More out of necessity than faith. But he's in there. Playing against the guy who just traded him to me in dynasty and spent the last few weeks gloating about it. It tastes so sweet.Hope people started him
Yeah..there are two that I saw that he should have had but held on to the one where he got drilled in the backHes back to dropping passes
Trust me, the Chiefs are very specifically bad at giving up huge games to opposing WRs. Even the ghost of Terrelle Pryor (Cooper-level bad this year) was catching bombs on them.I was scared to death to start him.
Now I'm going to be scared to death to sit him.
If his preceding games weren't so bad, he might bring in a nice trade haul. I'm with you man, going to be hard to sit now. I wouldn't have played him tonight if Will Fuller wasn't on bye.I was scared to death to start him.
Now I'm going to be scared to death to sit him.
And I have both guys to deliberate on starting each week!Looking like Will Fuller out there
I also apologize for considering Cooper as a throw in for a trade!Amari, I apologize for all the bad things I said.
I think the KC defense is not as good as everyone thought. That said, I also believe Cooper has underachieved greatly. This will probably be his best game of the season. I expect a roller coaster due to Crabtree's presence. Unfortunately I don't think you can move Cooper for something consistent because those last 3 games were so awful.So is KC DBs this bad or is Amari back? Even with drops, he looked like the best player on the field today.
Cooper made some big plays in this game. He also had some poor ones.So is KC DBs this bad or is Amari back? Even with drops, he looked like the best player on the field today.
This.Cooper made some big plays in this game. He also had some poor ones.
I think he is back though. This game should help his confidence a lot moving forward.
Amen on the targets. The good thing is they won forcing it to him. Should reinforce that behavior in QB. Plus he produced in crunch time with game on the line and defense keying on him. All very encouraging.This.
It's pretty hard not to produce when you get 19 targets ffs.
Could... not... be... happier...to... be... wrong.Chaka said:No one hopes that Cooper turns it around more than I do. But six games, 39 targets, 18 catches, 146 yards (8.1 YPC) and 1 TD. That is a big body of work for this season already.
Personally I am not sure Del Rio is the guy to turn this team around (admittedly I have never been a big fan of him as a coach) and think it is possible they simply stay the same. Maybe eke out six wins? I want to believe but my eyes suggest belief may not be enough.
I traded Carr for Wentz and benched Cooper right before the game. I hope Wentz does well also. I think that sometimes I get to cute, and it burns me. I did have Hill last night, but still feel stupid this morning.Even with last nights performance I can’t convince myself to put him in the lineup. I’ve been burned too many times and need to see more consistency.
I’m more upset that I sat Alex and Carr so for the 1st time I have Wentz as my starting QB this week. Because of the matchup and the way KC played last week I benched Alex 30 minuets before the game and pondered if I should pulled the trigger. I hope Wentz has a good game come Monday night. Anyway it’s good to see Coop have a great game and I’m hoping someone shoots me a good offer as I still believe he’s been overrated by the community.
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I've thought he was hurt more than people realize as well but he actually looked good last week but Carr was more limited last week and he had a few big plays called back but he looked back to me last week.Finally... He’s back!!!
PS- I think he’s been hurt worse than people realize. No proof on this but just watching him. Until last night.
I think he has above average physical skills, with enough top end speed and physicality to not be able to either play him soft of try to jam him regularly, and he is a tremendous route runner and compares to the best in that dept. However he absolutely has below average hands and his hand eye seems to be way off (a very bad combo for a WR). Both of those can be improved upon but I would have hoped that improvement would have come this year and not the regression we have seen. He'll never be a Julio or AJ type (how may of those guys are there?) but he has the skills to be a #1 WR in the NFL.Same guy and they did a much better job of getting him the football. I still see a tremendous athlete with average-ish WR skills. Hands, ball awareness, hand/eye - he'll never be elite ala AJG or Julio. But he's fast and he's mobile so once you can get the ball into his hands he's dangerous. I love how they used him. Leveraged his strengths, using him on the move and in space. He got lucky on the first TD, that was well underthrown and the DB had good position. DB trips and Cooper's got a gift 6 points - thank God he didn't drop that ball or he might have just kept running up the tunnel but unlike Bo maybe never come out. That was designed for him and Carr never looked elsewhere - Seth Roberts was WIIIIIIIDE open on the other side. No one within 5 yards of him.
I'll never pay his market price but he's got WR2/low WR1 potential based on his usage.
Put on 10 pounds this off-season, needed to get stronger. Two biggest issues to his game is the drops and getting off press coverage. Figure he muscled up to help get off press coverage and maybe take on bigger role in red zone, which if you recall in week one they tried hard with him.Was he this big when he entered the league?
He looks like he might have David Boston syndrome where he's too bulked up to play WR.
Those guys are physical marvels. Used to be this stat a few years ago and I can't recall it exactly and did not check it for accuracy but went along the lines of only 4 WR's at the combine measured at least 6'3", ran 4.5 or under 40 and had a 10 foot broad jump and it was these two, Calvin and the bust Stephen Hill. So no Cooper is not in that class.he'll never be elite ala AJG or Julio.
I'll defer to others on his route-running, it's not something I find easy to evaluate since I don't have any all-22 access. I don't agree catching and hand-eye can be improved - you either have it or you don't and those two are inextricably linked. I think hand-eye can be exercised and kept sharp with drills, but I don't see it improving. I'm willing to live with it given the rest of his potential, it's just a matter of expectations. I know he'll miss making some plays, but I know when he does catch it he can do great things with it. If they are feeding him and he's catching "most" of them I'll just adjust my expectation of what "most" means for Cooper. Maybe 17/20 vs. 19/20 for others. Plenty of production still available given his athletic skills.I think he has above average physical skills, with enough top end speed and physicality to not be able to either play him soft of try to jam him regularly, and he is a tremendous route runner and compares to the best in that dept. However he absolutely has below average hands and his hand eye seems to be way off (a very bad combo for a WR). Both of those can be improved upon but I would have hoped that improvement would have come this year and not the regression we have seen. He'll never be a Julio or AJ type (how may of those guys are there?) but he has the skills to be a #1 WR in the NFL.
I wasn't referring to their physical presence as much as I was their ball skills. Those guys have ridiculous hand/eye and track the ball in the air like legends. You never see them jump too soon or get alligator hands being late on the grab and they get their feet in bounds and drag toes like no one else. I love watching AJG slow down, screen off the DB, then at the last second accelerate into the ball, make the catch going away, and score with the guy 5 yards behind him. That's partly about 4.3 speed, yes, but it's a lot more about spatial awareness and tracking the flight of the ball. Cooper has been called by some as an elite WR but you can't get that moniker without being able to hang with the big boys on ball skills.Those guys are physical marvels. Used to be this stat a few years ago and I can't recall it exactly and did not check it for accuracy but went along the lines of only 4 WR's at the combine measured at least 6'3", ran 4.5 or under 40 and had a 10 foot broad jump and it was these two, Calvin and the bust Stephen Hill. So no Cooper is not in that class.
But I'll never say he can't be elite because if he can ever get his drops under control I think he can be like AB. Remember when people said AB could not be elite because he was not much of a red zone factor and then he slumped a bit in year three and people thought of him as a WR3 type after his third season
A few days ago and we'd have considered that an upgrade.4 for 30 yds next week