It's your base, but I would prefer you to stay at TH9.I have enough gold to push the button.
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Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
it's finally happening! wait, it's not friday yet. come back tomorrow.=Smackdown= said:
Instinctive
Footballguy
I've found it much easier to get DE at TH10. The "you have dark spells and troops now too" argument doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I can't do them at TH9, I can just as easily not do them at TH10.Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
I'm at 30/21 now, and I'd have the AQ somewhere between 25-30 if I hadn't basically stopped playing when school started up again. All I've done is empty collectors a couple times a day, attack maybe once a day if I'm bored...and I've managed to max out lightning purely from elixir collectors.
But when I was pushing my BK from 20 to 30...I found the LaLoon and extra troop spots for loons made it way easier to basically take anyone's storage. I know AQ walk and stuff is great, but if you're super casual like I have been, not much works better.
MindCrime
Footballguy
Agreed.Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
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Footballguy
R.I.P. AQ Walk
John Bender
Footballguy
I agree with Cliff.Heroes 30/30?I have enough gold to push the button.
I just don't get pushing the button if they're not. It's super easy to farm DE at TH9. At TH10, you're going to have another round of DE labs and spells. It's going to be a ##### to farm DE for a couple months so your heroes won't be getting touched till then. By that time, you'll be ready to jump to TH11 and your heroes will be tiny! You'll be fighting a constant uphill battle. If you get 30/30 and never touch then again, not a big deal. Just my .02c.
I think I'm going to abandoned the idea of getting all my walls maxed but I do want to get my BK up to 30 before I push the button
Currently at 30/24...
culdeus
Footballguy
superqueen + air is literally my only shot at a th10 triple for the moment. With a higher king can transition back to CB/Shatter but those are just not a lock for something in the 90s even maxed.
It's funny that they basically made it a war nerf only. Using 6 healers has no reduction in anything. So the fear of just being queen charged all day in regular raiding is real. Simple solution, take 6.
It's funny that they basically made it a war nerf only. Using 6 healers has no reduction in anything. So the fear of just being queen charged all day in regular raiding is real. Simple solution, take 6.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
I think I would have quit if I did that at TH9. Went to TH10 at 20/20 and don't regret it. I still suck at attacking but that has nothing to do with heros.Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
Yup. Grinding walls and heroes sucks. No interest in doing that for months on end.Agreed. For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
freeannyong
Footballguy
I am talking just for war really. We are rarely winning as it is. If you are moving to th11 you have to be ready to hit th11 in war.Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
culdeus
Footballguy
In a nutshell the MWC worry is:I am talking just for war really. We are rarely winning as it is. If you are moving to th11 you have to be ready to hit th11 in war.Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
- Casual gowipe clans have lots of casual th10 players that want the new toys and go to th11 and put the new stuff down (likely)
- th9 with the extra 30s actually becomes possible to gowiwi/pe for 3 stars with some degree of regularity (dubious)
- Th10 still hard as #### to 3 star (tbd)
sartre
Footballguy
I may have interpreted it wrong, but it sounded like there will be a small reduction of healing stack with 4-6, and a large reduction with 7+.This will neutralize the whitewalker attack, which uses 7 and up to 10 healers. That attack can auto-star many max TH10 using 0-1 spells while leaving the AQ at full health. And the only skill required is recognition of the optimal targets and drop points. Definitely overpowered.
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My view of moving to the next town hall is simple and has two points.
1. If you are good at attacking town halls that are similar to your level, you are ready to move up. If you suck opponents at your level, moving up will amplify that sucktitude since your opponents will be even stronger.
2. If you can defend well against attacks similar to your level, you are ready to move up. If you are getting smashed at your level, moving up will amplify that since your opponents will be even stronger.
By maxing out, your defenses are stronger, your offense is stronger, and you have more time to improve your attacking against weaker opponents.
1. If you are good at attacking town halls that are similar to your level, you are ready to move up. If you suck opponents at your level, moving up will amplify that sucktitude since your opponents will be even stronger.
2. If you can defend well against attacks similar to your level, you are ready to move up. If you are getting smashed at your level, moving up will amplify that since your opponents will be even stronger.
By maxing out, your defenses are stronger, your offense is stronger, and you have more time to improve your attacking against weaker opponents.
If you don't got to TH11, you won't match up with clans that have TH11s.In a nutshell the MWC worry is:I am talking just for war really. We are rarely winning as it is. If you are moving to th11 you have to be ready to hit th11 in war.Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
So if you have all your TH10 turning perma and th9 go to th10 the good clans will actually have a really tough go for awhile. Casual clans won't do a 10.5 so someone has to hit them, may as well have a few th11 that actually have the firepower to do so, but whom?
- Casual gowipe clans have lots of casual th10 players that want the new toys and go to th11 and put the new stuff down (likely)
- th9 with the extra 30s actually becomes possible to gowiwi/pe for 3 stars with some degree of regularity (dubious)
- Th10 still hard as #### to 3 star (tbd)
New TH11 defense will be called Eagle Artillery.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
And one of the things that isn't helping is our weak heroes.I am talking just for war really. We are rarely winning as it is. If you are moving to th11 you have to be ready to hit th11 in war.Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
culdeus
Footballguy
That's a huge logic leap. It will depend on how they weight the new tower, alot. Along with new hero and other factors.If you don't got to TH11, you won't match up with clans that have TH11s.In a nutshell the MWC worry is:I am talking just for war really. We are rarely winning as it is. If you are moving to th11 you have to be ready to hit th11 in war.Nothing at all about war weight. Its pretty simple; big heroes make attacking easier. Max them at every level.Agreed.For those warning me not to hit the button and work on heroes and walls-- The hero push almost had me quitting the game out of frustration. I'm now at the point where I'm leaving them up longer just to get some sort of enjoyment in playing. So why waste resources on walls when I can continue to hero push with better troops and defenses?Im not 30/30 and I think I'm pushing it.
Ill be mad gold in a day or two and more than half way there with elix.
Or is this another "war weight " thing?
So if you have all your TH10 turning perma and th9 go to th10 the good clans will actually have a really tough go for awhile. Casual clans won't do a 10.5 so someone has to hit them, may as well have a few th11 that actually have the firepower to do so, but whom?
- Casual gowipe clans have lots of casual th10 players that want the new toys and go to th11 and put the new stuff down (likely)
- th9 with the extra 30s actually becomes possible to gowiwi/pe for 3 stars with some degree of regularity (dubious)
- Th10 still hard as #### to 3 star (tbd)
The 8/9 only mwcs consistently get 4-5 th10s against them. They are weak but they are there. Powerbang and KARA both have the larger 8/9 onlies. And they triple the th10s on a regular basis.
When Honda wars without TH10s, we might see a single TH10 and it's super weak. The vast majority of the time, our opponents maxes at TH9.
beer 30
Footballguy
Funny I was thinking about this topic this morning as it relates to me. My thought: when I am able to expect to 3 star a TH9 as opposed to being surprised when I 3 star a TH9, that day is the day I will be prepared to go to TH10.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
These guys are mild compared to the big war guys. Th10s are treated like a Syrian refugee trying to immigrate to a red state in the wild.
Shoot_Me_Now
Footballguy
I regret making the jump to th10 at 20/20. Just don't enjoy the landscape there as much as th9 and maybe part of that is the low hero level. As a result, most of my raiding is now done on the Yoga Pants account in th9 land and SMN is stuck in mud basically just collecting collectors.
culdeus
Footballguy
I enjoy the shuke raids better now. There's something funny about showcasing what can be done with 5/7 heroes. Most recent war tripled the highest and 4th highest th9. One of them was a cleanup to a 28/30. Other was fresh. Always brings the house down.
I just don't see the point in moving from THX to THX+1 when you can't handle other THXs.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
I just don't see the point in moving from THX to THX+1 when you can't handle other THXs.
We have won 1 war in the last month because we simply can't match opponents as it is. SC has dangled TH11 out there and I cringe to think how many are going to bite. It could be because people don't care as much about war as some of us, I dunno. And that is really fine, we just may need to adjust the war party.
Guess we'll see how it all pans out.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Hard to tell people what to do - everyone will do what gives them the most enjoyment out of the game.
I just don't see the point in moving from THX to THX+1 when you can't handle other THXs.
We have won 1 war in the last month because we simply can't match opponents as it is. SC has dangled TH11 out there and I cringe to think how many are going to bite. It could be because people don't care as much about war as some of us, I dunno. And that is really fine, we just may need to adjust the war party.
Guess we'll see how it all pans out.
Other than all Level 10 walls and a BK35 - I am a fully maxed TH10 on offense and defense. And yes I have my share of struggles vs. TH10's
I plan on hitting TH11 as soon as it drops because I want the new toys. IF that hurts the clan, then I'll either drop out and go solo for a bit or join another clan.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Maintenance break.
/cosign=Smackdown= said:Hard to tell people what to do - everyone will do what gives them the most enjoyment out of the game.Sputnikv8 said:Clayton Gray said:culdeus said:
I just don't see the point in moving from THX to THX+1 when you can't handle other THXs.
Guess we'll see how it all pans out.
Other than all Level 10 walls and a BK35 - I am a fully maxed TH10 on offense and defense. And yes I have my share of struggles vs. TH10's
I plan on hitting TH11 as soon as it drops because I want the new toys. IF that hurts the clan, then I'll either drop out and go solo for a bit or join another clan.
BTW, I suspect most people advocating for not going to 11 before consistently being able to 2/3 star TH10s haven't been playing in the max TH10 sandbox. I don't think more than maybe 1 or two FBGs in our clan are locks for putting up four stars against top 10 opponent bases, and that includes our resident semi pro Culdeus if memory serves. If that's the standard for going to TH11 feel free to opt me out, because I'm upgrading.
culdeus
Footballguy
Getting 2 shouldnt be an issue with both heroes. Getting 3 with both heroes is often times well out of my depth. The very highest base I could dream of tripling is in the 89 range with #### air d and maybe a down xbow or two. Any higher and the queen got to be an a really bad spot so it nukes the big stuff./cosign BTW, I suspect most people advocating for not going to 11 before consistently being able to 2/3 star TH10s haven't been playing in the max TH10 sandbox. I don't think more than maybe 1 or two FBGs in our clan are locks for putting up four stars against top 10 opponent bases, and that includes our resident semi pro Culdeus if memory serves. If that's the standard for going to TH11 feel free to opt me out, because I'm upgrading.=Smackdown= said:Hard to tell people what to do - everyone will do what gives them the most enjoyment out of the game.Sputnikv8 said:Clayton Gray said:culdeus said:
I just don't see the point in moving from THX to THX+1 when you can't handle other THXs.
Guess we'll see how it all pans out.
Other than all Level 10 walls and a BK35 - I am a fully maxed TH10 on offense and defense. And yes I have my share of struggles vs. TH10's
I plan on hitting TH11 as soon as it drops because I want the new toys. IF that hurts the clan, then I'll either drop out and go solo for a bit or join another clan.
Probably to vaccinate for the cauldron epidemic.Cliff Clavin said:
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
Well then.Getting 2 shouldnt be an issue with both heroes. Getting 3 with both heroes is often times well out of my depth. The very highest base I could dream of tripling is in the 89 range with #### air d and maybe a down xbow or two. Any higher and the queen got to be an a really bad spot so it nukes the big stuff./cosignBTW, I suspect most people advocating for not going to 11 before consistently being able to 2/3 star TH10s haven't been playing in the max TH10 sandbox. I don't think more than maybe 1 or two FBGs in our clan are locks for putting up four stars against top 10 opponent bases, and that includes our resident semi pro Culdeus if memory serves. If that's the standard for going to TH11 feel free to opt me out, because I'm upgrading.=Smackdown= said:Hard to tell people what to do - everyone will do what gives them the most enjoyment out of the game.Sputnikv8 said:Clayton Gray said:culdeus said:
I just don't see the point in moving from THX to THX+1 when you can't handle other THXs.
Guess we'll see how it all pans out.
Other than all Level 10 walls and a BK35 - I am a fully maxed TH10 on offense and defense. And yes I have my share of struggles vs. TH10's
I plan on hitting TH11 as soon as it drops because I want the new toys. IF that hurts the clan, then I'll either drop out and go solo for a bit or join another clan.
If suckitude were people, we'd be China.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
Sorry if honda.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/930216-Regarding-to-the-Video-on-12-04-15-No-Hog-Rider-lvl-6-or-poison-spell-lvl-5
The guy disects the video which spurred the "Hogs get another level!" rumor. Looks like that is not the case.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/930216-Regarding-to-the-Video-on-12-04-15-No-Hog-Rider-lvl-6-or-poison-spell-lvl-5
The guy disects the video which spurred the "Hogs get another level!" rumor. Looks like that is not the case.
culdeus
Footballguy
I have to think all dark troops get at least one more level and nearly all elixer troops and spells get an additional level as well. The only ones maybe skipped would be giants, dragons, and perhaps barch.Sorry if honda.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/930216-Regarding-to-the-Video-on-12-04-15-No-Hog-Rider-lvl-6-or-poison-spell-lvl-5
The guy disects the video which spurred the "Hogs get another level!" rumor. Looks like that is not the case.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
6* war of 2 max 9s which had beefy heroes 
6 wiz
4 witch
2 + 1 golem
16 hogs
4 wb
rage/jump/heal*2
Absolute golden build.
Last brag/PSA on this. Sorry.
6 wiz
4 witch
2 + 1 golem
16 hogs
4 wb
rage/jump/heal*2
Absolute golden build.
Last brag/PSA on this. Sorry.
gangrenengold
Footballguy
When do you drop your witches?6* war of 2 max 9s which had beefy heroes
6 wiz
4 witch
2 + 1 golem
16 hogs
4 wb
rage/jump/heal*2
Absolute golden build.
Last brag/PSA on this. Sorry.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
As soon as the funnel is set. I can now record videos through google playWhen do you drop your witches?6* war of 2 max 9s which had beefy heroes
6 wiz
4 witch
2 + 1 golem
16 hogs
4 wb
rage/jump/heal*2
Absolute golden build.
Last brag/PSA on this. Sorry.
. Uploading replay.
JNox3
Footballguy
As soon as the funnel is set. I can now record videos through google play
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UuaRciI14As soon as the funnel is set. I can now record videos through google play
Please let me know if any personal stuff is showing up. Tried to remove it all but stupid google integration is a #####.
ChiefD
Footballguy
That's an impressive attack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UuaRciI14As soon as the funnel is set. I can now record videos through google play
Please let me know if any personal stuff is showing up. Tried to remove it all but stupid google integration is a #####.
culdeus
Footballguy
Wow, one single larry went in a second before the hogs jumped that wall and made bacon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UuaRciI14As soon as the funnel is set. I can now record videos through google play
Please let me know if any personal stuff is showing up. Tried to remove it all but stupid google integration is a #####.
edit, hogs actually popped one and the larry got another. heals got hogs back up.
you have a deep voice
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JNox3
Footballguy
The yawning and random talking were funny. Not much of a beat and I found it difficult to dance to. I gave it a 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UuaRciI14As soon as the funnel is set. I can now record videos through google play
Please let me know if any personal stuff is showing up. Tried to remove it all but stupid google integration is a #####.
Shoot_Me_Now
Footballguy
Not sure how many different ways there are out there but Honda and fbg1 have both had the enemy's bottom guys simply drop a barb on our top bases then quit. That will send the traps and cc to a server and they can practice away for however long they want.
