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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (5 Viewers)

GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
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Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
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I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
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No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
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It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
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35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.

 
Mighty Mice said:
duaneok66 said:
Hey Mice, what do you not like about Gase?
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Prefer we go with a defensive minded coach. Nothing against Gase per se, but not overly impressed with what he's done in Chicago this year. Has Cutler been that good? And I do wonder how much of his Denver success rests with personnel like Manning, Thomas, Sanders, etc.

Maybe it's me, but every year there is a 'hot offensive guy' and they seem hit and miss. Plus, as mentioned if our O does very well the OC is likely to be plucked.

That said those in the know seem to rave about his smarts and his youth doesn't scare me off.
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I want someone who has experience building a team. Who is a players coach, ala Harbaugh. I think everyone is sleeping on Brian Shaw

Can someone tell me whats wrong with David Shaw other than no NFL experience and a college coach like Chipper?

 
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Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
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Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
Click to expand...
I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
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No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
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It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
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35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.
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It is (well, 1 off ...)

http://eaglesrewind.com/2015/12/09/demarco-murray-is-not-a-bad-scheme-fit-he-is-just-playing-badly/

 
JAA said:
Mighty Mice said:
duaneok66 said:
Hey Mice, what do you not like about Gase?
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Prefer we go with a defensive minded coach. Nothing against Gase per se, but not overly impressed with what he's done in Chicago this year. Has Cutler been that good? And I do wonder how much of his Denver success rests with personnel like Manning, Thomas, Sanders, etc.Maybe it's me, but every year there is a 'hot offensive guy' and they seem hit and miss. Plus, as mentioned if our O does very well the OC is likely to be plucked.

That said those in the know seem to rave about his smarts and his youth doesn't scare me off.
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I want someone who has experience building a team. Who is a players coach, ala Harbaugh. I think everyone is sleeping on Brian ShawCan someone tell me whats wrong with Brian Shaw other than no NFL experience and a college coach like Chipper?
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Bro, it's David Shaw.

 
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
Click to expand...
Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
Click to expand...
I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
Click to expand...
No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
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It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
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35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.
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35%

I posted the article a few weeks back on % plays shotgun vs under center. His ypc was as good if not better w cowgirls.

I'm not searching this dumpster fire thread for it....will take a week.

 
JAA said:
Mighty Mice said:
duaneok66 said:
Hey Mice, what do you not like about Gase?
Click to expand...
Prefer we go with a defensive minded coach. Nothing against Gase per se, but not overly impressed with what he's done in Chicago this year. Has Cutler been that good? And I do wonder how much of his Denver success rests with personnel like Manning, Thomas, Sanders, etc.

Maybe it's me, but every year there is a 'hot offensive guy' and they seem hit and miss. Plus, as mentioned if our O does very well the OC is likely to be plucked.

That said those in the know seem to rave about his smarts and his youth doesn't scare me off.
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I want someone who has experience building a team. Who is a players coach, ala Harbaugh. I think everyone is sleeping on Brian Shaw

Can someone tell me whats wrong with Brian Shaw other than no NFL experience and a college coach like Chipper?
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Feel like that's plenty to make it not happen.

 
David Shaw does have nfl experience (including with the Eagles).

It seems like he would be reasonable, though I would assume that he would go for Indy first, if that opens up.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
JAA said:
Mighty Mice said:
duaneok66 said:
Hey Mice, what do you not like about Gase?
Click to expand...
Prefer we go with a defensive minded coach. Nothing against Gase per se, but not overly impressed with what he's done in Chicago this year. Has Cutler been that good? And I do wonder how much of his Denver success rests with personnel like Manning, Thomas, Sanders, etc.Maybe it's me, but every year there is a 'hot offensive guy' and they seem hit and miss. Plus, as mentioned if our O does very well the OC is likely to be plucked.

That said those in the know seem to rave about his smarts and his youth doesn't scare me off.
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I want someone who has experience building a team. Who is a players coach, ala Harbaugh. I think everyone is sleeping on Brian ShawCan someone tell me whats wrong with Brian Shaw other than no NFL experience and a college coach like Chipper?
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Bro, it's David Shaw.
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One little problem.

 
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
Click to expand...
Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
Click to expand...
I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
Click to expand...
No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
Click to expand...
It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
Click to expand...
35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.
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35%I posted the article a few weeks back on % plays shotgun vs under center. His ypc was as good if not better w cowgirls.

I'm not searching this dumpster fire thread for it....will take a week.
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I just posted it (or similar). Not 35%. 36 actual carries.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
Click to expand...
Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
Click to expand...
I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
Click to expand...
No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
Click to expand...
It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
Click to expand...
35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.
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It is (well, 1 off ...)http://eaglesrewind.com/2015/12/09/demarco-murray-is-not-a-bad-scheme-fit-he-is-just-playing-badly/
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My bad, was thinking it was # of carries, ypc is what was equal.Also the perception he only ran up the middle last year.

Dude needs to man up.

 
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GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
Click to expand...
Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
Click to expand...
I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
Click to expand...
No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
Click to expand...
It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
Click to expand...
35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.
Click to expand...
35%

I posted the article a few weeks back on % plays shotgun vs under center. His ypc was as good if not better w cowgirls.

I'm not searching this dumpster fire thread for it....will take a week.
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The article he posted says 9% of his carries were from shotgun last year.

 
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Long Ball Larry said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Have to love the clowns putting articles out there after Murray's run that he showed Chip....maybe they should have such around for the other 11 carries for 15 yards and the fumble. Hope that guy has some professional pride and decides to work this offseason.
Click to expand...
Agreed. But how many of those 11 carries were from under center? I feel like they kind of abandoned that. I would guess only like 4 carries from under center today, one of them being the long run. But I can't remember.
Click to expand...
I only followed online couldn't tell you. I did read even last year the majority of his carries were from shotgun but a decent amount of under center mixed in. Shotgun is part of it but he needs to put on his big boy pants.
Click to expand...
No, the majority of his carries last year were not out of shotgun. He had like 35 out of the gun last year.
Click to expand...
It was a significant amount either way, no excuse for 700 yard season.
Click to expand...
35 isn't significant. That's 2 per game and under 10% of his carries. Not sure if that 35 is accurate though.
Click to expand...
35%I posted the article a few weeks back on % plays shotgun vs under center. His ypc was as good if not better w cowgirls.

I'm not searching this dumpster fire thread for it....will take a week.
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The article he posted says 9% of his carries were from shotgun last year.
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I was thinking ypc which was just as good on shotgun runs w cowgirls.

 
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly

 
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Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
So who's starting the new thread? I think once you get to 10k in a season thread, its time for a new one.
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Did you handle previously?
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I do the odd years. 13 & 15. Someone else can have some fun with the thread titles.
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I'd love to but will lay down if BigBoy would rather
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It's all you my friend.
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haha k cool. Will tomorrow! We both hit over 1000 so if not insein, i'm happy to step in. I will try to be as creative with thread titles and promise not to be too pro-sam :P

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly
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That would be interesting, him and Shurmur working w Bradford might be a good fit. Coming up in the Cowboys system I don't know we would be his 1st choice.

 
Deamon said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
So who's starting the new thread? I think once you get to 10k in a season thread, its time for a new one.
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Did you handle previously?
Click to expand...
I do the odd years. 13 & 15. Someone else can have some fun with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
I'd love to but will lay down if BigBoy would rather
Click to expand...
It's all you my friend.
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haha k cool. Will tomorrow! We both hit over 1000 so if not insein, i'm happy to step in. I will try to be as creative with thread titles and promise not to be too pro-sam :P
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Oh jeez, get ready for you and Bucks arguing over every title change for a year.

 
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
So who's starting the new thread? I think once you get to 10k in a season thread, its time for a new one.
Click to expand...
Did you handle previously?
Click to expand...
I do the odd years. 13 & 15. Someone else can have some fun with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
I'd love to but will lay down if BigBoy would rather
Click to expand...
It's all you my friend.
Click to expand...
haha k cool. Will tomorrow! We both hit over 1000 so if not insein, i'm happy to step in. I will try to be as creative with thread titles and promise not to be too pro-sam :P
Click to expand...
Oh jeez, get ready for you and Bucks arguing over every title change for a year.
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no no, I'll be mostly neutral with the thread titles.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
He had 36 out of 392. Not really a significant percentage.

Not trying to say that Murray was good this year, just saying that it's not like he had a real track record out of the gun.
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Looking at this as the season went on it was really obvious to me why Murray didn't work in the shotgun. The player he reminds me most of style wise is Eddie George. Straight ahead power, runs heavy, falls forwards, can break tackles but no lateral movement ability and not fast enough to turn the corner. If you can get him moving sideways at or behind the LoS, the play's over, he can't get started again. In every running play out of the shotgun bar the Inside Zone and Inside Power (which disappeared this year because our OGs weren't good enough to bother moving them anywhere) he has to start sideways.

I don't think Murray will ever be worth his contract $$ but I think he can be improved over the next year or two by running more from under centre until both his age and the declining dead money in his contract make him cuttable in 2 years, say. I like to think Shurmur texted Kelly after that long TD run of Murrays "See, you stubborn ####".

 
GoBirds said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly
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That would be interesting, him and Shurmur working w Bradford might be a good fit. Coming up in the Cowboys system I don't know we would be his 1st choice.
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Payton would do a good job with the Offense, but I'm worried about how he'd handle the D. What could he try, who could he hire that he hasn't tried with the Saints? That's the mess that might be causing his exit.

 
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
So who's starting the new thread? I think once you get to 10k in a season thread, its time for a new one.
Click to expand...
Did you handle previously?
Click to expand...
I do the odd years. 13 & 15. Someone else can have some fun with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
I'd love to but will lay down if BigBoy would rather
Click to expand...
It's all you my friend.
Click to expand...
haha k cool. Will tomorrow! We both hit over 1000 so if not insein, i'm happy to step in. I will try to be as creative with thread titles and promise not to be too pro-sam :P
Click to expand...
Oh jeez, get ready for you and Bucks arguing over every title change for a year.
Click to expand...
no no, I'll be mostly neutral with the thread titles.
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Have to troll him a couple times with a good Foles reference.

 
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
So who's starting the new thread? I think once you get to 10k in a season thread, its time for a new one.
Click to expand...
Did you handle previously?
Click to expand...
I do the odd years. 13 & 15. Someone else can have some fun with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
I'd love to but will lay down if BigBoy would rather
Click to expand...
It's all you my friend.
Click to expand...
haha k cool. Will tomorrow! We both hit over 1000 so if not insein, i'm happy to step in. I will try to be as creative with thread titles and promise not to be too pro-sam :P
Click to expand...
Oh jeez, get ready for you and Bucks arguing over every title change for a year.
Click to expand...
no no, I'll be mostly neutral with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
Have to troll him a couple times with a good Foles reference.
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is there a way to ban a member from a particular thread? That would be heaven.
 
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
So who's starting the new thread? I think once you get to 10k in a season thread, its time for a new one.
Click to expand...
Did you handle previously?
Click to expand...
I do the odd years. 13 & 15. Someone else can have some fun with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
I'd love to but will lay down if BigBoy would rather
Click to expand...
It's all you my friend.
Click to expand...
haha k cool. Will tomorrow! We both hit over 1000 so if not insein, i'm happy to step in. I will try to be as creative with thread titles and promise not to be too pro-sam :P
Click to expand...
Oh jeez, get ready for you and Bucks arguing over every title change for a year.
Click to expand...
no no, I'll be mostly neutral with the thread titles.
Click to expand...
Have to troll him a couple times with a good Foles reference.
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He's been fairly quiet since Bradford has played well. Though, he said week 17 you can't look at, and also that sam is easily replacable and we are in a lot of trouble if we re-sign him :P Just glad he's proved he's trolling to everyone and not just me. :lol:

 
Ash said:
GoBirds said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly
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That would be interesting, him and Shurmur working w Bradford might be a good fit. Coming up in the Cowboys system I don't know we would be his 1st choice.
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Payton would do a good job with the Offense, but I'm worried about how he'd handle the D. What could he try, who could he hire that he hasn't tried with the Saints? That's the mess that might be causing his exit.
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Ya that would be a worry. Is he really just that awful at hiring D coordinators? Maybe the good ones are scared to be DC's for him since Bountygate

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Any names for potential DC's? What did Petine run? I know he's from around here.
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I was wondering this too (about DC's). Hope someone can come up with a quick list. Not sure if we want a brand new DC with a brand new HC. But getting a retread DC is pretty tough. Because if they sucked and got fired, we don't want them.... but if they've been successful, they probably have no reason to make a lateral move. Broncos secondary coach? Can't see us promoting Undlin. Any old DC's who are now position coaches doing well?

 
Ash said:
GoBirds said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly
Click to expand...
That would be interesting, him and Shurmur working w Bradford might be a good fit. Coming up in the Cowboys system I don't know we would be his 1st choice.
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Payton would do a good job with the Offense, but I'm worried about how he'd handle the D. What could he try, who could he hire that he hasn't tried with the Saints? That's the mess that might be causing his exit.
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Great point, they could go after Billy Davis as a significant upgrade.

 
Deamon said:
Ash said:
GoBirds said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly
Click to expand...
That would be interesting, him and Shurmur working w Bradford might be a good fit. Coming up in the Cowboys system I don't know we would be his 1st choice.
Click to expand...
Payton would do a good job with the Offense, but I'm worried about how he'd handle the D. What could he try, who could he hire that he hasn't tried with the Saints? That's the mess that might be causing his exit.
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Ya that would be a worry. Is he really just that awful at hiring D coordinators? Maybe the good ones are scared to be DC's for him since Bountygate
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It's talent and the Coordinators, but he's had final say on both, so...

At very least he'd have to convince me (if I was Lurie) that he's not an inverted Buddy Ryan, ie a HC who only cares about his pet unit and doesn't pay enough attention to the team as a whole. The position that he didn't know anything about the Bounty stuff supports that view.

 
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GoBirds said:
Ash said:
GoBirds said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Twitter:

Eagles will pursue Sean Payton if he parts ways with Saints Monday, league sources say. My column will be on philly.com shortly
Click to expand...
That would be interesting, him and Shurmur working w Bradford might be a good fit. Coming up in the Cowboys system I don't know we would be his 1st choice.
Click to expand...
Payton would do a good job with the Offense, but I'm worried about how he'd handle the D. What could he try, who could he hire that he hasn't tried with the Saints? That's the mess that might be causing his exit.
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Great point, they could go after Billy Davis as a significant upgrade.
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Found a good article on some potential new DC's around the league. Looks like the top names are Panthers LB coach Al Holcomb, or Rocky Seto from the Seahawks. Nick Rapone is another hot name for what he's done with the DB's in Arizona. Would be nice to promote a DB's coach and finally for once get that position good again in Philly.

 
I'd really prefer to bring in a defensive minded head coach to oversee the switch to a 4-3 and maximize Cox/Barwin/Graham/Curry/Hicks/Rowe et al. Let Shurmur run the O w/Bradford. They have the history/chemistry and with our RBs and Matthews/Ertz really we just need some offensive line help.

Whatever HC is hired is going to want say on OC/DC most likely but I hope they can manage to retain Shurmur as I think that means we will keep Bradford.

 
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Draft Order:

1. Titans (3-13)

2. Browns (3-13)

3. Chargers (4-12)

4. Cowboys (4-12)

5. Jaguars (5-11)

6. Ravens (5-11)

7. 49ers (5-11)

8. Dolphins (6-10)

9. Buccaneers (6-10)

10. Giants (6-10)

11. Bears (6-10)

12. Saints (7-9)

13. Eagles (7-9)

14. Raiders (7-9)

15. Rams (7-9)

16. Lions (7-9)

17. Falcons (8-8)

18. Colts (8-8)

19. Bills (8-8)

20. Jets (10-6)

Would have picked #10 if we lost. So 3 spots.

EDT: 3 teams above us will likely be in the QB market. No chance on Goff. Probably the next emerging QB will go above us too.

 
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Deamon said:
Draft Order:

1. Titans (3-13)

2. Browns (3-13)

3. Chargers (4-12)

4. Cowboys (4-12)

5. Jaguars (5-11)

6. Ravens (5-11)

7. 49ers (5-11)

8. Dolphins (6-10)

9. Buccaneers (6-10)

10. Giants (6-10)

11. Bears (6-10)

12. Saints (7-9)

13. Eagles (7-9)

14. Raiders (7-9)

15. Rams (7-9)

16. Lions (7-9)

17. Falcons (8-8)

18. Colts (8-8)

19. Bills (8-8)

20. Jets (10-6)

Would have picked #10 if we lost. So 3 spots.
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You sure, I thought we had to pull for the Raiders and Rams to win?

 
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
Draft Order:

1. Titans (3-13)

2. Browns (3-13)

3. Chargers (4-12)

4. Cowboys (4-12)

5. Jaguars (5-11)

6. Ravens (5-11)

7. 49ers (5-11)

8. Dolphins (6-10)

9. Buccaneers (6-10)

10. Giants (6-10)

11. Bears (6-10)

12. Saints (7-9)

13. Eagles (7-9)

14. Raiders (7-9)

15. Rams (7-9)

16. Lions (7-9)

17. Falcons (8-8)

18. Colts (8-8)

19. Bills (8-8)

20. Jets (10-6)

Would have picked #10 if we lost. So 3 spots.
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You sure, I thought we had to pull for the Raiders and Rams to win?
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Ya I missed on one of the calculations on the SOS of the Raiders. We had them beat once you factor in this weeks opponent, I only had up to this weeks factored in. But this is the official list.

We did need them to win for picks in other rounds (the tied teams change order during other rounds). So technically the Rams and Raiders losing hurt us because they'll pick higher then us in rounds 2, 3. (Not sure exactly how that rotation works), but its pretty minor. The first round pick is the big one.

 
Deamon said:
GoBirds said:
Deamon said:
Draft Order:

1. Titans (3-13)

2. Browns (3-13)

3. Chargers (4-12)

4. Cowboys (4-12)

5. Jaguars (5-11)

6. Ravens (5-11)

7. 49ers (5-11)

8. Dolphins (6-10)

9. Buccaneers (6-10)

10. Giants (6-10)

11. Bears (6-10)

12. Saints (7-9)

13. Eagles (7-9)

14. Raiders (7-9)

15. Rams (7-9)

16. Lions (7-9)

17. Falcons (8-8)

18. Colts (8-8)

19. Bills (8-8)

20. Jets (10-6)

Would have picked #10 if we lost. So 3 spots.
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You sure, I thought we had to pull for the Raiders and Rams to win?
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Ya I missed on one of the calculations on the SOS of the Raiders. We had them beat once you factor in this weeks opponent, I only had up to this weeks factored in. But this is the official list.

We did need them to win for picks in other rounds (the tied teams change order during other rounds). So technically the Rams and Raiders losing hurt us because they'll pick higher then us in rounds 2, 3. (Not sure exactly how that rotation works), but its pretty minor. The first round pick is the big one.
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Well, Round 2 is taken care of.

 
Kind of intrigued by the idea of bringing in McDermott and keeping Shurmur. McDermott brings in a coordinator like Rapone (ARI) as DC to help with the transition. Shurmur handles the O and keeps continuity.

Of course it won't necessarily be these guys, but in terms of matches McDermott and Shurmur have deep Philly roots.

 
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