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It's been a great run Peyton - now enjoy retirement.. (1 Viewer)
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His arm strength may well have diminished, but none of the throws they showed in that video had anything to do with arm strength. The pass to D.Thomas in the end zone was inaccurate, but that throw didn't require arm strength. The one where he missed Owen Daniels was just a bad read (which means nothing in the preseason).
To show a lack of arm strength, you have to show him trying to complete a pass that actually requires arm strength.
mr roboto
Footballguy
I think that's how it will be explained. I believe Brock will give them a better chance to win at some point this year.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Fwiw I Agree with your logic.
But I don't think they bench Peyton without it being a true injury.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Why? John Elway has to continue to run the team after Manning so I'm not sure that his main concern is going to be Mannings pride or legacy.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Whole lot of nonsense in here now
FUBAR
Footballguy
Peyton would have to completely fall apart or get injured for that decision to be made.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I seem to remember the last time these arm rumors came out before a season he threw 7 TDs....at home vs. the Baltimore Ravens(with 55 TD's on the season)
Wanna bet it was the same executive that said that then too? Maybe he won't look like such a fool this time.....
Wanna bet it was the same executive that said that then too? Maybe he won't look like such a fool this time.....
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yep, he's going to play forever.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
purestrength
Footballguy
I seem to remember one season with the Colts when he rushed for four touchdowns -- all sneaks, I think. I guess that won't be happening this year.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Maybe I don't really wanna know
How your qb throws
'Cause I just wanna fly
Lately did you ever feel the pain
In the morning rain
As he sacks you to the ground
Maybe I just wanna fly
Want to live I don't wanna die
Maybe I just wanna breath
Maybe I just don't believe
Maybe you're the same as me
We see things they'll never see
You and I are gonna play forever
Sabertooth
Footballguy
The year before Favre retired, he threw for 33 touchdowns and 7 picks.
The end comes quickly.
The end comes quickly.
beef
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
He only starts if Manning is hurt or playoff spot has been clinched or the season is lost. He may play more in the fourth quarter in games Denver has in hand.
FUBAR
Footballguy
This I can see.
Now, if Peyton got hurt and oz played so well that he took over... maybe. Still doubt that but maybe.
Favre was a gunslinging Qb who relied on his arm strength and his toughness for success n the NFL.Sabertooth said:
Manning is a cerebral Qb Who relies on his smarts and his ability to read defenses and catch them off guard. He's a chess player. Chess players play long into their lives.
Nerdface Killah
Footballguy
I still can't believe Favre and the Vikings were gone game away from the Super Bowl that year. Unbelievable run. But hey when the time comes, the time comes. Father time waits for no one.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Favre was a gunslinging Qb who relied on his arm strength and his toughness for success n the NFL.Sabertooth said:
Manning is a cerebral Qb Who relies on his smarts and his ability to read defenses and catch them off guard. He's a chess player. Chess players play long into their lives.
Actually one bad/ dumb throw away from the super bowl. It was kind of amazing. And the end did come quickly.
James Daulton
Footballguy
If he can't do it against the Ravens secondary, he may want to think about hanging them up. I'm predicting he has a good game today.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
It will be interesting to see what he can do on deep passes and ones which require noticeable zip. I love the guy, but feel those will be difficult for him, especially as the season drags on.
moleculo
Footballguy
Unsubstantiated rumor: Broncos have been playing rope-a-dope all pre-season. Manning is showing much more in practice than in games. The Broncos staff treated pre-season games as more of dress-practices than games - they didn't do any game-planning, and they set things up just to evaluate personnel in game-day situations.
Don't be fooled by not-so-great pre-season production from starting O. The team will come out vs Baltimore and show some completely different stuff. Of course we don't really know what the O will look like, and any thoughts on Manning getting through the season is pure speculation, but I have to believe the O will be just fine. Start your Broncos if you have them.
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Cecil Lammey @CecilLammey 22h22 hours ago
for those floating "Peyton's arm is weak" know DEN kept things super vanilla in preseason, PM arm looked much stronger at #BroncosCamp
Cecil Lammey @CecilLammey 22h22 hours ago
Cecil Lammey retweeted Brandon White
LOL, a small handful of preseason snaps is 1 thing...but everyday practice observations from #BroncosCamp are better
Don't be fooled by not-so-great pre-season production from starting O. The team will come out vs Baltimore and show some completely different stuff. Of course we don't really know what the O will look like, and any thoughts on Manning getting through the season is pure speculation, but I have to believe the O will be just fine. Start your Broncos if you have them.
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Cecil Lammey @CecilLammey 22h22 hours ago
for those floating "Peyton's arm is weak" know DEN kept things super vanilla in preseason, PM arm looked much stronger at #BroncosCamp
Cecil Lammey @CecilLammey 22h22 hours ago
Cecil Lammey retweeted Brandon White
LOL, a small handful of preseason snaps is 1 thing...but everyday practice observations from #BroncosCamp are better
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Running vanilla offenses in preseason is one thing, but Manning was taking some good shots on the pass rushes right up in the middle. I can't believe that letting their 39-year old QB take those kind of shots was part of their "dress practices."
We'll know a lot more by the end of the day, but I have zero Broncos offensive players on my handful of fantasy teams this year. I'm not just overly confident that Peyton will defeat Father Time this year, and if he doesn't, the whole offense comes down with him. I pray I am wrong.
We'll know a lot more by the end of the day, but I have zero Broncos offensive players on my handful of fantasy teams this year. I'm not just overly confident that Peyton will defeat Father Time this year, and if he doesn't, the whole offense comes down with him. I pray I am wrong.
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moleculo
Footballguy
I avoided Manning and receivers, but took CJ everywhere I could. Hillman too, for good measure.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Okay, I know the Ravens D is tough and it's not easy to look great against them, but Peyton has clearly lost a lot. He should not have come back. Yeah, I am saying it.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Dizzy
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ooooof
shadyridr
Footballguy
it was a run
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Goodness, he looks bad. Between Peyton and Calvin, they should be sipping lemonade at an old folks home.
purestrength
Footballguy
Coming from a longtime Peyton supporter, I really, really wish I didn't have him on so many fantasy teams. I laughed at the "Osweiler will replace him" talk before today. Now I'm not so sure.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Bump him out of your lineup? He looked terrible too.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Not looking good.
Pipes
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Manning is in the twilight of his career. He has talent all around him and all he has to do is make limited plays just like Elway did. Is he a 400 yards passer like the Manning of the past? No, but he can still manage the game enough to get wins.
What I saw today were timing issues with WRs and O-line issues. Plus the Balt. Defense is no joke--this was a great game to get a win.
Denver is going to kill KC.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
KC could very well kill Denver.Manning is in the twilight of his career. He has talent all around him and all he has to do is make limited plays just like Elway did. Is he a 400 yards passer like the Manning of the past? No, but he can still manage the game enough to get wins.What I saw today were timing issues with WRs and O-line issues. Plus the Balt. Defense is no joke--this was a great game to get a win.
Denver is going to kill KC.
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Manning is done, stick a fork in him. He'll forever be second fiddle to Brady. Say what you want about timing but that arm is fried.
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