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5 minutes ago, Sarlakticacid said:

It looked like Gurley was in on the short TD everyone pushed him over for

He absolutely was.  

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Todd Gurley played just 46-of-75 snaps (60.5%) in the Week 7 win over the Falcons.

That 60.5% snap share was Gurley's lowest mark of the season. The blowout may have played a factor. Gurley missed Week 6 with a quad injury after being in on a season-high 93% of the downs in Week 5. Darrell Henderson was in on 34.2% of the snaps against the Falcons, getting 12 touches to Gurley's 19. Gurley, of course, found the end zone and will remain an RB2 in a high-end Rams offense. Henderson, though, is someone to obviously own again in redraft formats, especially if he's able to leapfrog Malcolm Brown, who missed Week 8.

SOURCE: John Daigle on Twitter

Oct 21, 2019, 8:00 PM ET

 

 

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Todd Gurley rushed 10 times for 44 yards and one touchdown in the Rams' Week 8 win over the Bengals.

He didn't catch a pass on one target. Backfield mate Darrell Henderson out-carried Gurley 11-10 and produced 49 yards rushing while adding two catches for 20 yards. Late in the game, Gurley was seen getting treatment on his knee with the Rams up by two touchdowns. Last year's version of Gurley would have flirted with 30 touches in this game script. That Gurley is gone. The Rams are doing everything to keep him fresh for a potential playoff run. L.A. has a Week 9 bye.

Oct 27, 2019, 5:04 PM ET

 

 

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He's "too good" to sit but he is just mediocre week to week. The OL is horrible and the scheme has been solved by the defenses. 

A complete afterthought in the passing game as well. 

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17 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

In redraft would you trade him? Would you trade for him? What would you give or want to get?

I gave Gurley and Hilton for Evans and Breida weeks ago. 
 

I thought I gave too much up but it’s turned out well. Unfortunately I traded away Evans shortly after that and missed some of his big games.

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When asked about Todd Gurley's relatively light workload in Week 10, Rams coach Sean McVay said, "That was just kind of the rotation."

He didn't see the ball at all in the fourth quarter, logging his final touch of the afternoon with a minute to go in the third quarter. Gurley wasn't benched—he was in on 11 of L.A.'s 17 fourth-quarter snaps—but the Rams didn't call any plays for him. Game script may have played a role in Gurley's scarce usage as the Rams were playing from behind at Pittsburgh, though it's still surprising Los Angeles would go away from its star running back at such a pivotal juncture. Even with the abbreviated workload, Gurley still had one of his better rushing performances of the season, averaging 6.1 yards per carry while logging his most rushing yards (73) since Week 1.

SOURCE: The Athletic

Nov 11, 2019, 10:39 AM ET

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I can somewhat understand the limited carriers...but the lack of usage in the passing game is just mind-boggling.

0-1 catches in 5 out of 8 games this year after averaging 60+ recpts/yr the past couple years...McVay is lost.

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16 minutes ago, PhantomJB said:

I can somewhat understand the limited carriers...but the lack of usage in the passing game is just mind-boggling.

0-1 catches in 5 out of 8 games this year after averaging 60+ recpts/yr the past couple years...McVay is lost.

He was targeted 4 times yesterday.

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33 minutes ago, VikingFrog said:

He was targeted 4 times yesterday.

0 catches.

Four games with one target.

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Gurley was easily the most effective runner yesterday,  soooo why have a rotation....unless you are managing his workload,  which supposedly isn't happening🙄

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2 hours ago, ChuckLiddell said:

When asked about Todd Gurley's relatively light workload in Week 10, Rams coach Sean McVay said, "That was just kind of the rotation."

 

Mcvay has gone full blown clown mode. 6.1 ypc.

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1 hour ago, PhantomJB said:

0 catches.

Four games with one target.

More proof, McVay is a total clown. Don't own Gurley but man, Id be pissed if I did.

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1 minute ago, lod001 said:

More proof, McVay is a total clown. Don't own Gurley but man, Id be pissed if I did.

From genius to total clown in less than a year. Wow.

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Todd Gurley had 25 carries for 97 yards and a touchdown and caught three passes for 36 yards in the Rams' Week 11 win over Chicago.

The Rams made a point to feature Gurley after his light Week 10 workload. He touched the ball on 12 of the first 17 plays and rarely came off the field, playing 75 percent of snaps. Gurley converted a goal-line carry for his touchdown, but he wasn’t great in short-yardage spots, getting stuffed on a few third and shorts. Gurley had a touchdown vultured by Malcolm Brown with the Rams staying in the no-huddle after a Gerald Everett catch set them up inside the five-yard line. Still, this was the type of game the Rams needed from Gurley, who didn't have more than 18 carries in any game going into Sunday night. Gurley will face a Ravens defensive line that’s been gutted by injuries on Monday night in Week 12.

Nov 17, 2019, 11:25 PM ET

 

 

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Yes, we haven't seen the full on RB1 numbers in the sense of "Elite", but he has silently produced pretty consistent numbers this year.

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 I didn’t watch the whole game last night but I watch the last quarter or so and what I saw was a sluggish Gurlley.  I saw him try to hit the edge a few times and he just did not have any burst but again that was only about the last quarter and a half or so. 

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7 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

 I didn’t watch the whole game last night but I watch the last quarter or so and what I saw was a sluggish Gurlley.  I saw him try to hit the edge a few times and he just did not have any burst but again that was only about the last quarter and a half or so. 

Yeah don't get me wrong I will take the points, but on that 3rd down from around the 10 at the end I thought he was going to score for sure and I think the old Gurley does every time.

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6 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

 I didn’t watch the whole game last night but I watch the last quarter or so and what I saw was a sluggish Gurlley.  I saw him try to hit the edge a few times and he just did not have any burst but again that was only about the last quarter and a half or so. 

Tale of two halves. After halftime the Bears switched to a 6-man front that the Rams had no answer for. First half was just like old times, including screen game.

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2 minutes ago, PhantomJB said:

Tale of two halves. After halftime the Bears switched to a 6-man front that the Rams had no answer for. First half was just like old times, including screen game.

What about the burst tho? 

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Just now, Rhythmdoctor said:

What about the burst tho? 

Looked just fine to me. Good vision picking the hole, acceleration through it and drive at the end of the run. Multiple 7-12 yard chunk runs in the first half.

I don't know enough about blocking schemes to answer why the Rams couldn't handle the adjustment...but on almost every early down in the 2nd half it looked like a 3rd-and-1 defensive alignment. Kwiatkoski the ILB played every down in first half and maybe only 25% in 2nd.

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25 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

 I didn’t watch the whole game last night but I watch the last quarter or so and what I saw was a sluggish Gurlley.  I saw him try to hit the edge a few times and he just did not have any burst but again that was only about the last quarter and a half or so. 

When a running back has a big hole to run through, they look like they have burst.  When blocking is poor, they look sluggish.  A Lamborghini will look slow in a traffic jam.

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53 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

When a running back has a big hole to run through, they look like they have burst.  When blocking is poor, they look sluggish.  A Lamborghini will look slow in a traffic jam.

I’m talking specifically about hitting the edge. He was slow. No defenders just a sprint to the edge and he couldn’t get there. 

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6 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I’m talking specifically about hitting the edge. He was slow. No defenders just a sprint to the edge and he couldn’t get there. 

It wouldn't be surprising if he has lost a step with the knee problems he has had.  But maybe he has become a smarter runner where he is patient and waits for his blocking to create a whole to burst through.  He definitely has become more of a north-south power runner since entering McVay's system.  His style now reminds me of Le'Veon Bell whereas in his rookie year he seemed to be running more east-west like Adrian Peterson.  Here are a few of Gurley's first half carries.  He is moving pretty efficiently for a bigger running back.

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1 hour ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I’m talking specifically about hitting the edge. He was slow. No defenders just a sprint to the edge and he couldn’t get there. 

Having watched every snap of Gurley’s career I never thought he looked fast or explosive.  Don’t get me wrong he is, he just never looked it.  His style is smooth and powerful, pretty much the exact opposite of what say Kyler Murray or Cohen look like.  He doesn’t look any different to me other then he seems to me to be playing it safe when in a pile vs before he used to try and breakthrough the other side.  Now he seems to be going in head first and down, almost falling down into the tackle not try to run through it.  Really not sure why.  As for last night on the runs to the edge, specifically those in the second half, none of them had me thinking he looked any slower or that he would have gotten that corner last year.  

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40 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Having watched every snap of Gurley’s career I never thought he looked fast or explosive.  Don’t get me wrong he is, he just never looked it.  His style is smooth and powerful, pretty much the exact opposite of what say Kyler Murray or Cohen look like.  He doesn’t look any different to me other then he seems to me to be playing it safe when in a pile vs before he used to try and breakthrough the other side.  Now he seems to be going in head first and down, almost falling down into the tackle not try to run through it.  Really not sure why.  As for last night on the runs to the edge, specifically those in the second half, none of them had me thinking he looked any slower or that he would have gotten that corner last year.  

I appreciate your perspective. I haven’t watched a ton of Gurley since he’s been in the league. I’ve oseen a good handful but not dozens. So I appreciate your input. So in your opinion, is he the same old Gurley physically?

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Just now, Rhythmdoctor said:

I appreciate your perspective. I haven’t watched a ton of Gurley since he’s been in the league. I’ve oseen a good handful but not dozens. So I appreciate your input. So in your opinion, is he the same old Gurley physically?

Thx.  
 

There’s obviously something there there,  it’s hard to argue there isn’t.  But from the eye test I don’t see anything noticeable from a burst or speed perspective, certainly nothing large enough to explain the drop of.  That’s due to a Myriad of other factors, one of those being a lightened workload

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I am hoping yesterday's increased usage is a sign of things to come.  They've been cautious so far but now they need to push the envelope a bit since they are outside of the playoffs currently.  Wishful thinking?

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10 minutes ago, worrierking said:

I am hoping yesterday's increased usage is a sign of things to come.  They've been cautious so far but now they need to push the envelope a bit since they are outside of the playoffs currently.  Wishful thinking?

It would make sense. Saving him for the playoffs doesn’t work if they don’t make it. Not advocating running him into the ground but increased usage seems to be on the horizon. 

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Funny that when Chicago was NOT running the 6-1, Gurley did great.  Then in the second half, they put in 6-1 and poof.  The same scheme every other team has used.  McVay simply hasn't figured out how to counter that scheme.  Surprised that the Bears didn't use it from the get go, considering it was originally rolled out last year by Fangio as the Rams killer.

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I hold the opinion that Gurley will be given a large workload ros. If he holds up  he could be a league winner. Hoping so as I bought him in one of my leagues for what I consider to be extremely cheap 

 

The Rams are struggling to fond an offensive identity having him on a pitch count. If they continue they will miss the playoffs. This week is an indication of a change following the bye, IMO. Not a bad time to sell if you're hurting, as he seems to have an uptick in value right now. otherwise ride this wave until he breaks down 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Dan said:

I hold the opinion that Gurley will be given a large workload ros. If he holds up  he could be a league winner. Hoping so as I bought him in one of my leagues for what I consider to be extremely cheap 

 

The Rams are struggling to fond an offensive identity having him on a pitch count. If they continue they will miss the playoffs. This week is an indication of a change following the bye, IMO. Not a bad time to sell if you're hurting, as he seems to have an uptick in value right now. otherwise ride this wave until he breaks down 

He’s on my roster and I disagree, based on first half vs second half of the last game, as well as the rest of their games this far. I still believe it comes down to whether or not the opposition believes they can beat them by removing Gurley. If they do, they know what to do (6-1 defense).  McVay seems incapable of figuring out to counter it and seems content to roll with Goff getting it done, which has obviously been met with mixed results. 
 

He’s still starting for me as I have no better options. 

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1 minute ago, -jb- said:

He’s on my roster and I disagree, based on first half vs second half of the last game, as well as the rest of their games this far. I still believe it comes down to whether or not the opposition believes they can beat them by removing Gurley. If they do, they know what to do (6-1 defense).  McVay seems incapable of figuring out to counter it and seems content to roll with Goff getting it done, which has obviously been met with mixed results. 
 

He’s still starting for me as I have no better options. 

This is a good point. it does depend on the defense. I am mostly pointing out that at this point I wo7ldnt be worried about gurleys knee as I think they are prepared to run him into the ground. 

One thing to keep in mind, of his remaining 5 games, 3 are against teams in the bottom 50% in rushing 

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Just now, Dr. Dan said:

This is a good point. it does depend on the defense. I am mostly pointing out that at this point I wo7ldnt be worried about gurleys knee as I think they are prepared to run him into the ground. 

One thing to keep in mind, of his remaining 5 games, 3 are against teams in the bottom 50% in rushing 

Ah got it. Yeah I was never worried about the knee and was happy to draft him in the second. Clearly didn’t see this scheming thing coming. 

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3 hours ago, -jb- said:

He’s on my roster and I disagree, based on first half vs second half of the last game, as well as the rest of their games this far. I still believe it comes down to whether or not the opposition believes they can beat them by removing Gurley. If they do, they know what to do (6-1 defense).  McVay seems incapable of figuring out to counter it and seems content to roll with Goff getting it done, which has obviously been met with mixed results. 
 

He’s still starting for me as I have no better options. 

While I absolutely hate it this posts is exactly how I feel. (Btw my hate is not for the poster in any way but purely due to frustration with Rams coaching).  McVay has not been able to figure out the 6-1 and this along with the O-line hot mess are the 2 driving factors in the Rams poor season so far.  I too have Gurley in my lineup and have to,  but I’m not confident at all and it almost has nothing to do with Gurley himself

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Three main issues with Gurley and none of them are Gurley.

McVay cannot game plan properly against a 6-1 defense

The OL has been bad

Goff is no threat to the defense

If McVay could figure out how to scheme against the 6-1 and the Rams kept their O-line together and Goff kept offenses honest, that would equal great things for Gurley. 

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This guy is toast. Granted, the line isn't as good and the offense generally sucks. But you can see the difference between early last year and this year.

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

so much for that guarantee that Gurley finishes top 5rb

PPB

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Todd Gurley rushed six times for 22 yards in the Rams' 45-6, Week 12 loss to the Ravens.

He "added" three catches for -3 yards. Getting stomped from the opening kickoff, the Rams ran the ball eight times in this one. Gurley had arguably his best game of the season against the Bears in Week 11 with 27 touches. But if the Rams can't stay close on the scoreboard, Gurley is rendered useless. Things should be better next week in Arizona, but this Rams team is insanely bad. They're going to have trouble with Kyler Murray on a short week heading out on the road.

 

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On 5/24/2019 at 8:22 AM, dkp993 said:

Buy buy buy, and this is coming from a guy who was all over him being injured at the end of last year.  While the back end of Gurley’s career is likely cut short he’ll be fine for a few more years.  It’s like everyone is forgetting this guy was the best RB (FF wise) the last 2+ yrs.  

Guarantee he finishes as a top 5 RB in PPR’s.  

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1 hour ago, Dr. Dan said:

I think you mean dkp

Yep, pretty funny he and all the other Gurley fans kept reporting me when I said he was just a guy.  Might not even finish top 100 in PPR for W/R and basically ruined everyone's draft this year at his ADP.

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