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It's not about a 2 yard carry - it's about like 16 of them. Same way it wouldn't be about 1-2 long runs (if that was all he had).
It's funny cause on the last show, Bloom was almost covering for him like he was his mother.
That's exactly my question too. CJ was producing five yards a clip and by all accounts was liked by the staff. Then he's randomly deactivated, and then he doesn't touch the ball. I'm floored.Very frustrating. Not sure what happend that took CJ from looking like the next in line, getting some touches, to deactivated last week, to not getting any touches this week. Something must have happened. Well at least I can free up another roster spot.
I'm going with the notion that the Broncos don't think he is as good as Hillman, Thompson.That's exactly my question too. CJ was producing five yards a clip and by all accounts was liked by the staff. Then he's randomly deactivated, and then he doesn't touch the ball. I'm floored.Very frustrating. Not sure what happend that took CJ from looking like the next in line, getting some touches, to deactivated last week, to not getting any touches this week. Something must have happened. Well at least I can free up another roster spot.
Guess it's just time to move on, but I really don't understand what happened with CJ.
He already fumbled once yesterday and was lucky the Broncos recovered.....It seems he's a fumble waiting to happen...
So? They kept giving him the ball afterwards. If you pick up Thompson or Anderson you are hoping for a fumble at a critical moment or an injury, which isn't a great talent evaluation strategy.
Yesterday you were criticizing Hillman because only 30% of his carries went for more than 4 yards. But Thompson's rate is even worse (25%).
Analysis:
If Hillman continues at this clip, it would be absurd for the coaches to put Ball back in. Hillman put up 100 yards on a pretty good run defense. Ball has had plenty of chances and has thoroughly stunk it up.
One more cuz this is so indicativie of the lack of objectivity (no offense to Summer directly)Joe Summer said:
In all my leagues Anderson was rostered prior to last week and Hillman was the hot waiver add as well. That's how the RB tier looked in Denver up until last week so it's not just the influence of FBGs/experts. Sadly I own both Ball and Anderson and was massively outbid for Hillman. I'd rather just cut bait on the whole situation and trade Ball to the new Hillman owner at this rate.PatsWillWin said:
Yes you can slice the stats however you want which is why you changed your analysis to suit your conclusion, after your first analysis broke down.
Yes he does have a propensity to fumble, and he fumbled against the Jets on the way to 27 touches. The latter number speaks volumes about how Denver views their RB situation.
Yup.
I'm talking about the fact that if he isn't putting up RB1 or RB2 (or RB3, or RB4) numbers then he is not "far more then a mere backup."
This started by talking about being an "NFL starter" or backup.
That's not analysis. Those numbers are literally useless without knowing the type of play called, the down and distance, and how the blocking was. Your entire "argument" is based on the presumption that every running play is designed to go for 4 ypc, and a RB can be judged based on how many yards he got on a play relative to that number. It's simply not true.The Dude said:
Yesterday you considered 3 and under to be a bad carry for Hillman. Now for Thompson you change the criteria to under 3 yards.
picking him up now
I thought Thompson looked like a better runner than Hillman, but I don't think that really matters in the pecking order. The depth chart was set based on hundreds of practice reps. A handful of live-game carries where he was slightly better aren't going to make the slightest difference.I thought Thompson looked the best, and I have Hillman on my team.
YMMV
In fairness, Anderson was always behind Hillman. In week 4 of the preseason Hillman got the game off and Anderson had to play, the surest sign that the coaches had Hillman running ahead. Hillman wound up in the hospital after the game, and the rumors (which I find credible, based on the evidence) were that Hillman was doing something he shouldn't have been doing and wound up in the coaches' doghouse. Anderson was ahead of Hillman for a couple of weeks, Hillman worked his way out of the doghouse, and then he went back to the #2 role.That's exactly my question too. CJ was producing five yards a clip and by all accounts was liked by the staff. Then he's randomly deactivated, and then he doesn't touch the ball. I'm floored.Very frustrating. Not sure what happend that took CJ from looking like the next in line, getting some touches, to deactivated last week, to not getting any touches this week. Something must have happened. Well at least I can free up another roster spot.
Guess it's just time to move on, but I really don't understand what happened with CJ.
This is the post everyone should have paid attention to. Eminence moves markets....
Good luck, coming off that 0 carries for 0 yards performance he's gonna be a very hot add this week.
Funny because most people (myself included) were saying the same thing about Moreno last year.
Should be really easy to pickup, Anderson will be between Amendola and Dereck Anderson, but if you package all three, your "All Bench" roster will be complete....tunamelt warrior said:
Yep. I owned Anderson as the Ball handcuff in a few leagues. I actually owned Hillman originally and then made the switch a couple weeks back after Cecil/Bloom kept reiterating that it would be Anderson's job if Ball ever went down. Against my better judgement, I considered Cecil/Bloom an authority on the matter and went with their advice. Now I'm stuck with waiver wire trash rather than a weekly RB2.
And there's your problem.
You gotta consider the body of work though. I missed out on Hillman for Anderson too, but FBG's also alerted me to Crowell, Oliver, and Davante Adams before anyone else could snatch them up. Missing every once and a while is bound to happen, no matter how good the "experts".
I get the most value by participating in the Shark Pool. It's a situation where crowd-sourcing is far more valuable then the opinion of an individual who cannot legitimately demonstrate his/her expertise consistently over-time.
I read about those guys in the Shark Pool, long before they appeared on the casual fantasy radar
