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Who will be the next hot RB pickup? (1 Viewer)
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Damien Williams, Silas Redd and Branden Oliver. :IBTL:
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I like the Blue call... I would think Dunbar would at least split with Joe Randle.
Bobbyn2022
Footballguy
Anderson is my pick. I think Ball drops the ball. I also like A.Williams as the best handcuff
Beside hill out there.
Beside hill out there.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
CJ Anderson. Wish I had room for him on my roster right now, but with bye weeks looming next week I have to roster an extra qb and receiver.
Note that the last two starting running backs playing Seattle, left injured.
May have to dump Moreno and take a flyer on CJAnderson2K
Note that the last two starting running backs playing Seattle, left injured.
May have to dump Moreno and take a flyer on CJAnderson2K
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MarcO
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seahawk 17
Footballguy
Robert Turbin. Lynch is hurt, broke down, and more importantly pissed off. He's going to collect a check, or lead the league in yards and TD's.
93_Confirmed
Footballguy
Foster is on par for 440 carries and there's no way his body survives this workload. Alfred Blue will take over sooner than later.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Why not predict who the next big RB to get injured will be?
Because that's what drives the matter. You're putting the cart before the horse.
dagwood
Footballguy
Braktastic
Footballguy
Blue due to a Foster injury or McKinnon due to more talent than Asiata are my guesses.
Resident A
Footballguy
CJ Anderson & Turbin.
Also Dunbar. There's 0% chance DeMarco Murray will hold up with the volume he's getting.
Also Dunbar. There's 0% chance DeMarco Murray will hold up with the volume he's getting.
It's gotta be one of Anderson, Turbin, or Dunbar.
Highest ceiling and most likely to be used has to be Turbin... Lynch is beaten up and Turbin is the clear feature back right now with Christine Michaels ailing. Dunbar is 200 lbs and not an early down back... he would split time with Randle. Anderson would split time with Hillman.
There were actually leagues where people dropped Turbin recently... I made a spot for him wherever he was available.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
this pretty much boils down to what ever starting RB gets hurt.
In my re-draft leagues benches are short, so you cant really hold handcuffs
In my re-draft leagues benches are short, so you cant really hold handcuffs
Unless its <6 spots you should make room. In 12-team leagues I almost never carry a 2nd QB/TE/DEF/K. I would much rather hold 4 spots for handcuff/upside RBs and two spots for upside late pick WRs. It's working wonders so far, as I've had Knile Davis and Bernard Pierce on most teams, over WR4/5s or backup QBs. Those two are paying massive dividends this weekend. Just traded Pierce for a major WR upgrade (Jeffrey+Pierce for Julio).
Basically I think you need to go upside on your bench instead of bye-week fillers.
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Craig_MiamiFL
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I don't see even it if Ellington does go down.
I don't see them letting Taylor tote it 20x at a 3.0 ypc clip. He's as underwhelming talent at RB as you'll see in the NFL. I don't even think he'll get the volume. I'd expect Robert Hughes, Chris Rainey (if promoted from PS) or another yet to be signed back to steal touches. Bunch of subpar talents dividing up work. No thanks.
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Chaka
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McKinnon is incredibly raw and I doubt his ability to read and pick up blitzes is reliable enough to warrant being a #1 RB.
I'm thinking about doing this to be honest, just to try something different, especially with all the injuries and a losing record. Dropping all of the bye week fillers (F-Jax, Vereen, Wayne, etc), and load up on 4 of the top RB handcuffs. Trying to deal these guys in trades is nearly impossible for some reason. However, this will cause a few league members to spend some FAAB dollars on acquiring them while potentially dropping more under-the-radar prospects into the pool of free agents. Looking at the stat sheet, some of these backup guys are getting enough garbage time points that almost rivals what the fillers are already producing.
I'm not sure who else to list or how you would rank them in terms of preference, but it looks like these are the guys to have so far include:
CJ Anderson
Alfred Blue
Jerick McKinnon
Damien Willams
Robert Turbin
Storm Johnson
Silas Redd
Lance Dunbar
Latavius Murray
Braktastic
Footballguy
How about a poll?
I own Murray and Ellington, and I'm scared to death that either of them can make it through the season unscathed, but when I had an extra roster spot I picked up Blue over Dunbar or Taylor. It ultimately came down to this. Even if Dunbar or Taylor inherit their respective jobs, I'm still not sure they're startable over my backup RBs (Bradshaw/Woodhead). Blue, however, might be.
chinawildman
Footballguy
I agree, I think McKinnon's ceiling this year is like a CJ Spiller role w Asiata playing the part of FJax.
massraider
Footballguy
Ball will probably have a quiet game vs. Seattle, I imagine CJ Anderson should be rostered, before the questions get louder.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Well looking at the list of Fragile/injured/Iffy starters the following guys that I haven't seen mentioned come to mind...
Mike Tolbert
Mike James
Dan Herron
Mike Tolbert
Mike James
Dan Herron
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The best situation seems to be Turbin.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I think this is a very good comparison usage wise, although FJax is obviously more gifted than Asiata.
Chaka
Footballguy
Tolbert missed practice yesterday with a chest injury. Surprisingly Jonathan Stewart is the only healthy running back for the Panthers.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
You guys think McKinnon will get 15 touches/game?
Unless he is a prodigy in pass blocking I doubt that sincerely. Guy is very raw at the RB position.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I found it funny that amidst all RB injuries JStew and DMAC came out of their games unscathed last week.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
When MIN goes down 2 scores vs. NO this week and Cassel has to air it out, who do you think we'll see on the field? McKinnon who whiffed on 1 of his 2 blocking assignments or Asiata who was perfect on all 11.
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Sample size to small to draw conclusions. Asiata graded out as one of the worst pass blocking RB's in the NFL last year in his limited time. I don't think we know enough yet about either of them as consistently good pass protectors.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
chad in Indy
Footballguy
Damien Williams should be the immediate benefactor as Miami was already doing a timeshare and he should fill Moreno's role.
Turbin is the best speculation as Lynch has a history of back problems.
I still think Anderson won't surpass Ball unless he falls on his face for misreads/blown assignments. It was the same argument to get Moreno out of there last year when he wasn't avg. a high YPC.
Donald Brown (if available) should do well for at least 4 weeks while Mathews is out. SD offense has looked very efficient and they have a nice schedule with games against Jax and Oakland looming.
Turbin is the best speculation as Lynch has a history of back problems.
I still think Anderson won't surpass Ball unless he falls on his face for misreads/blown assignments. It was the same argument to get Moreno out of there last year when he wasn't avg. a high YPC.
Donald Brown (if available) should do well for at least 4 weeks while Mathews is out. SD offense has looked very efficient and they have a nice schedule with games against Jax and Oakland looming.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Didn't Hillman beat out Anderson for the backup job in preseason then got nicked up?
Edited: I haven't been keeping up with Hillman lately, so what did he and Webster do to cause them to have to go to the ER and subsequently get demoted? It must have been bad.
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Sure but they've also said multiple times the plan was to bring McKinnon along as a third down/COP back and the fact remains while nice words are great Asiata was terrible in his limited pass blocking attempts last season and not very good in the preseason either, graded out worse than McKinnon. In all cases I believe the sample size is to small to rely on.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
and then there's this...
Vikings OC Norv Turner said he will use both Matt Asiata and Jerick McKinnon in Sunday's game against the Saints.
Turner added that he might use one back more than the other if someone gets a hot hand. Asiata will have the first crack to get that hot hand as he'll almost certainly start the game, but we know this low-upside bulldozer with a career 3.56 YPC won't help the Adrian Peterson-less Vikings move the ball consistently. The freaky McKinnon could, but has to prove reliable and pass protect better (one sack allowed on three pass pro chances Week 2). Asiata remains the "safer" Week 3 fantasy flex play, but McKinnon is the better long-term hold.
Vikings OC Norv Turner said he will use both Matt Asiata and Jerick McKinnon in Sunday's game against the Saints.
Turner added that he might use one back more than the other if someone gets a hot hand. Asiata will have the first crack to get that hot hand as he'll almost certainly start the game, but we know this low-upside bulldozer with a career 3.56 YPC won't help the Adrian Peterson-less Vikings move the ball consistently. The freaky McKinnon could, but has to prove reliable and pass protect better (one sack allowed on three pass pro chances Week 2). Asiata remains the "safer" Week 3 fantasy flex play, but McKinnon is the better long-term hold.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
From yahoo today:
Sounds like they are willing to let McKinnon show what he's got a bit more
he didn't get nicked up. Him and Webster did "something" in Houston for their preseason game and ended up in the hospital. They've yet to make it out of Fox's doghouse.
Chaka
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
McKinnon saw ~20 snaps last week if I'm not mistaken. Saying they'll both see work is akin to Norv saying "We'll let more than one RB touch the ball again this week vs. NO." which is exactly what happened last week. I have no doubt that it's possible McKinnon starts to see more 1st and 2nd down work as we move forward but if MIN finds themselves down early vs. NO I just don't see them leaning on McKinnon in passing situations. They also have a tough upcoming schedule consisting of ATL, GB and DET, each of which have very potent offenses. I'm not delusional, Asiata will never get the "hot hand" (unless someone literally lights his hand on fire) but McKinnon expectations need to be kept in check as well. We watched Mendenhall hold back Ellington and BGE hold back Gio just last year and both are out of jobs this year. Although the aforementioned "plodders" might be more talented than Asiata, the RBs they were holding back were also a lot more polished than McKinnon, who never even lined up as a traditional RB in college. Expectations need to be kept in check for both.
Chaka
Footballguy
No RB gets all the snaps.
And the fact also remains that McKinnon is a converted college QB who has never had to read blitzing LBs & DBs and is learning on the fly. He may have freaky running ability but one of the most consistent truisms in football is that head coaches and offensive coordinators will play the running back they believe will make the fewest mistakes. Giving up sacks, which lead to turnovers and QB injuries is the cardinal sin for a RB. Every year people choose to ignore that because some RB or another runs real pretty in preseason or has freakish measurables.
McKinnon will see some time, there is no question about that, but until the team has more faith in him than Asiata to limit mistakes then Asiata will be the lead back. This will apply doubly when Bridgewater gets in there because there is no way they will want to risk their shiny new first round QB any more than is absolutely necessary.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
It will probably look nice and garner him more 1st and 2nd down work? Trick question?
I'm sure Ellington and Gio broke off some nice runs last year.
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Chaka
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Looks like Ellington's long of last year was in fact 80 yards haha. Mendenhall still touched the ball 230 times, running at 3.2 yards a clip and is now retired.
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