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RB Devonta Freeman, BAL (3 Viewers)
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mphtrilogy
Footballguy
I know it seems bleak, and I drafted this guy.. but a glimmer of deja vu hope in this thread for some kharma..
This was last years week 1 stat line, also awful for Freeman... let's see what happens week 2...
Rushing
ATT
YDS
TD
LG
T. Coleman
20
80
0
20
D. Freeman
10
18
0
9
M. Ryan
5
7
0
6
Receiving
REC
YDS
TD
LG
J. Jones
9
141
2
44
R. White
4
84
0
25
D. Freeman
3
29
0
12
J. Tamme
3
19
0
8
L. Hankerson
2
16
0
13
N. Williams
1
5
0
5
L. Toilolo
1
4
0
4
This was last years week 1 stat line, also awful for Freeman... let's see what happens week 2...
Rushing
ATT
YDS
TD
LG
T. Coleman
20
80
0
20
D. Freeman
10
18
0
9
M. Ryan
5
7
0
6
Receiving
REC
YDS
TD
LG
J. Jones
9
141
2
44
R. White
4
84
0
25
D. Freeman
3
29
0
12
J. Tamme
3
19
0
8
L. Hankerson
2
16
0
13
N. Williams
1
5
0
5
L. Toilolo
1
4
0
4
are freeman owners trying to acquire coleman? The way I viewed the situation pre-season was i wanted some share of this backfield because of how fantasy friendly it was last year. Coleman was just a much cheaper price. i didnt expect the 50-50 timeshare talk to come to fruitiion. The somewhat good news is if either RB goes down, the other becomes an instant RB1.
I took your advice. ( not really) I saw the writing on the wall. A 2016 2nd, 2017 1st and a 2018 1st from a really bad team is gold.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
The only reason for the change was Coleman's injury. Coleman was the lead back in game 2, but went out in the middle with the fractured rib, missed a few games and the rest is history. Last year, it seemed like Coleman was the coach's preference going into the season (which is still bizarre), so I do think that there is some cause for concern.
Noah Davis
Footballguy
I effeminately didn't take his advice. I rode Freeman to a championship last year - then traded him for 2017 1.1 pre-NFL draft. I expected somewhat of a split, just not as large as initially indicated by week 1.
fightingillini
Footballguy
You didn't call diddly squat. You said Freeman sucks a$$.....and we know that's not true. You're seeing that Coleman is actually a pretty talented player, so ATL is smart to get him some touches. Great for the Falcons, sucks for Freeman owners.
Coleman played better last Sunday.....so what, it's one game. It looked like Freeman was usually in the game at the goalline, which is very helpful to his owners.
Freeman is not likely to deliver to his ADP (I avoided him at his ADP this year), but it's not because he sucks.
Milkman
Footballguy
JMJ
Footballguy
Matthew Berry Verified account @MatthewBerryTMR Sep 12
Last 5 games, Devonta Freeman has averaged 2.87 yards per carry.
Over that same time frame, Tevin Coleman has averaged 5.08 yards per carry.
If you go further back, Devonta Freeman has actually only averaged 2.96 yars per carry over his last 7 games.
So while Devonta Freeman did go absolutely nuclear for a 6-game span last season (you can't take that away from him), he has looked VERY PEDESTRIAN in the other 26 career games he has played (211 total carries, 658 yards, 3.12 ypc, 4 TDs).
Last 5 games, Devonta Freeman has averaged 2.87 yards per carry.
Over that same time frame, Tevin Coleman has averaged 5.08 yards per carry.
If you go further back, Devonta Freeman has actually only averaged 2.96 yars per carry over his last 7 games.
So while Devonta Freeman did go absolutely nuclear for a 6-game span last season (you can't take that away from him), he has looked VERY PEDESTRIAN in the other 26 career games he has played (211 total carries, 658 yards, 3.12 ypc, 4 TDs).
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rschroeder1
Footballguy
JMJ
Footballguy
What about the stats for the 5, 7, or 26 Freeman games?
I'd be VERY concerned if I owned him.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Still hoping I can get 30-50 yds on the ground each week and 4-6 catches for 20-40 more yards, maybe a TD every other game. Can still be a nice RB2 in PPR. Have Coleman in this dynasty as well, would be nice if one of them would take over this committee, which Coleman might have already started to do. Loved seeing his production in the passing game, could potentially make him money in the bank.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Leaning toward starting Coleman this weekend with Freeman with limited yesterday. Any word of him practicing today?
Devonta Freeman (quad) was a full participant at Thursday's practice.
Freeman was limited at Wednesday's session. His full participation on Thursday should erase any lingering doubt about his status for Week 2. With Tevin Coleman emerging as a real threat to his workload, Freeman will be right on the RB2/3 cutoff for Sunday's game in Oakland.
Source: D. Orlando Ledbetter on Twitte
Freeman was limited at Wednesday's session. His full participation on Thursday should erase any lingering doubt about his status for Week 2. With Tevin Coleman emerging as a real threat to his workload, Freeman will be right on the RB2/3 cutoff for Sunday's game in Oakland.
Source: D. Orlando Ledbetter on Twitte
cantstop1999
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Not really.Over the last 6-8 games they've played that has happened actually.
And my comment only specified week 1
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Milkman
Footballguy
Lol well one guy had like less than 3 ypc average (or something terrible like that) and one guy averaged over 5 during that same span. It's exactly what you said you would be worried about.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
If you drafted him you are rollling with him..great matchup. Not a great run defense theyre facing..
Milkman
Footballguy
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9423/devonta-freeman
According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Falcons still consider Devonta Freeman their starter but believe Tevin Coleman is "just as talented."
One source told Rapsheet, "We know it's a fantasy nightmare." You can say that again. The Falcons took a committee approach in Week 1 and there's nothing to suggest that will change anytime soon. Freeman might see slightly more carries and is probably first in line for goal-line work, but Coleman is going to have an important role as well and appears to have the edge in passing-game usage. Freeman is a back-end RB2 while Coleman is in the flex conversation. Owners who invested an early-round pick on Freeman have to be regretting their decision. Sep 18 - 10:01 AM
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Falcons still consider Devonta Freeman their starter but believe Tevin Coleman is "just as talented."
One source told Rapsheet, "We know it's a fantasy nightmare." You can say that again. The Falcons took a committee approach in Week 1 and there's nothing to suggest that will change anytime soon. Freeman might see slightly more carries and is probably first in line for goal-line work, but Coleman is going to have an important role as well and appears to have the edge in passing-game usage. Freeman is a back-end RB2 while Coleman is in the flex conversation. Owners who invested an early-round pick on Freeman have to be regretting their decision. Sep 18 - 10:01 AM
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
On my bench today but my options at least for today and the next week or two, are good (D.Johnson, Deangelo, Ware, Woodhead) otherwise i'd feel like I had to start him with the match-up he has.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
That's horrible news. Best case scenario now involves either one vastly outplaying the other and earning the most reps, or an injury. I'm not one who will ever root for an injury. But to use a first round pic on a guy who is in a RBBC starting week one is painful. I'm gonna need to strike WW gold to recover from this.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
He fell to me, and i am annoyed i took him, but at this point its a sunk cost, so I need a few games to determine if I will bench for the likes of yeldon snd crowell, my alternative choices,,or john brown or sanders my flex choices...
Hoping for the best today, but prepared to bench next week if its as bad as last week.
Hoping for the best today, but prepared to bench next week if its as bad as last week.
rick6668
Footballguy
I did... benched Ware for both in a start 2 no flex. Might just save me from starting Gronk.
Nice, I'll win despite it.
Starting both is a legit option if Atlanta can run like this. Offensive line is gelling. First time this year they have gotten Freeman involved in the passing game.
New Orleans does suck though.
rick6668
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
very upset to see coleman get the goal touches. But man did freeman look good or what? Just watched all the highlights on NFL.com from last night, beast mode.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Saints D is awful
This is a good week to move him
This is a good week to move him
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Coleman was at 3.55 per carry (on non td runs, less if you include them) and yet Freeman was at 10.9. On the year DF is almost twice the ypc as TC.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
three tough matchups, then it gets to be a little easier sledding:
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
We can all see that with our eyes before we study the stats
These paid professional coaches, though - they're smart
They obviously believe in their oft-stated plan to get Coleman more involved
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
hxperson
Footballguy
I'm a Freeman owner in dynasty. Obviously a bit frustrating to see Coleman get all the goal line work, but I'm not mad at the coaching staff - I think what they are doing makes a ton of sense.
Coleman has very good size and speed, and while he's not as experienced as Freeman, he's still a solid receiver out of the backfield. Those qualities make him ideal for the red zone, whether its pounding the ball through a gap and gaining 2-3 yards or catching the ball out in the flats.
Freeman is shiftier, harder to tackle, has better vision, more reliable hands, and is more experienced. I think that makes him a better RB between the 20's than Coleman, although Coleman's superior speed can sometimes result in him having a higher YPC as he is better at exploiting a big hole..
So I think both RB's on Atlanta are very good and compliment each other well. I am convinced that as long as both of them are on the roster and healthy, it will remain close to a 50/50 split in carries between the two backs, with Coleman getting the bulk of the goal line work. They both should be solid fantasy plays in PPR leagues however, and have big upside if one of them gets hurt (Coleman appears to be more of risk here to me given his history and his upright running style).
Coleman has very good size and speed, and while he's not as experienced as Freeman, he's still a solid receiver out of the backfield. Those qualities make him ideal for the red zone, whether its pounding the ball through a gap and gaining 2-3 yards or catching the ball out in the flats.
Freeman is shiftier, harder to tackle, has better vision, more reliable hands, and is more experienced. I think that makes him a better RB between the 20's than Coleman, although Coleman's superior speed can sometimes result in him having a higher YPC as he is better at exploiting a big hole..
So I think both RB's on Atlanta are very good and compliment each other well. I am convinced that as long as both of them are on the roster and healthy, it will remain close to a 50/50 split in carries between the two backs, with Coleman getting the bulk of the goal line work. They both should be solid fantasy plays in PPR leagues however, and have big upside if one of them gets hurt (Coleman appears to be more of risk here to me given his history and his upright running style).
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Starting both in PPR is a decent move. They are both high upside high end RB2 types.
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
I haven't paid a ton of attention to the running game in Atlanta this year but I have been offered Freeman for Gurley in a trade (no keeper value) and just trying to gauge what's going on in Atlanta ROS. Is Coleman back after the bye? Atlanta has a bad rushing schedule in weeks 14-16 so maybe I stick with Gurley.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Personally I'd accept that really quickly, Freeman's situation is just much better even when Coleman comes back.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
i think coleman actually helps freeman at this point, when both at in the backfield, and or keeps him fresher, he seemed a bit worn out with him out...
JFS171
Footballguy
Hinted at up thread here, but is anyone starting both Freeman and Coleman down the stretch? Atlanta's schedule isn't awesome for RBs, but it's not terrible... between the two, I would think you're looking at 30-35 touches a week, including 5+ receptions, strong yardage, and a good bet at a TD.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
This kid is underrated. He has developed into an absolute stud in real life and PPR fantasy football. His eulisiveness and agility and inside running ability combined with his receiving ability make him a matchup problem for defenses. I really like the offense he plays in as well. 24 years old... Pretty good dynasty asset.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
I know he had a bad week 13, but week 14, wow.
He dropped to me in the draft, and the way the season has broke, he has been a very solid pick.
He dropped to me in the draft, and the way the season has broke, he has been a very solid pick.
rick6668
Footballguy
Started them both this past week and benched Ware. Very happy with the result. Pretty sure I am starting them both this week as well.
hxperson
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
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