Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That was never my position - that was something ridiculous that I mocked and called a trainwreck.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
Lesean McCoy? How concerned are we? (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter Sabertooth
- Start date
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
To be fair,it it was some herpes symplex 10 kinda shiz it'd probably be tough to run effectively as well.
And hey, we can't completely discount the report because Marcus Vick apparently claimed that Shady gave his baby mama the herps. And no, I'm not joking. I googled McCoy+Herpes and that came up from a few months ago.
So it's possible that the person here who posited that theory either is Marcus Vick, or that was his source.
Football Guys - all the herpes news, all the time.
How concerned are we? Jennings missed 3 games with a thumb sprain. I'm not sure if McCoy tore any ligaments but baseball players who tear that UCL in their thumbs miss two months. Granted they hold a bat so I could see the long timeframe. But McCoy is set for surgery. Supposedly he was in so much pain that it was difficult to put his thumb back in place. I'm no doctor but I find it hard to believe that he plays this week. We'll probably get more answers tomorrow.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I hadn't heard that it was a pain issue for McCoy. I saw a report that what can happen with a thumb dislocation is that the tendon gets trapped under the bone and the bone won't go back into place. So they do surgery to move the tendon and the bone oops right back in.
With the team seeming to strongly believe he'll be good to go this week, I'm guessing the x-rays or whatever already lead them to believe that there's no damage there.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Are we sure he hurt his thumb or is this just covering up another outbreak?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Pro Football Talk reports LeSean McCoy had surgery on his dislocated thumb Monday, but he is expected to play Week 12.
McCoy reportedly could have reentered the game against the Bengals, but the training staff was not able to relocate his thumb on the sideline or in the locker room. He will almost certainly sit out some practice time this week, but McCoy should be tentatively expected to play against the Jaguars. Mike Gillislee would get the nod if McCoy cannot go, and he likely will see a larger share of the snaps either way, especially if McCoy's ability to catch the ball is compromised.
McCoy reportedly could have reentered the game against the Bengals, but the training staff was not able to relocate his thumb on the sideline or in the locker room. He will almost certainly sit out some practice time this week, but McCoy should be tentatively expected to play against the Jaguars. Mike Gillislee would get the nod if McCoy cannot go, and he likely will see a larger share of the snaps either way, especially if McCoy's ability to catch the ball is compromised.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Geez
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This confuses me. I've had RBs who had hand injuries in the past - none came back the very next week.
McCoy'a needed surgery, yet the Bills expect him back next week?
Silly question perhaps, but don't you need thumbs to carry the ball or catch the ball?
hes gonna be all better in 6 days after getting his thumb cut open and relocated?
I think the Bills may be optimistic in their reporting.
McCoy'a needed surgery, yet the Bills expect him back next week?
Silly question perhaps, but don't you need thumbs to carry the ball or catch the ball?
hes gonna be all better in 6 days after getting his thumb cut open and relocated?
I think the Bills may be optimistic in their reporting.
Bramel already did a little write up on this. Says there are two joints in the thumb. The one connecting at the hand is more troublesome vs. the one in the middle of the thumb. Apparently, this injury is on the less troublesome joint.This confuses me. I've had RBs who had hand injuries in the past - none came back the very next week.
McCoy'a needed surgery, yet the Bills expect him back next week?
Silly question perhaps, but don't you need thumbs to carry the ball or catch the ball?
hes gonna be all better in 6 days after getting his thumb cut open and relocated?
I think the Bills may be optimistic in their reporting.
Regardless, it seems silly to me that he would get a full workload if he plays, especially in the passing game (and especially since they have a capable Gillislee).
All that said, Ryan seems determined to continually make the wrong choice when it comes to McCoy.
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
Well, they can maybe lose 1 game if they want to make the playoffs. And from the moment the game ended this news has been out there regarding McCoy being able to play next week. It sounded like they knew during the game what the issue was, but couldn't correct it at the time. You're assuming Rex rushed to judgment and said McCoy was playing before talking to the doctors. I mean, the procedure is already done, so that's pretty fast acting. Catching the ball might be troublesome, but holding onto the ball will probably be an issue too.
Weebs210
Footballguy
That gutless fraud has helped lock me into the playoffs already. Maybe you drafted bad?
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
He was headed for a monster day against Cincy. Ugh. FWIW I think Robert Woods was in the midst of a breakout as well before going down.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I don't know why but this made me laugh.
Anyway, I like how the title of this thread seems to be perpetually appropriate.
Nick VeronicaVerified account
Tyrod Taylor said LeSean McCoy (dislocated thumb) was able to catch passes Wednesday. "I'm expecting him to play."
Vic CarucciVerified account
Josh ReedVerified account
Nick VeronicaVerified account
Rex Ryan says his biggest concern w/ LeSean McCoy is that his thumb doesn't get infected after surgery. Not usage though, which sounds good
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
LOL, me too. I basically have the #1 seed and a bye locked up in the league I have McCoy. Basically = 2 game lead on everyone and the tie-breaker is points scored and I'm 10%+ ahead of the only guys who could tie me if they win 2 and I lose 2. I hope he sits and keeps getting the rest. I'm kind of glad I also have Murray and his week 13 bye to get some rest as well. McCoy and Murray have been much better than I expected after I went WR heavy and I wish I grabbed McCoy in the 2 other leagues I drafted Keenan Allen in.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
I'm here to kiss and makeup with McCoy. 
Yes I complained when you left that game after you broke your fingernail, err thumb, and those other times when you pretended to have a hamstring injury but really had an STD, and for that time you gave me 2 points after I started you after you said that hammy was fine. Yes, like I fool I trusted you over and over and you hurt me, you hurt me bad, but ohhh did you deliver the past month capped off by helping me blow away the competition in the playoffs this week to the point that its over before the afternoon games even started ... you rose to the occasion in the playoffs this week!
I complained and you listened, I murmured and you made amends. LeSean, I can't quit you.
Yes I complained when you left that game after you broke your fingernail, err thumb, and those other times when you pretended to have a hamstring injury but really had an STD, and for that time you gave me 2 points after I started you after you said that hammy was fine. Yes, like I fool I trusted you over and over and you hurt me, you hurt me bad, but ohhh did you deliver the past month capped off by helping me blow away the competition in the playoffs this week to the point that its over before the afternoon games even started ... you rose to the occasion in the playoffs this week!
I complained and you listened, I murmured and you made amends. LeSean, I can't quit you.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Careful you might catch something.I'm here to kiss and makeup with McCoy.
a bad case of kickass
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Shady should be the clear #4 FF RB after LeVeon, David Johnson and Zeke.
Nagging injuries will drive his owners nuts, but he should be in for another big year. And no Gilly to vulture TDs. Will likely go in most standard drafts at 1.07 after Antonio Brown, OBJ and Julio.
Nagging injuries will drive his owners nuts, but he should be in for another big year. And no Gilly to vulture TDs. Will likely go in most standard drafts at 1.07 after Antonio Brown, OBJ and Julio.
Last edited by a moderator:
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Any idea on his handcuff yet?
ryno1980
Footballguy
I'm hearing two different camps when it comes to McCoy. The first camp says that the entire offense will revolve around him and he will be a three down back plus all the red zone/goal line work. The other camp says the Bills are in rebuilding mode and they are going to want to see how the younger backs are and McCoy could be phased out as the year progresses. Tough call on a guy who is going between 1.4 and 1.7.
Shutout
Footballguy
It's hard to follow that line of thinking. If you are in rebuilding mode, you trade the guy and get draft picks or younger talent. You don't half-use a 29 year old running back and toss away any value you had with him.
If you don't know what you have in those young guys by now, what were you doing all year and last? Plus if you're in rebuild mode and you don't know if you like what you have on the roster (arent sold on a young guy) then the answer is obvious: he's not on the team yet...Which makes even more sense to go get more draft picks.
This sounds like a speculation topic of someone wanting to spin a what if (not you, just saying in general this sounds like someone played devil's advocate and it got picked up and ran with).
In reality, just doesn't make a lot of sense.
If you don't know what you have in those young guys by now, what were you doing all year and last? Plus if you're in rebuild mode and you don't know if you like what you have on the roster (arent sold on a young guy) then the answer is obvious: he's not on the team yet...Which makes even more sense to go get more draft picks.
This sounds like a speculation topic of someone wanting to spin a what if (not you, just saying in general this sounds like someone played devil's advocate and it got picked up and ran with).
In reality, just doesn't make a lot of sense.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Camp two is wrong. He won't be traded this off season. He's a 29 year old RB whose making 7+ million. The Bills have an out after the 2018 season. And not have to pay a 31 year old RB 7m. Now I can easily see him banged up late in the year and them resting him.
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
Ravens defense looked legit, hope this drives down Mccoys cost. Love to get him around 9 or 10 in redraft
Johnnymac
Footballguy
I got him at #9 in my draft earlier today. 12 team non-ppr. I was happy to take him there.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Is there a backup worth owning in Buffalo?
Or do you just look elsewhere if something were to happen.
Or do you just look elsewhere if something were to happen.
simey
Footballguy
whiskey7
Footballguy
This
I think it behooves the McCoy owner to get Williams, too. I think there will be some weekly work for him with the potential for bigger stats/points if McCoy misses any time (which I would not bet against). Price is currently very low so its a good get, IMO.
Chaka
Footballguy
There are so many unknowns with the new coaching staff, Taylor's concussion and the dearth of talent at the skill positions.
McCoy has the ability to make chicken salad from chicken feathers but I am not sure we can say the same about any other RB on their roster. If McCoy gets hurt defenses are going to tighten up even more and I just don't see a lot of production coming from anyone other than McCoy.
So, yeah any true backup RB is probably worth considering but I would temper expectations.
Weebs210
Footballguy
It's going to be painful to watch McCoy take them to the two yard line only for the Michelin Man to vulture his TDs.
CentralPA
Footballguy
Weebs210
Footballguy
Don't get me wrong McCoy in standard has a great chance to be top 5 RB either way. I just witnessed that to many times last year with McCoy and Gill.
Last edited by a moderator:
CentralPA
Footballguy
I haven't check but I always thought historically Tolbert wasn't all that great of a GL back but not sure.
