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Yeah, I've seen the NBA thread. I generally also do the "live and let live" thing and know how those threads can get when you're the only one with a contravening opinion to the maddening crowd.
Agree. He’s not done but he’ll never see workloads like the last two years ever again. We’re also destined to be dealing with “flare ups” at any time making it hard to trust him. Going to always be waiting for what happened at the end of the season to happen again at any moment.
There is no credibility to the stem cell treatment. It was a hypothetical question asked by a reporter to which McVay denied it was actually happening.
I'm dubious on this report myself. Rams beat writers have been all over this story for weeks but a Patriot beat writer happens to have the scoop?
Read my recent posts in this thread and see if I think you’re worth replying to anymore and I’m not interested in playing word games with you. I never said there was any guarantee he’d get stem cell treatment. I’m sure you’d try and find a way to say you were right even if he did end up getting the treatment though. Even the way you word this bet and the parameters you place on it is so disingenuous to the overall point I was making, it only further makes my point about you. Look how narrow you made it in your favor.
Can only go by the reports since nothing has been verified but given the possible stem cell treatment, it sounds like cartilage damage that’s causing the arthritis.
Think everyone knows RBs have shorter careers but the top flight guys are league winners. 3-4 400 point plus seasons from a RB are worth most WRs careers.
I still think stud RB's are far more inclined to be league winners so always got to weight that into the equation. But I'd take 4-5 years of stud RB1 production over 6-7 years of stud WR1 production myself.
Agree 100%.fruity pebbles said:
I can see this argument.fruity pebbles said:
clear as mud - they are being vague for a reason imo. It does seem that the knee is not/was not right though.
Henderson is their 3rd RB now. I wouldnt count on Gurley getting 30 touches a game, but hes the guy
I hope so but the injury worried me last year and when I heard about the arthritis I got real concerned. This all but confirms the worst fears. As a guy who’s had 3 knee surgeries and arthritis in both knees (@ only 43) I know how this can effect things.
Henderson was the 70th pick, it isn't like the Rams drafted a RB in the 1st round.
Fair, but teams don’t typically match an offer sheet (when cap space is extremely tight) for a favored backup then give up 2 3rd round picks to move up and draft another talented RB all behind the highest paid RB in the league if they were just building depth. Lots of smoke is all I’m saying, there’s gotta be a fire burning imo. I certainly hope not and will gladly be wrong here.
Agree, it's concerning...but when rookie drafts happen we'll have no idea on Gurley's health.
While we don't know the state of Gurley's knee, reading the tea leaves portends a drop off. The question is now how much less production we will get from Gurley. His overall RB 1 days appear over. In some cursory rankings I have seen, he falls between RB5-RB9 overall and still costs a mid to late first. Too bad- he's the type of player that is easy to route for; electric on the field and a quality person off of it.
Nice selective quoting.
You’re pretty sour about this aren’t you. Kinda wormy to ask me not engage you in debate and then try to call me out where you can. I’ll be putting you on ignore before I say anything too unkindly that gets me a vacation. Don’t quote me again.
Why are you trying to trade him?If you had intended to sell in a dynasty at this point might as well stop trying. My league mates are convinced his leg is almost falling off and he's worthless now
I didn't ask you not to engage me, I simply said I didn't want to discuss Jacobs with you. You're set on your position with him and I don't feel it necessary to have you keep repeating it.
I traded Gurley a few weeks ago for Kelce and a 2020 1st that could go anywhere. I think the "why" is obvious - to get out of the risk while there's still value to salvage.
I asked the other guy why he was trying to trade him. It seems weird he isnt happy his leaguemates are very low on Gurley, yet there he is trying to trade him likely due to his own concerns about Gurleys health.
Well there is a reason you want to sell him right?If you had intended to sell in a dynasty at this point might as well stop trying. My league mates are convinced his leg is almost falling off and he's worthless now
Well sure, we all read the articles coming out, so it makes sense if you aren't a risk taker you'd prefer to sell at a discount BUT...we are still talking Todd freaking Gurley here, he's not lost a limb and he's not dead yet. Like the above poster mentioned he sold him for Kelce and a 2020 1st, that's good value. But I had someone tell me I would have to give him Matt Ryan, Gurley, Julio Jones, and Njoku for Kamara. I think that's just absurd. Just my opinion, but its treating Gurley like he's worth a late 3rd rookie pick now
His sell high point has come and gone, absolutely. At this point he holds more value for you than he does in any trade. You might be able to sell during the season if he has shown no signs of slowing down, but the arthritis bell has been rung. IMO in season trading has the most upside but the most risk too... he could be worth nothing at that point, at least nothing worth trading him away for.If you had intended to sell in a dynasty at this point might as well stop trying. My league mates are convinced his leg is almost falling off and he's worthless now
