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6 minutes ago, tangfoot said:

Well, you are badmouthing a player on a fantasy football website.  I think you need to be more mindful of your audience.

What are you talking about? I told people to pick up CJ Anderson in Gurley's absence and he helped win a lot of crucial fantasy playoff matchups.  Having a basic understanding of a team's strengths playing the actual game of football goes a long way in winning fantasy football. 

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Nothing worse than coming to a thread looking for some news or something useful and finding these types of silly back and forth posts. Move on please

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3 hours ago, tangfoot said:

I like how you take the Vegas information for a single game and inflate that to mean that he cannot be the best player in the league and is vastly overrated.  That's cute.

A different person would look at this information and say that in the context of the Saints vs the Rams on Sunday, January 20, 2019, there is very little difference between the expected outcome of the game whether or not Todd Gurley plays.  This can have any number of meanings for future games, or none at all.   I lean toward the latter.

More importantly he was guessing that the line wouldn’t move if Gurley was out this week.  There is no such in or out line this week as he’s in.  The Only game there was, was the 49er game where he was expected to play and sat at the last minute. And this line didn’t move is his case. But Gurleys impact on that game wasn’t necessary for them to win or effect the final score. In the Gurley in line Vegas could’ve very easily been factoring in an early lead in that late season game and Gurly getting sat. The point is who knows what factored in to Vegas is lines pre-and post Gurley for that specific game.  One theory could be what he is proposing, but there are others. 

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I for one was shocked to see "round, brown, and low to the ground"* out produce Gurley last week.  Make me question how much of Gurley's success is system based.

*Stealing this from a local AA radio host.

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9 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

More importantly he was guessing that the line wouldn’t move if Gurley was out this week.  There is no such in or out line this week as he’s in.  The Only game there was, was the 49er game where he was expected to play and sat at the last minute. And this line didn’t move is his case. But Gurleys impact on that game wasn’t necessary for them to win or effect the final score. In the Gurley in line Vegas could’ve very easily been factoring in an early lead in that late season game and Gurly getting sat. The point is who knows what factored in to Vegas is lines pre-and post Gurley for that specific game.  One theory could be what he is proposing, but there are others. 

I literally posted a quote from one bookmaker who said RBs have no value.  It's amazing how much time you spent making up stuff here just to try to discredit my opinion.  

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3 hours ago, tjnc09 said:

I literally posted a quote from one bookmaker who said RBs have no value.  It's amazing how much time you spent making up stuff here just to try to discredit my opinion.  

You didn't present it as an opinion.  You presented it as a fact, and implied that only a moron could disagree with this gospel truth.

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Todd Gurley - RB -  Rams

Rams coach Sean McVay said Todd Gurley will "be a big part of this game."

Gurley touched the ball just five times in the NFC Championship game. He blamed being "sorry as hell" and not his knee for the limited workload, but it is difficult to believe his lingering left knee injury was not a contributing factor. With another two weeks to heal, Gurley should be ready for a bigger role this Sunday, especially considering how the Patriots have struggled at times to cover running backs in the passing game.

Source: Albert Breer on Twitter 

Jan 29 - 11:11 AM

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2 hours ago, Faust said:

 

 

Profootball doc speculates on Gurley

From the article above:

My suspicion, based on video review, is he has tendonitis, perhaps of the patella tendon. Video did not show a play with traumatic injury. And his frequent trips to the exercise bike and use of heat would support the tendonitis analysis. If it was structural, wear and tear or related to his ACL, he likely would not take those courses of action.

Patella tendonitis is something he will play through, and I expect a performance closer to the division round than championship game.

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13 minutes ago, Kwai Chang Caine said:

Please correct me if I’m wrong but he hasn’t been listed in the injury report for over month right? How can that be?

There’s an advantage to having the opponent’s Defense prepare all week for Gurley, when he’s actually gimpy/change-of-pace. Call it cheating or call it gamesmanship, the NFL does zilch about fraudulating the injury report (unless it’s the Patriots, of course).

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2 hours ago, Edgar said:

There’s an advantage to having the opponent’s Defense prepare all week for Gurley, when he’s actually gimpy/change-of-pace. Call it cheating or call it gamesmanship, the NFL does zilch about fraudulating the injury report (unless it’s the Patriots, of course).

for sure. I would not be surprised at all if the Pats didn't even sell out to stop Gurley in preparation for this game, knowing he was probably injured

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Would whoever snuck Jeff Fisher back into the Rams' organization kindly come clean up your mess?

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4 minutes ago, Hankmoody said:

Would whoever snuck Jeff Fisher back into the Rams' organization kindly come clean up your mess?

Actually felt much more like Mike Martz 2.0.  Belichick took McVay to the woodshed and McVay bought his own hype and went away from what got us here.  Gurley.  

Wade Phillips and the D should be proud though.  

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It’s a shame how the year ended. All this talk of Gurley being JAG because CJA ran through some 7 foot holes. Limited use to finish the year. Will all overshadow one hell of an MVP type year. 

Now that I think about it, maybe it’s good because I’m not picking in the top half of my draft so keep the overreaction coming 😜

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2 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Actually felt much more like Mike Martz 2.0.  Belichick took McVay to the woodshed and McVay bought his own hype and went away from what got us here.  Gurley.  

Wade Phillips and the D should be proud though.  

Gurley failed on the biggest stages of his career.  You, @Bucky86, and the whole world got to see how overrated he is two weeks in a row.  

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8 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Actually felt much more like Mike Martz 2.0.  Belichick took McVay to the woodshed and McVay bought his own hype and went away from what got us here.  Gurley.  

Wade Phillips and the D should be proud though.  

The Martz loss was one of the biggest SB failures ever. Right there with the Falcons and Seattle. All 3 should have won but failed at coaching. However the Rams back then were such a powerhouse that it took extra effort to suck so bad as to lose to a weak Patriots team.

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I don't think he looked 100%, regular season todd on a couple of them runs goes for 40 instead of the 16 or so he got. One was a penalty I know

 

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Is it really injury or coaches dog house? Have to think he tore something weeks ago they were hoping would heal but hasn’t? His usage was inexcusable for any team not trying to lose. 

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2 minutes ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

I don't think he looked 100%, regular season todd on a couple of them runs goes for 40 instead of the 16 or so he got. One was a penalty I know

 

The excuses people make for this guy are amazing.  He ran quite well against Dallas.

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Todd Gurley rushed 10 times for 35 yards in the Rams' Super Bowl LIII loss to the Patriots.

Gurley's mystifying usage continued, as he was absent from the field for long stretches at a time. This, even as the Rams' offense could get absolutely nothing going. Coach Sean McVay insisted time and again that Gurley is healthy, but that is clearly a lie. Although Gurley’s MVP candidacy was never more than hot take fodder, he did become just the second player since 2012 to post a 20-touchdown season. Gurley now has 40 scores over the past two years. Thanks in part to a pair of injuries, Gurley was not the same down the stretch. He tweaked his ankle in the Rams’ 54-51, Week 11 win over the Chiefs before aggravating an early-season knee issue in December. Whatever was going on with Gurley's health down the stretch, it should not be a concern for 2019, where Gurley will be the most sensible choice at No. 1 overall in fantasy drafts.

I seriously question the underlined.

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24 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

Gurley failed on the biggest stages of his career.  You, @Bucky86, and the whole world got to see how overrated he is two weeks in a row.  

Not taking this stinky bait.  

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3 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Not taking this stinky bait.  

It's serious road kill. Should be within a month that we get the real answer as to what his injury is.

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He looked pretty good running the ball. There was the nice 16 yard run and another 12 or 13 yard run with a phantom holding call. He just didn’t get the touches and was nonexistent in the passing game once again. Think that’s the biggest head scratcher. Goff getting rushed like he was and no Gurley short passes. 

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6 minutes ago, lod001 said:

It's serious road kill. Should be within a month that we get the real answer as to what his injury is.

:lmao: They will make some lie up to cover up their $14m mistake.  What team wouldn't?  

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18 minutes ago, fruity pebbles said:

He looked pretty good running the ball. There was the nice 16 yard run and another 12 or 13 yard run with a phantom holding call. He just didn’t get the touches and was nonexistent in the passing game once again. Think that’s the biggest head scratcher. Goff getting rushed like he was and no Gurley short passes. 

Poor coaching and ability to adjust to what is coming at ya. Game was too big for Goff and McVay at this point in their careers

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44 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

The excuses people make for this guy are amazing.  He ran quite well against Dallas.

You’re trolling so hard it’s obvious. Stop polluting the thread. 

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CJ Anderson with a little slip o the lip in an interview just now when asked about dividing up the carries. '....Todd would go as much as he could'. oops.

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6 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

You’re trolling so hard it’s obvious. Stop polluting the thread. 

Why is it okay for people to make unsubstantiated excuses for him?  The Rams, McVay, and Gurley himself all have said he wasn't injured.  If you want to whine, do it about all of the other fake things people are spreading in this thread about him.  

 

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49 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

Why is it okay for people to make unsubstantiated excuses for him?  The Rams, McVay, and Gurley himself all have said he wasn't injured.  If you want to whine, do it about all of the other fake things people are spreading in this thread about him.  

 

Gurley reiterates his knee is fine and does not expect to have off-season surgery

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/03/todd-gurley-insists-knee-is-fine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Glad I haven't been the one polluting this thread with lies and excuses 👍

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53 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

Why is it okay for people to make unsubstantiated excuses for him?  The Rams, McVay, and Gurley himself all have said he wasn't injured.  If you want to whine, do it about all of the other fake things people are spreading in this thread about him.  

 

Who is whining? I’m just calling you a troll, which you are. You respond to every new comment with no penchant for discussion, just “Gurley sucks, you’re wrong, etc.” I’m not trying to defend him I’m simply stating the fact that you are ruining the thread with your drivel on repeat. You think he sucks. WE GET IT. Move on. 

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43 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

Who is whining? I’m just calling you a troll, which you are. You respond to every new comment with no penchant for discussion, just “Gurley sucks, you’re wrong, etc.” I’m not trying to defend him I’m simply stating the fact that you are ruining the thread with your drivel on repeat. You think he sucks. WE GET IT. Move on. 

Why do you think people repetitively lying about his health is "penchant for discussion"?

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Speaking after the Rams' Super Bowl LIII loss, Todd Gurley once again insisted he was healthy.

"I know there’s been a lot of concern about my knee, but I really am fine," Gurley claimed. Gurley did admit to undergoing an MRI following the Rams' Week 15 loss to the Eagles. We have a hard time believing either Gurley or coach Sean McVay's claims about his health. Gurley was once again absent from the field for bafflingly long stretches against the Patriots. He touched the ball just 16 times between the Super Bowl and NFC Championship Game. No amount of conditioning issues or "hot hand" play from C.J. Anderson could explain that. It will be a topic of offseason discussion.

 

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11 hours ago, tjnc09 said:

:lmao: They will make some lie up to cover up their $14m mistake.  What team wouldn't?  

What's your problem with Gurley?  Before the end of season fiasco he was one of the safest stud RBs.  He has certainly been safer in getting the majority of caries for his team than 99% of the RBs in the NFL, at least until the end of the season.  Who knows what's going on with him right now but I suspect it's the balky knee.

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If you must respond to that trash at least please stop quoting the guy, it ruins the ability to have him on ignore.

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His dynasty value has dropped some because of this. I know two separate occasions where he was offered for McCaffrey, one of them the Gurley owner adding a little and both were rejected without a counter. Another league I’m in the Gurley owner is actively trying to move him and has only had lowball offers.

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39 minutes ago, Hankmoody said:

If you must respond to that trash at least please stop quoting the guy, it ruins the ability to have him on ignore.

My bad. I’ve learned my lesson.  

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1 hour ago, JohnnyU said:

What's your problem with Gurley?  Before the end of season fiasco he was one of the safest stud RBs.  He has certainly been safer in getting the majority of caries for his team than 99% of the RBs in the NFL, at least until the end of the season.  Who knows what's going on with him right now but I suspect it's the balky knee.

I don't have any problem with Gurley.  He's just a guy in a phenomenal system.  Teams who overpay for a RB are stupid - they are one of the easiest positions in sports to replace.  

Why do people keep making up lies about his health?  I don't understand that at all.  How many times does GURLEY HIMSELF have to say he isn't injured?  Was he injured all of 2016?  Was he injured against Chicago?  We have plenty of samples where he has been terrible and not "injured".  Why can't people just admit they were wrong and stop making excuses for him?  

 

 

 

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Zero doubt he's dealing with an injury. Even recall Tracy Wolfson during the game say with his type of knee injury he could wake up and not feel right and that when she observed him in practice he ran hard and took a lot of reps but looked like he favored that leg. That and countless other reasons make wondering if he is healthy or not a no brainer, which is probably the condition anyone who think's he' just normal healthy Todd Gurley is dealing with.

 

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Well the good news is it just got a lot cheaper to acquire him.

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16 minutes ago, menobrown said:

Zero doubt he's dealing with an injury. Even recall Tracy Wolfson during the game say with his type of knee injury he could wake up and not feel right and that when she observed him in practice he ran hard and took a lot of reps but looked like he favored that leg. That and countless other reasons make wondering if he is healthy or not a no brainer, which is probably the condition anyone who think's he' just normal healthy Todd Gurley is dealing with.

 

https://www.twitter.com/profootballdoc/status/1092244639141240832

"More evidence Todd Gurley is not hurt.  Fastest man on the field today"

I love how you guys are so desperate for this narrative you will dismiss the opinions of Gurley himself and apparently you are smarter than medical doctors too.  Talk about drivel on repeat.

 

 

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People who don't think Gurley is injured:

Rams organization

Sean McVay

Todd Gurley

Medical Doctor

 

People who think Gurley is injured:

same 5-6 random football fans on an online forum

 

And I'm the problem lol

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Reasons I believe Gurley is hurt

1. Riding bike and stretching on the sidelines. Something that was never part of his game day routine.

2. Noticeably limping back to the huddle and on the sidelines

3. Interview CJ let slip that Todds doing what he can and he decides how much he can do

4. The run plays called for Gurley were all straight line up the middle

 

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38 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

People who don't think Gurley is injured:

Rams organization

Sean McVay

Todd Gurley

Medical Doctor

 

People who think Gurley is injured:

same 5-6 random football fans on an online forum

 

And I'm the problem lol

if he isn't injured what happened? how does the #1 rb in football suddenly start losing out in a timeshare to an over the hill CJ andersen? Did he sleep with McVay's wife??

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1 hour ago, tjnc09 said:

https://www.twitter.com/profootballdoc/status/1092244639141240832

"More evidence Todd Gurley is not hurt.  Fastest man on the field today"

I love how you guys are so desperate for this narrative you will dismiss the opinions of Gurley himself and apparently you are smarter than medical doctors too.  Talk about drivel on repeat.

 

 

Why so much vitriol? 

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I have no dog in the Gurley discussion, but I have to think something is wrong, just doesn't add up. 

Regardless of how down someone might be on Gurley, the margin between him and CJA is fairly large, and if someone wants to debate that it isn't, I'm too far away from them to debate the topic. 

He's either hurt, nailed McVay's wife or ran over his dog.

 

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