Sebowski
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[Dynasty] Todd Gurley (4 Viewers)
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Live To Ride
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In 2017 and ‘18, Gurley had 279 and 256 carries, respectively. Those numbers won’t be cut in half, but it’s difficult to see a scenario where Gurley has more than 200 carries. Les Snead has already said this offseason that the Rams will limit his workload to keep him fresh
My projection for Gurley for 2019 200 carries for 10375 8 TD - 30 rec for 275 1 TD
My projection for Gurley for 2019 200 carries for 10375 8 TD - 30 rec for 275 1 TD
Dr. Octopus
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Live To Ride
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10375 my bad 1075
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Foosball God
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Interseptopus
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Edit: I was a day late to the joke
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Football Jones
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edit (wrong thread)
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Foosball God
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It is interesting all the talk about Henderson when Malcom Brown is sitting there on the roster and the Rams matched the Lion's offer to keep him there. Sure that was before they drafted Henderson, but I'm not sure Henderson will be the one that benefits solely from a reduction in Gurley touches. I would expect Brown to pick up a share of those.
dkp993
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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/11/nfl-rams-todd-gurley-knee-injury-small/
Top 5 RB in PPR this year still my thinking. Bargain to be had for those willing to take the risk.
Top 5 RB in PPR this year still my thinking. Bargain to be had for those willing to take the risk.
joey
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Interseptopus
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So at least hes admitting there's a problem. I'd agree, in the grand scheme of things arthritis in the knee is a small problem compared to an acl tear. That's like saying my leaky radiator isnt as bad as when I needed a whole new transmission. But okay.
dkp993
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There’s just no way at this point he couldn’t admit there’s a problem. But like I’ve said before, I believe long term this is a problem and will shorten his career significantly. But short term, 1-2yrs, I believe he’ll be mostly fine with a managed workload and maintenance program.
jeaton6
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Gurley says he isn't worried, Gordon says that Todd is good, Eric Dickerson says Todd is good. I'll come back to revisit the hysteria that was this off-season after he drops 1500-2000 combined yards and another 15+ total TD's this year.
Johnny B. Goode
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enyce said:
Dr. Octopus
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Where would you feel comfortable drafting him if your draft was tomorrow?enyce said:
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
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dkp993
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That will not be happening. He played zero in last years preseason and they’ve already made it clear he will not again this yr.
Dr. Octopus
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Yeah that’s pretty reasonable. I rank him about 6 for RBs in redraft, so that’s the range.
Johnny B. Goode
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LakeCowboy
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If you were able to catch a Gurley fire sale its going to work out really well for you this season!
From FBG Email:
Source: Yahoo - Shalise Manza Young
Updating previous reports. Los Angeles Rams RB Todd Gurley (knee) is in fact dealing with arthritis in his knee after months of speculation. Travelle Gaines, who has trained Gurley for three years, suggested 'not one thing has changed' in regards to his client and that 'our routine has worked, he's been strong, he's been in great shape, he's done well.' Gaines went on to say the decision this offseason to have Gurley drop six pounds and trim his body fat from 10 percent to seven was not due to injuries and more to accentuate his speed. The trainer also said 'it's never been told to me' that the Rams plan on decreasing Gurley's workload come Week 1.'Everybody knew when Todd came out of Georgia that there would be some kind of arthritic component to his knee, which is part of every surgery whether it's a shoulder, a knee, an ankle. He's now at the Year 5 mark; all we're doing is managing that. If we can pound him less in the offseason while keeping his weight down, working on his strength, working on his agility in short areas, that's going to give him a better chance to be healthy Weeks 14 through 17 when they really count,' Gaines said.
From FBG Email:
Source: Yahoo - Shalise Manza Young
Updating previous reports. Los Angeles Rams RB Todd Gurley (knee) is in fact dealing with arthritis in his knee after months of speculation. Travelle Gaines, who has trained Gurley for three years, suggested 'not one thing has changed' in regards to his client and that 'our routine has worked, he's been strong, he's been in great shape, he's done well.' Gaines went on to say the decision this offseason to have Gurley drop six pounds and trim his body fat from 10 percent to seven was not due to injuries and more to accentuate his speed. The trainer also said 'it's never been told to me' that the Rams plan on decreasing Gurley's workload come Week 1.'Everybody knew when Todd came out of Georgia that there would be some kind of arthritic component to his knee, which is part of every surgery whether it's a shoulder, a knee, an ankle. He's now at the Year 5 mark; all we're doing is managing that. If we can pound him less in the offseason while keeping his weight down, working on his strength, working on his agility in short areas, that's going to give him a better chance to be healthy Weeks 14 through 17 when they really count,' Gaines said.
Bronco Billy
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And so the real reason why Gurley had a total of 53 carries in the last 2 weeks of the regular season and the 3 playoff games was because he was too fat?
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cloppbeast
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Bronco Billy
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I get that we are going to get no useful information out of the LAR staff, just like last year when Gurley was getting a greatly reduced workload in the playoffs despite nothing allegedly being wrong. For any member of the Rams’ staff or a trainer to put forth something and then have FFers think it is any reliable indicator of Gurley’s condition or workload in the coming season seems kind of silly given the history to date.
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jm192
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I assume they're telling him the best way to prevent further arthritis is to play at a lighter weight.
I keep seeing him go mid-late 2nd in mocks. I pride myself on being risk adverse, but getting hard to pass at that point.
Tanner9919
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so they gave up two 3rd round picks to jump up 24 spots to nab Henderson and no one thinks anything of it?! The supposed best RB in the NFL sat out the SB? every time you put on a Rams game he was on a bicycle on the sidelines and that's OK?
I'd put Gurley on top of the do not draft RB mountain, up there with D. Cook, all Niners RBs, among others.
If I'm not mistaken Dr Dan had a pretty good summation of Gurley's knee in one of these threads, and that should be more than enough to scare anyone away from selecting Gurley.
point is, he could be really good as usual, but he's just as likely to be riding the bike on the sidelines while you slam your beer mug into the bar countertop at buffalo wild wings because you've just realized you started him and he's sitting the whole game.
it's the maddening 'will he start or won't he?' thing you'll go thru every week. watching injury reports, reading up on him every.single.week. Let someone else deal with it. I wouldnt touch him at all, whether in the first round or the 12th round.
there's only value there if you think he plays 16 games.
I'll bet he plays 8 or fewer games and rushes for 800 or fewer yards. he's almost a decoy at this point.
I say this as someone who has a severely arthritic ankle that's the size of a grapefruit. Old basketball injuries and many sprains. everything around it is inflamed and tender all the time. but I'm not a 20-something RB who relies on his legs. If a team doctor sat him during the biggest game of his career, as well as the other playoff games, and they trade up 24 spots to grab Henderson, you KNOW the writing is on the wall for Gurley.
I'd put Gurley on top of the do not draft RB mountain, up there with D. Cook, all Niners RBs, among others.
If I'm not mistaken Dr Dan had a pretty good summation of Gurley's knee in one of these threads, and that should be more than enough to scare anyone away from selecting Gurley.
point is, he could be really good as usual, but he's just as likely to be riding the bike on the sidelines while you slam your beer mug into the bar countertop at buffalo wild wings because you've just realized you started him and he's sitting the whole game.
it's the maddening 'will he start or won't he?' thing you'll go thru every week. watching injury reports, reading up on him every.single.week. Let someone else deal with it. I wouldnt touch him at all, whether in the first round or the 12th round.
there's only value there if you think he plays 16 games.
I'll bet he plays 8 or fewer games and rushes for 800 or fewer yards. he's almost a decoy at this point.
I say this as someone who has a severely arthritic ankle that's the size of a grapefruit. Old basketball injuries and many sprains. everything around it is inflamed and tender all the time. but I'm not a 20-something RB who relies on his legs. If a team doctor sat him during the biggest game of his career, as well as the other playoff games, and they trade up 24 spots to grab Henderson, you KNOW the writing is on the wall for Gurley.
Actually it's one 3rd round pick, pick 99 at the end of the round, to move up 24 spots from 94 to 70
TheWinz
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Some telling stats...
- Weeks 1-8 he averaged 21 carries, then it dropped to 14 for the next 3 weeks, then a spike back up to 23 for a week. Why the spike? Because they had a bye week and he got 2 weeks rest. The following two weeks he went back down to 11, followed by 12. Why? Because it hurts, that's why. Then he takes nearly a month off, comes back for 16 carries, and follows it up with 4 carries. Why? Because it hurts, that's why. Then he gets 10 carries in the biggest game of his life?
Now here's the fun part - you're gonna have to draft him without seeing him perform in the preseason, because he can't afford to waste whatever he has left in those knees. Also, you are going to be told he's fine by every Rams trainer and coach, because it's their job. I will be passing him up for sure, unless he falls to about the 6th round, which he won't. He is standing at the cliff's edge, but he is a trooper. I can only imagine how sore he is after a game.
- Weeks 1-8 he averaged 21 carries, then it dropped to 14 for the next 3 weeks, then a spike back up to 23 for a week. Why the spike? Because they had a bye week and he got 2 weeks rest. The following two weeks he went back down to 11, followed by 12. Why? Because it hurts, that's why. Then he takes nearly a month off, comes back for 16 carries, and follows it up with 4 carries. Why? Because it hurts, that's why. Then he gets 10 carries in the biggest game of his life?
Now here's the fun part - you're gonna have to draft him without seeing him perform in the preseason, because he can't afford to waste whatever he has left in those knees. Also, you are going to be told he's fine by every Rams trainer and coach, because it's their job. I will be passing him up for sure, unless he falls to about the 6th round, which he won't. He is standing at the cliff's edge, but he is a trooper. I can only imagine how sore he is after a game.
ChuckLiddell
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This is a good post,. Even though it is in no way what I want to see, it is tough to dispute what you are pointing out. Still hope like heck that you are coming to the wrong conclusion, but its a difficult position to defend.
