
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Gotham - a show about Batman without any actual uhhh...Batman (1 Viewer)
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Maybe it was the Batman thing, but was anyone else getting a real Chris O'Donnell vibe from Gordon?
O'Donnell: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTY1OTIzMDIzMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDYyNjY0MQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
Ben McKenzie as Jim Gordon: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm55823872/nm1360270?ref_=nm_phs_md_1
O'Donnell: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTY1OTIzMDIzMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDYyNjY0MQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
Ben McKenzie as Jim Gordon: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm55823872/nm1360270?ref_=nm_phs_md_1
Mario Kart
Footballguy
The show has plenty of promise. I'm not into Batman or anything but this show I will be watching.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Are Monday's the normal night for this show?
snogger
Footballguy
kupcho1
Footballguy
As long as the Adam West version and lunch boxes are in, I'm OK with these ground rules.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I liked last night's episode.
Zow
Footballguy
Thought it was all right last night. I don't like that Alfred's character at all. He was my favorite batman character from the movies b/c he was so calm and collective. I get that this show is about development, but come on.
Selina Kyle is a great character though and the penguin actor is doing a nice job.
Selina Kyle is a great character though and the penguin actor is doing a nice job.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
so that should be cool.
I'm basing this off of the first hour of the first show that I watched. I quit watching half way through the pilot though and don't intend to continue with the show because of how stupid the "Fish Mooney" character was... and I didn't like Gordon's "partner"
For what it's worth Batman is probably my 3rd favorite comic book hero after Spider-Man and Daredevil
ATC1
Footballguy
Saw the 1st 2 last night. So the guy in the pilot doing the stand up for "Fish Mooney" is the Joker???
Penguin does seem a bit too crazy compared to the older one, but that is before he gets smart. I'm not sure how he was when he was younger.
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ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
I get the impression that is what they want you/us to believe. Not sure it's the case, though.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Based on the one joke we heard him tell, I'm thinking maybe that guy is supposed to become Joker down the road.
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Something along the lines of: I want to die like my father did: peacefully in his sleep. Not like the rest of the passengers on the plane he was flying at the time...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I think the Penquin is developing nicely. May be the big bad for this season. Selina Kyle was pretty good this episode. I'm not into the Batman lore other than the movies but this show is catchy so far. For a different reason than Marvel Agents but still pretty good. Not a fan of The Riddler so far. I picture him to be more... sarcastic. Good set of characters so far with some notables that should be teased later in the season... Harley Quinn, The Joker, Mr. Freeze. I think we've met Two Face.
Something down the road would be meeting a young Clark Kent.
Something down the road would be meeting a young Clark Kent.
The only thing missing so far are the POW's, BAM's, and BANG's
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Selina is a good character. Gordon is growing on me, too. Oh, and his fiancee is really growing on me. Will definitely keep watching.
Kraft...
Footballguy
That dude is Twist from the fresh beat band.
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Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Another good one last night...
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
The whole past lesbian relationship story is dumb. Some of the secondary actors last night were terrible, and even Gordon's partner had some really bad acting.
I really enjoy Gordon, Cobblepot, and Selina Kyle, though. They're very well acted and as long as they stay the foxus (which, how could they not?), I'll stick around.
I really enjoy Gordon, Cobblepot, and Selina Kyle, though. They're very well acted and as long as they stay the foxus (which, how could they not?), I'll stick around.
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I don't mind the love triangle; it serves a purpose in that it creates real tension for her relationship with James. There are aspects of James' job that he's going to be keeping secret from Barbara, but her dynamic with Montoya now means she's going to keep hearing about the negative things James does (or at least what Montoya thinks are negative things, like supposedly killing Cobblepot), which creates more possible directions the story can go.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Was not expecting Cobblepot to show up at his door. Thought it might be Selina or Bruce.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I don't feel like starting a thread for it, but I thought the Flash pilot was more enjoyable that Gotham has been so far. Both are still pretty good, and better than about the first 3/4 of Agents of Shield was last year.
Overall it's a pretty darn good time to be a
Overall it's a pretty darn good time to be a
Kraft...
Footballguy
I haven't seen it in a while but had 4 kids iterate through watching it over the years. Im familiar with their entire catalog.
moleculo
Footballguy
I'm caught up on the show now...I dig it. I'm in. There's some pretty bad acting, but don't really care. There are several independant story arcs happening simultaneously, which gives some nice depth: the weekly murder/mystery/cop show, whatever it is that Penguin is doing, and the Falcone/Fish Mooney/bad guys stuff, Bruce Waynes story, Cat-girl, etc.
Socrates11
Footballguy
They made Montoya a lesbian in the comic a while ago, so this kinda keeps that going and allows them to explore it in different ways.
But making Sarah Essen his Captain? In comic lore, she is the one Gordon leaves his wife for so I'm wondering if that will be something in the future or they just gave her the name as a nod and won't really do anything with it.
And Jada Pinkett may be hamming a little (and really, in a show like this there is nothing wrong with that) but she has some major crazy sexy vibe going. I would like to see why she is called Fish.
shadyridr
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
So I finally got caught up on this show. I really like it. I like the little throw ins with characters that will be important later. You can kind of see young Bruce starting to get the mature Bruce Wayne attitude on how to use his money for social good. And of course watching him develop, and start to hide that development, the persona of Batman. I like both the cops as well. I think McKensie and Logue are good together. In.
MC Gas Money
Footballguy
Hoping for an Alfred spinoff. Like a dark Mr Belvedere
MC Gas Money
Footballguy
Pinkett is not Catwoman. The young blonde homeless girl is.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
I have to say, it's weird seeing the FFA have a thread where they are poo pooing a lesbian scene in a show. I agree it's stupid. But usually I'm the only one.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Been watching and will keep going with it. Don't watch many shows regularly and not sure how long I will with this.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Kind of a filler episode. Some of the acting was pretty bad tonight, too.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Barbara was just bad as was Harvey.
Liking Oswald even if he is creepy.
Is fish's new girl harlequin?
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
1. Not a complaint, but everytime I see Gordon I think he's a combination of the two main detectives from L.A. Confidential.
2. Even though I saw Cobblepot's scheme coming, it was still fun to see it play out. Nice tux.
3. Barbara's ultimatum to Jim felt forced but I definitely also think there was foreshadowing that should have a payoff later in the season.
2. Even though I saw Cobblepot's scheme coming, it was still fun to see it play out. Nice tux.
3. Barbara's ultimatum to Jim felt forced but I definitely also think there was foreshadowing that should have a payoff later in the season.
FUBAR
Footballguy
How do you do spoiler tags?
2. I expected guns, but this was better.
3. Agreed. We're reasonably sure how this ends, hopefully it will be interesting to get there.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I was thinking ZatannaI was thinking this too, interested to see how it plays outFUBAR said:
I thought that whole part was weird though. Pretty bad acting from everyone involved in those scenes.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I don't think Liza is any character from canon. She shares nothing in common with Harlene Quinn except for gender (Harley's voice has also been featured in Arrow). Zatanna is at least an entertainer, but I doubt she'd really fit in Gotham's (cinematic) world (she might end up being the rumored character of "Zed" in Constantine).
As for the show itself, I found last night's plot aggressively stupid (worst assassin EVAH!), but the production values look good.
As for the show itself, I found last night's plot aggressively stupid (worst assassin EVAH!), but the production values look good.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I'm leaning towards non-canon also. There were a couple of things that made me think maybe Zatanna, she's dressed more or less in the classic Zatanna look and there was a quick comment about "casting a spell" when Fish was talking about seducing her. Probably a stretch, but Harley isn't even close.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Felt the same way. At times the it looked like a movie, but I found the assassin plot line and action pretty poor. They treat the Cobblepot action very comic-bookishy (which works well with however they were filming the episode), but the whole assassin thing was just rushed and poorly put together. I know they were trying to advance the overall plot, but that episode could have easily been split in two.
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