jeaton6
Footballguy
Is this guy purposely sabotaging his team or does he not understand player/pick values?
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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
He's a perennial playoff contender and when I talk to him he knows his stuff very well. Usually doesn't consult others about trades, and is very independent on market valuation so I guess it makes some sense as to why the values are off.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Psychotic break??
jeaton6
Footballguy
Denver724
Footballguy
Agreed. Especially if this years draft isn't as deep. Not completley sold on Brown, but he could end up being close to what TY is in Indy. Still a ways to go, but the potential is there.
Denver724
Footballguy
I would go with Dez, but for a rebuilding team its not a terrible deal. Not sure why the team giving up Dez had to throw in a pick. It's too bad the picks this year were not a little better than 1.07 and 1.08.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
That looks fair, I take Dez if I'm competing, I take side B if I'm rebuilding or if I have no wr depth. If Maclin leaves, Matthews value goes way up. If HOU can find a QB upgrade, Hopkins value increases.
Zyphros
Footballguy
10 team 2QB 3WR 2RB 2TE 2Flex
I traded: Julio Jones
Got: 1.04, 2016 1st (very likely top5 at worst), 2016 2nd (likely late? who knows), 2017 1st
I was a contender and this will likely knock me out of the playoffs unless I use these pieces for something else. Still set with my core WR's with Antonio Brown and Dez, although I'm lacking in the depth department with Charles Johnson, Martavis Bryant, James Jones, and Welker.
I have 2 1sts this year and 3 in 2016 now so lots of fire power to make some moves.
I traded: Julio Jones
Got: 1.04, 2016 1st (very likely top5 at worst), 2016 2nd (likely late? who knows), 2017 1st
I was a contender and this will likely knock me out of the playoffs unless I use these pieces for something else. Still set with my core WR's with Antonio Brown and Dez, although I'm lacking in the depth department with Charles Johnson, Martavis Bryant, James Jones, and Welker.
I have 2 1sts this year and 3 in 2016 now so lots of fire power to make some moves.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think I'd rather have kept Julio, but this could certainly work out if a couple of those picks hit. I think we need to really try and figure out if all of the amazing rookie WR production from this year is an aberration or a new trend. If it's the former, that could make this deal trouble as I think it has warped people's impression of the value of 1st round draft picks. We don't have to go back but a couple of years to find drafts where the majority of the 1st round was guys that didn't even end up being fantasy starters, much less studs.
If we're looking at a new trend where nine 1st rounders end up being studs every year instead of two or three, it could be a big hit.
renesauz
IBL Representative
I like the Mathews/Hopkins side of this, but if a team already had some depth and lacked top-tier players, I could easily see going the other way.
jeaton6
Footballguy
In my 8 team dispersal (12 team league) Brown went in 8th, Johnson in 12th so this doesn't surprise me.
Andre Johnson has seen better days, but I am surprised his value has fallen this far (unless I am seriously underestimation John Brown, who I think is a dart throw PPR flex play at this point in his career).
For trade advice please take this to the AC forum. This thread is supposed to be for completed trades only.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Get over yourself. Nothing wrong with trying to valuate players/picks in this thread, or any other trade thread.
I can't say the 1.02, I was looking to trade for the 1.02 (12 team league), guy wouldn't move the 1.02 and 2.03 for the 1.08 and 1.09. Ended up moving the 1.08 and 1.09 for the 1.04 and 2.04.
Denver724
Footballguy
I don't think he said anything wrong. If someone wants to answer (like you did) feel free. I think he was just trying to direct the person asking the question to the proper forum (to get more feedback). Your first sentence wasn't really necessary.
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Run It Up
Footballguy
His second sentence justified my first.
It happens every trade thread, someone asks a valuation question and is immediately told that isn't what this thread is about.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
What I don't understand about a thread like this is who cares once the trade has happened? I get it that you're trying to gauge valuation, but you're doing so pre AND post trade. Why not just mesh both in here and have a tool for all dynasty trades. IMO it's no different than posting a top 12 list. All that is is a pre-draft valuation tool. $0.02
No, it doesn't happen for every trade here, puleeze. That discussion is expected and wanted. But he did not have a completed trade, he was asking advice for his team (as he is new to dynasty) and asking for help in advance does not belong in this thread (and hasn't in any of the similar threads started over the last five years).
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
The point is to get player values. You get that from seeing completed trades, not trades that some people are thinking about offering, which rarely actually happen because they're usually valuing things slanted towards their own players.
lardonastick
Footballguy
Non PPR, Start 1-2-3-1-1flex
Ryan Mathews
2.11
for
2.04
Ryan Mathews
2.11
for
2.04
Denver724
Footballguy
I'm no Matthews fan by any means, but I think I would take Matthews and 2.11 in that deal.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'd be looking for another first.pizzatyme said:
Zyphros
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
pizzatyme
Footballguy
You're kidding yourself if you think many of these trades in here aren't exactly the same thing.
Denver724
Footballguy
Agreed. Nobody would take that deal. To get 1.02 you have to probably offer 2 1sts and a 2nd (depending on where the 1sts are). That may not even be enough.
JackReacher
Footballguy
I don't see Mathews ever being a workhorse back; I will take the 2.4
JackReacher
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
It's painfully obvious when you post a "trade" that you're looking for opinions on if you should do it or not. I'm not going to cause problems, and I'm sure there are people who will answer your questions but I won't be one of them. Post completed trades or go to the AC.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Right. There is a reason this is for completed trades only. It would be a mess if it wasnt.FreeBaGeL said:
Or if you want to gauge value just post a fake trade and you will get feedback. Wouldnt be the first time, and wont be the last.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
This guy sounds like he knows less about FF than my wife, and my wife doesn't know the shape of a football.
This isn't the Dear Abby advice column in your local newspaper.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Denver724
Footballguy
And Kelce? Stealing.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I can see why also.pizzatyme said:
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