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I'm a little surprised there's been no discussion on this board - maybe I'm just terrible at the search function.

The top rugby player in the world retired from rugby at age 26 to chase his dream of being an NFL running back. He's 6'2", 220 lbs, and blazing fast - and reportedly has drawn interest from the Lions and other teams since his announcement about a month ago.

His plan is to spend the next year getting into football shape. I, for one, am intrigued for dynasty purposes.

 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
This reads like a storyline you'd get in a Madden '15 draft class.
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Regardless, you can't deny that he's an insanely gifted athlete with skills that will translate to the NFL. And when he's signed to a team - and he will be signed somewhere, if only as a "what the hell" camp body - he'll be a free agent in every dynasty league that no one really knows much about.

With the right circumstance, he could end up being a very valuable commodity who can be picked up for nothing.

 
Area51Inhabitant said:
Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
I could see him maybe being a special teams contributor next year. Anything more would be the all time of longshots.
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Have you ever watched him play rugby?
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No. What does that have to do with the fact that he would be learning an entirely new sport from scratch? Did you watch Michael Jordan try to play baseball?
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You think rugby is as dissimilar from football as baseball is from basketball?

 
Area51Inhabitant said:
Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
I could see him maybe being a special teams contributor next year. Anything more would be the all time of longshots.
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Have you ever watched him play rugby?
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No. What does that have to do with the fact that he would be learning an entirely new sport from scratch? Did you watch Michael Jordan try to play baseball?
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This would be more like MJ attempting to play volleyball instead. There are obvious parallels between rugby and the running back position.

 
Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
I could see him maybe being a special teams contributor next year. Anything more would be the all time of longshots.
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Have you ever watched him play rugby?
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No. What does that have to do with the fact that he would be learning an entirely new sport from scratch? Did you watch Michael Jordan try to play baseball?
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You think rugby is as dissimilar from football as baseball is from basketball?
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No that's not what I said. I said he's a longshot trying to make it in a sport he's never played even a little bit. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

 
SameSongNDance said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
I could see him maybe being a special teams contributor next year. Anything more would be the all time of longshots.
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Have you ever watched him play rugby?
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No. What does that have to do with the fact that he would be learning an entirely new sport from scratch? Did you watch Michael Jordan try to play baseball?
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This would be more like MJ attempting to play volleyball instead. There are obvious parallels between rugby and the running back position.
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I'd even go so far as to say it would be like John McEnroe attempting to play professional squash.

Which would be awesome.

 
The parallels I see between Rugby and Football is like someone playing tackle football in shorts in a semi pro situation trying to go from that straight to the NFL. No HS experience. No college experience. He might be a phenomenal athlete which is why I thought he might be a useful special teamer but hoping for anything more is going to be quite hard to imagine.

 
Hayne is a terrific talent and as an Aussie, I hope he succeeds, but he's got a huge task ahead of him. Apparently he will focus on special teams at first, trying to make it as a kick/punt returner and I think that's a good idea. Shows he is realistic about things and doesn't think he's just going to come in and be a star RB or something. It would be interesting if he got a shot at RB at some point though - he's strong, elusive and fast.

 
May have worked in the 70s or 80s even but this is 2014. Smashmouth football is long gone. Unless he easily picks up pass blocking, he is just another guy. If he learns that, then its a different story.

 
Good for him if he can simply make a practice squad. Remarkable feat in itself.

Don't like his odds of making it as an NFL RB at that age. At least he's smart enough to concentrate at special teams first. Any other position, I'd at least give him a fighting chance.

 
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I was just checking on status of him, and it looks like he just had a workout for a few teams. Lions publicly discussing talks... http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/parramatta-eels/jarryd-hayne-showcases-his-speed-in-secret-workout-20150221-13l35i.html

Hayne's management is hopeful of striking a deal with an NFL franchise, possibly as soon as this week. Several teams have expressed interest, with Detroit, San Francisco and Seattle among the favourites. Lions general manager Martin Mayhew confirmed he was "in dialogue" about Hayne's future during the week.
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Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
Henry Ford said:
Area51Inhabitant said:
I could see him maybe being a special teams contributor next year. Anything more would be the all time of longshots.
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Have you ever watched him play rugby?
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No. What does that have to do with the fact that he would be learning an entirely new sport from scratch? Did you watch Michael Jordan try to play baseball?
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You think rugby is as dissimilar from football as baseball is from basketball?
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It might as well be. Football is an incredibly technical game and the fact is, this guy has never played it. I live in Australia and hardcore rugby fans here think he's being foolish. No question he's an excellent athlete, but to call him "raw" would be an insult to the word "raw."

I think his upside is some kind of special teams role, anything beyond that is the longest of longshots.

 
Rotoworld:

Australian rugby star Jarryd Hayne plans to pursue a career in the NFL.

Hayne just turned 27 and stands a rocked-up 6-foot-2 and 220 pounds. He's drawn interest from the Lions, Seahawks, and 49ers and plans to sign with a team by next week. It's unclear what position he'd play in the NFL, but the expectation is he'll compete as a return man and special teamer. Hayne was the National Rugby League's player of the year in 2009 and 2014. There's an 11-minute highlight clip at the link below that is well worth watching.

Related: Lions, Seahawks, 49ers

Source: Sacramento Bee
Feb 25 - 11:22 AM
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Rugby League star Jarryd Hayne still exploring options, Seahawks apparently still in the mix

Originally published February 27, 2015 at 9:00 am

Updated February 27, 2015 at 9:03 am

Australian Rugby League star Jarryd Hayne has yet to sign with an NFL team and is said to still be exploring all options, apparently including Seattle.

It had been expected that Jarryd Hayne, the Australian Rugby League star who is pursuing a career in the NFL, would have signed a contract already — there were reports earlier in the week that he was headed to Detroit.

But Hayne has yet to sign and a person close to the process said today that Hayne “is still exploring all options at this point” with no specific timeline. Some Twitter rumors have hinted that Hayne will make a decision early next week.

He visited Detroit, San Francisco and Seattle and those teams are regarded as the favorites for the 27-year-old Hayne, who projects as a running back and returner (here’s some of what Seattle coach Pete Carroll said about Hayne last October).

The National Football Post earlier this week published some video of Hayne’s Pro Day as well as reporting that he had a 4.53 40, which would have placed him sixth among running backs at the Combine.

It’s possible, given the somewhat lackluster performance of running backs at the Combine, that Hayne is assessing the post-Combine landscape to see if things have changed. Or maybe a deal is struck with a team and it’s simply not ready yet to be announced.

But indications at the moment point to this lasting at least into next week.
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cstu said:
Football is an incredibly technical game
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RB is by far the easiest position to play.
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Agreed. Yet that changes nothing. Sure, he has a better chance of making the NFL as a RB than a CB. His chances are still very poor.

If he catches on a roster, he'll be a gunner or something. Maybe a returner, but even that I doubt.

We'll see. But he's several huge steps behind even the worst UDFA who gets a camp invite this year with respect to experience and age and just knowledge and technique. Nice story, but I doubt it.

 
Faust said:
Can Jarryd Hayne transition from rugby star to NFL rookie?
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IMO blocking will be the most difficult challenge for him. From the videos I've seen he has the speed, agility, and instincts to be an NFL RB. Picking up things like which hole to hit isn't that difficult if he's dedicated to learning the playbook. However, understanding protections in a pass heavy league is the hardest thing for any RB and even RB's who've played their whole lives have trouble.

 
Picked him up in a 60 man league but otherwise it's an extreme long shot. As a Niner fan I hope he can contribute, but the management sucks terribly and has been making awful decisions. From the outside looking in, it would appear that Jed York knows nothing about football.

 
I don't know how much of a chance he has but according to Aussie friends of mine the guy will do everything he can to make it and he has plenty of athleticism and strength, it will be whether or not he picks up the game, a fun twist for the offseason if nothing else. Shame they can't make the Niners do Hard Knocks, they would be fascinating this year. Tomsula is awful with the media, Baalke is getting hounded for running Harbaugh out of town, Lawrence Okoye, Jarryd Hayne, the development (or not) of Kaep, would be great!

 
His learning curve is going to be steep at RB. There are huge holes in his game compared to finding small gaps amongst 320lb men. He could have some success as a returner but big time impact at RB, not seeing it. Take that and couple it with his age as soon as he loses a step it's already game over.

Edit to add: I thought Carlin Isles had a shot because he was young and had blazing speed but he didn't make it very far with the Lions.

 
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Bojang0301 said:
His learning curve is going to be steep at RB. There are huge holes in his game compared to finding small gaps amongst 320lb men. He could have some success as a returner but big time impact at RB, not seeing it. Take that and couple it with his age as soon as he loses a step it's already game over.

Edit to add: I thought Carlin Isles had a shot because he was young and had blazing speed but he didn't make it very far with the Lions.
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Hayne said that 49ers team management had indicated running back was his likely position.

"I just have to get over there and get into it ... a running back is what they see me as," he said.
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
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The following is a somewhat off topic rant...Every one of these stupid people who thinks and says "They should make football players take off their helmets and that will reduces concussions" should watch this video and a full game of each sport.

The tackling in this video looks worse then high school kids. And its not because they are poor tacklers it's because it's a different game. They pitch the ball and the "play" doesn't stop after they get tacked. There is rarely more then two defenders converging on the ball carrier and even two is fairly uncommon.

Hayne looks like a beast because he is but also because rarely do players run like that. It's better to either pitch or to get to the ground in a proper position for what happens after the tackle is made.

A couple other things are, in a scrum (vs NFL line of scrimmage engagement) all the players are engaged/protected. It looks like they are mashing their heads but they aren't. The other thing is that there isn't any forward passes. So, the offensive players are never in the center of the defense. Plus, most of the time rugby players know when and where contact is coming from. And, again, they really aren't trying to fall forward like a RB.

This has nothing to do with how I feel about concussions or anything related to them. It's just that the "take the helmets off like rugby" drives me insane.

Sorry for the rant. In the wrong thread, no less.

 
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Actually Hayne is a rugby league player, not rugby union, so the play does stop when he's tackled. Blindside hits and shoulder charges like you see in football regularly were outlawed after this hit three years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdtb-_3MTE

I think the lack of shoulder charges has more to do with the relatively low number of concussions, however the NRL are facing their own issues, with a familiar sounding policy having come in this season

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/leading-neurosurgeon-happy-to-take-lead-on-nrl-concussion-rulings-20150411-1mihwf.html

 
Jarryd Hayne is no stranger to roughing it – he grew up in housing commission in Campbelltown and now he's living the simple life in every sense as he chases his NFL dream.

Hayne walked away from around $9 million in contract earnings and has set up base in Santa Clara, which is about an hour's drive from San Francisco.

It's not considered a flashy area and he is sharing an apartment with another NFL hopeful. The place he is living in is about 30square metres – it has no kitchen and to say the house is basic is about right. Hayne has to eat out or eat at the 49ers facility. He is driving around in a low-level hire car and has only been into the city of San Francisco once.

"Jarryd doesn't need anything fancy in his life," his mum Jodie said. "That's not what he is about. He had to share a bed with me until he was nine – I slept closer to the door just in case anyone tried to break in. I used to nanny at places and Jarryd would have to come with me.

"He always had a footy or a bat and ball to play with and he always ate well, but he never had the luxuries. But it didn't bother him, he was happy just playing sport.

"If he is living a basic life over there, it wouldn't worry him for a minute. That's not what he values. Money isn't what drives him. He is over there because it's his dream and he is happy.

"The good thing for Jarryd is that he has some family support over there. The Fijian side of his family is over there and they are taking him to church on Saturday. Jarryd is still keeping in touch with stuff back home. He was straight on the phone when he heard about the storms to check on his mum."

Hayne is forming a good friendship with 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

They've had a couple of nights out but his social life has otherwise been very limited.

His days are the same – train, eat, study the play book and play on his Xbox. And he couldn't be happier.

The problem Hayne is facing is that as much as he wants to learn in practice he can't get the personal coaching that he needs. If he hires a specialist coach they then would get access to the plays the 49ers are using, and he is unable to go down that path.

Hayne is not having any issues with the physical aspect of the training. He knows the real issue is learning the game from scratch.

Those who have spent time with Hayne say they have never seen him more relaxed, focused or determined. He is engaging to be around and the time away from the NRL has given him a broader outlook on life.
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I'd love to see him make the team, but I think he's probably still a long shot. When it came to the returner stuff for the 49ers, I mentioned him in the team writeup, but I don't feel confident enough yet he'll make the roster to give him any returns in my first draft of returner projections. I'd like to see how he looks with pads on as a returner when camp starts, and get to hear more about how he's picking up the RB stuff he'll need to learn.

 
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