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If you believe the Panthers are going to have a bad run game and Benjamin is the only option outside of Olsen then how do you see him putting up good numbers in double or triple coverage?
Good point about Steve Smith. With Benjamin I just don't see how he can get less than 100 targets this year. I just don't see how how you could turn down that much opportunity in the 10th round. Plus, Benjamin has more red zone/jump ball potential than Smith.
Being slow off the line and being unable to beat the jam seem like valid reasons concerns and reasons to be skeptical of him to me. And I like KB.
Carolina was 11th in rushing yardage last year and 9th in 2012. Granted, Cam skews things a bit, but their rushing offense certainly doesn't "suck." And Benjamin might end up being good long term, but he's extremely raw and asking any rookie to serve as a team's WR1 right out of the gate is a pretty tall order.
Maybe he'll see 100 targets, but IMO probably not. He's physically the best WR on the roster, but I personally don't think he's near polished enough to pass guys that have been in the league a while right out of the gate. Agree that he might have some TD heavy appeal due to his size on the fade, but I think it's more likely that he needs most of the year to learn how to run NFL routes. I think that guys like Amendola, Boldin, and Jennings, who are all going later, actually have both a higher floor and a higher ceiling in 2014.
Let me clarify, even though you kind of hinted around you know what I mean. Clearly if I mention Stewart and Williams specifically, that means I was talking about them. Of course Cam skew things, did not feel the need to state the obvious.
This route thing is way overblown. When you look at tape he ran more routes than guys drafted much higher. Further he showed more than route running he showed recognition. Several times you can see him take what the defense left open and sit down in an open zone to present a target to the QB.
Cut that stupid BS out. How exactly is it going to get any easier for him against bigger, stronger professionals?
Steve Smith has slowed down over the last few years. He didn't lose his fire, but he lost his jets. He would have liked to have moved to the slot, but there was nobody to take his place on the outside while at Carolina.
To clarify, I was speaking as much about rookie WRs in general as I was about Benjamin specifically. WRs typically don't step in and provide good FF production as rookies -- it's much more of a learned position than is RB for example. Of course there are exceptions, but for the most part rostering rookie WRs in redraft leagues is a -EV play. I actually think Benjamin is pretty strong value at his current ADP in dynasty, but I doubt he's anything great in 2014.
Labeling a guy a 4,000 yd passer when he has done it once in three years (and that was in 2011) is obviously a stretch.
I agree but I have think there is more to the story. Newton had career highs in completion percentage and TDs. He had a career low in yardage. Steve Smith started with 17.6 then 16.1 ypc during Newtons first two years. Last year he had 11.6 ypc. Teams were able to box Cam in because Smith doesn't have the wheels anymore to stretch the field.
Coaching and because he is raw and players can get better and certain things. Tell me, in the championship game did he have a tough time getting off the line and breaking a jam to score the TD to win the title for Florida St. against a SEC defense?
Your the one who is just sharing an opinion, so I shared mine. Whats it matter what we discuss, even when someone provides facts like the 4000 yard passer statement you like to disagree so will it really matter? Fact is the Panthers drafted him in the 1st to be a franchise WR so he will be given every chance to succeed and he has a darn good QB to throw to him, that's my opinion. But I get my opinion based on the facts if his situation, which is he is going to be the unquestioned #1 WR, he has a guy who has thrown for 4k throwing to him, and being drafted in the first typically means he will be given every chance to succeed.
Where is your website? I think sharing anything football related on a football forum is more then expected and appreciated. People share ESPN links and stories of writers opinions, why cant he share the stories he wants?
I'll say this, probably a thread on the Carolina WR situation is overdue. It's just interesting to follow (for some) even if not much FF value there.
Has nothing to do with the kind of day I'm having. Don't believe me as to his intentions? Here you go:
Today 7/3: http://www.football-elite.com/topic/could-someone-post-a-thread-over-at-fbg-for-me/
You were saying?
Yeah, it does look like he has planned to do this stuff, he also sent me an email to his link. I guess you would only know these things unless you were looking at his site, I only clicked on that story, I didnt go digging.Oh! Called out!
Pretty much from day one it has been considered spam to advertise another website here that deals with fantasy football. Joe and the gang spent years building this they don't owe him any pageviews. He has been warned once apparently.
I don't get what the problem is. This is a business. If you don't want to read my articles, don't read my articles. The fact of the matter is that my threads on this website have been going 1 - 10 pages and I have been giving some very solid fantasy advice.
I don't think people are finding fault with drafting Benjamin and having him on your bench. I found fault with the article calling his "floor" as 62-868-6. That is well above average for a rookie.
Naturally but I am also very impressed by what I've seen on tape. He's as tough to bring down as a 245 should be and his ability to high-point the ball is very impressive. Assuming they keep it simple for him year-1, he has a very specific skillset that should allow him to succeed early on.
Jennings has an unproven QB on an Offense that will look to:
Tiquan Underwood has that skill set. Unfortunately that's pretty much all he is, other than a guy with ST experience. I'd love for a sleeper to emerge here, but they accumulated so many terrible veterans, I think the opportunity is pretty small.
sry was looking for the carolina receivers thread -- must've accidentally clicked the stephen hill thread
Just terrible. You're better than this Larry. Benjamin and Hill are completely different players.
