Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Depends. They need O Linemen. They could conceivably improve enough to make the playoffs.
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Lesean McCoy? How concerned are we? (1 Viewer)
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Man I have a hard time seeing how. I mean Allen’s gonna go through some growing pains and they’re not doing him any favors with possible the worst receiving core in the league and McCoys prob still good although who can really tell since he gets so few opportunities to do anything.Hairy Snowman said:
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
With some lineman, they won't be the worst in the league. Good lines hide a lot of flaws.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
must start this week? He shredded the Jets a few weeks ago.....but we know how that goes the 2nd time around
skol asylum
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
He’s hurt.
JamieMurphy
Footballguy
Interesting. Yeldon was quite serviceable in JAC last year, Gore can serve as the mentor for the rookie...there being over 6 million reasons to cut McCoy, I can see him somewhere else next season.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Don't sleep on Marcus Murphy. He had an average per carry of about 1.5 more then McCoy and Ivory last year on a not-terribly-small sample size.beef said:
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Sure, cutting him would only cost 2.6 in dead cap space, but he's on the last year of his contract, so that would only free up cap space this year, no? What's the point? There's really nowhere to spend it at this point. I guess some could roll over to next year...?
All of it would roll over to next year. It's pretty much a no-brainer to cut him IMO (which means they probably won't).
Except for the fact that he's still the best RB on the team, and Buffalo likely believes they are a playoff contender.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
That is totally true, but are they less of a contender without him? They'd still have Gore, Yeldon, Singletary, Murphy.travdogg said:
I'd say, yes, they are a bit less of a contender without him, but last year I feel like I finally saw a tiny bit of a step back in McCoy's quickness. I wouldn't blame them for following the Pats' model of getting rid of a player a year too soon as opposed to a year too late.
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Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
It's definitely a tricky situation. He's clearly still a very good player that could help win a couple games this year, when compared to his replacement(s).humpback said:
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out...
First part is certainly debatable, second part is why the Bills are the Bills. He's not very good, way overpaid, and old with a ton of wear and tear- perfect for a rebuilding team huh?travdogg said:
It's already a year too late.
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ZWK
Footballguy
It sounds like the Bills can save as much money by cutting McCoy just before week 1 as they would've saved by cutting him at the start of the offseason.
I hadn't realized that before, and I'd been surprised that they kept McCoy and I'd figured that it meant that he would be their starter heading into their season. But if they can keep him through the preseason at no cost then it's less surprising that they kept him, and less of a sign that they plan on keeping him on the roster this season. They can make their decisions later on, based on how he & the other RBs look in camp.
I hadn't realized that before, and I'd been surprised that they kept McCoy and I'd figured that it meant that he would be their starter heading into their season. But if they can keep him through the preseason at no cost then it's less surprising that they kept him, and less of a sign that they plan on keeping him on the roster this season. They can make their decisions later on, based on how he & the other RBs look in camp.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Cutting a dude right before week 1 just because you can, well it's just messed up. Gotta hope the Bill's wouldnt stoop to that level.
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
He still jukes defenders and stuff. He doesnt have the same burst, but he had a lot to start. I bet he still beats Montgomery to the 10 yard line.
It's not like hes being drafted to be feature back. I think he's ADP is in the 12th round or something.
electric Ape
Footballguy
Exactly.
It goes against my MO of targeting young ascending players, but I’m ending up with shares of McCoy in early drafts in part because he is going so cheap. Late in the draft you’re usually looking for upside and weirdly I think 31 year old McCoy with 2300+ career carries offers more upside than young guys like Donte Foreman and Duke Johnson who are getting drafted around him.
I can’t argue with someone who wants no part of an older RB in a crowded backfield with stats in decline (and pretty lackluster 2018 tape), but there are scenarios where Buffalo is a better team and their o-line play is significantly better and a less banged up McCoy ends up being sneaky valuable. You’re gambling, but to me it’s a good gamble at ADP. You could almost draft any starting RB profitably as late as he’s going, and McCoy is better than just any RB, he’s only a season or so removed from elite play.
Also bundled in with the McCoy lottery ticket is the chance McCoy and his big contract ends up getting released or traded into a better fantasy situation. Of course he could also end up in a worse situation but since you’re taking him late I think the fact this he is more likely to change teams than the average RB could be a good thing. If he got traded to Tampa Bay like Faust’s article speculates I imagine his fantasy owners would be pretty happy with their investment.
Agreed. McCoy is very undervalued right now. He's basically free in dynasty leagues. He was traded for a late 3rd in 1 of my leagues, which turned into Miles Boykin. I'd rather take my chances with McCoy.
In redraft, he is very undervalued as well. Round 12 is crazy for a guy who could see 12-15 touches a game, in a decent offense. guys like Ito Smith and Carlos Hyde, who are worse players, who need injuries ahead of them to be relevant, are going in the same area.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I dont understand why every FBG email update says McCoy could still be cut. hasnt that time come and gone? I guess a guy can always be cut but I thought the cut off for roster bonuses and such was over with
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Which is likely why they were giving Gore and Singletary so many looks with the #1s in OTAs. If they see enough out of those guys, I could definitely see McCoy being a late cut.Bazinga! said:
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
As a Singletary owner, I dream of the Bills trading McCoy to the Chiefs or somebody for a 6th rounder.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
This is the only thing that makes him draftable to me. Seeing where else he could end up. That Buffalo backfield is just too crowded.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
The fact that he could be cut should tell you that there is no trade interest - not last year, not this year.Tool said:
bostonfred
Footballguy
So is ajayi at a much lower price. He hurt his ACL in October so of course he couldn't pass a physical in the spring, but if an NFL team could choose between signing an injured ajayi or trading for an old McCoy, i could easily see them going that route
TripItUp
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I doubt he gets cut. He's either on the Bills roster or is traded. Just a gut feeling.
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McCoy won't get traded or cut. What are they going to get for him? The Bills aren't in cap trouble. They have the money to pay him. Injuries will happen. It's pretty much guaranteed. It's much better to have the RB depth if needed. I'd be amazed to see Shady in another uniform this year.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
That carries a lot less weight now since they can roll all unused money forward. Cutting him creates future extra dollars that can be spent on someone else.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
They’d save 6.425 in cap space this year with only $2.625 in a hit. Doesn’t matter the time of year.
They brought in his good friend Frank Gore and drafted a kid and signed Yeldon.
If the Bills were to trade Mccoy it would likely be at the trade deadline if the Bills are out of it and they want to give Mccoy a chance to help a playoff team.
If a big time starter goes down in August, maybe we’d see a chance he gets traded in early September but I doubt it.
I think Mccoy and Gore both coach up the kid Singletary and then play it by year at the deadline. What’s weird is the Yeldon signing. I’m curious if they’ll keep all four.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
I'm having trouble figuring out why the Bills haven't cut LeSean McCoy. He is due $6.4 million. He clearly isn't worth that amount.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
If they don't plan on using that cap space there is no reason to get rid of him sooner than later because there can always be a major injury(especially to a RB). If Singletary went down I'm sure they would just keep him and pay him. And potential injuries to other players around the league would make McCoy a potentially valuable trade commodity before cut downs. Why release him if you can get a draft pick for him? IMO Houston should be willing to give up a pick right now, but just imagine if Miller even had a minor injury going into the season. I assume the DAL situation sorts itself out but McCoy wouldn't be a bad stop-gap there either. One thing about a veteran RB like McCoy is he can probably step into a new offense and be effective almost immediately even before he has a complete grasp of the new offense. There are a lot of teams around the league that would be thin at RB if they lost ONE guy even if they are in a RBBC right now. RB is a position that doesn't get paid because they are easily replaced, but that's when you have an offseason to replace them. They aren't so easy to replace if you have a few days before the season starts. If I were the chargers I'd much rather give up a conditional day 3 draft pick to overpay McCoy $6.4M for a year rather than commit ~$14M to Gordon for several years.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
This. He’s still loved in that locker room. They brought in his buddy Gore for motivation. It’s one year left and he and Gore can mentor Singletary. If the Bills are out of it at the trade deadline, maybe they send him to a playoff team for a conditional late round pick or something as a favor but they have been pretty upfront with having a plan with him on the roster.
