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Exactly.
Ideally I would like to have 3 years of data that does not include a rookie season.
I thought the point was you need more carries to give you more data because "the concept that each individual player has their own mean that they regress or progress towards" Would 5 years of data or 4 years of data give you a more accurate picture of a players mean?
The entire AFC West is kind of hard to project this season. In the abstract, I think the Chargers are probably around an 8-8 team if they stay relatively healthy this season, which means it would take only a little luck to win 9 games and contend for a Wild Card spot.
I find this an interesting observation, because I saw just the opposite last year. I watched a good bit of Gordon, and I was seeing him (when he could get past the LOS) make a pretty good amount of guys miss.
Gordon was tied for the 10th most 20+ yard runs last year (6) with players like Freeman, McCoy, DWill and etc, not to mention all of these players had more rushing attempts (Freeman had like 80ish more). If I broke it down by "average 20+ yard run per attempt" Gordon would move even further up the ranks. For as ####ty of a season Gordon had last year, he had a healthy amount of nice runs where he broke into the second level and flashed big play ability.
Went 0 RB in a league (12 team, 0.5 PPR 1/2/2/1/Flex) where QBs, TEs, and RBs were hit early and hit hard. Couldn't have been happier with my WRs (highlighted by Julio, Green and Robinson), and I ended up with Gordon as my #1 RB. Makes me nervous to depend on him, to say the least, but I'm happy with the results.
True. He had 142 rushing yards on those 6 carries. The problem is that he had 178 more carries that only netted 499 yards (2.8 ypc). More than 60% of his carries were for 3 yards or fewer. The 20+ yard carries are nice, but obviously for any RB to be considered a success, he has to perform better than that.
You're right, the heat map for him is pretty damning. Footballoutsider's OL stats also show that it wasn't all on the OL either.
This is the problem I had with him coming into the league. Some people are making it sound like last year was some sort of unusual fluke. Coming out of college he was a guy that got stuffed around the line of scrimmage often(with or without a FB) and that was only offset by the fact he had big plays for TD's. Being one of the best athletes on the field in college is a lot different than being just a good athlete like everyone else in the NFL. Long TD's offsetting getting stuffed is a whole lot different than 6 runs of 20 yards on nearly 200 carries.
As I said at the beginning of this thread: not a lot of successful 6'+, sub 220 lb. RB's with 4.5 speed.
Sounds like as much cherry picking now as it was then.
I don't think you're reading that right. His best official time is the posted time of 4.52. I'm not sure what the 'low' is. My best guess is that's the lowest someone clocked him at but it is not official.
It is in the link. 4.33 was the quickest he timed that day.
Kind of. I mean, his season was so bad last year that there was nowhere to go but up if he is healthy.
This is ridiculous. You need to delve into stats more closely before making such a silly comment.
Fat chance he makes it to the 8th now. I also was targeting him, that will either change or we'll see how far he moves up. Today, nothing else on TV, a lot of folks watched that play in real time and it was impressive. The Vikings are decent on defense, for him to just go in untouched from that far out seemed pretty amazing.
A lot of "after the fact" prognosticators in here...where was the Gordon love two weeks ago.
I have never owned Gordon, so have never traded him away.
Disagree with the bolded statement, there have been a few runs where he put his head down and ran through traffic similar to AP. Today's first or second run(I think) to the right side is an example.
You're right. Today, he looked better, including the run you mentioned. Here are his touches:
I don't think it was a bad offer, but a LOT more competition between Riddick, Zenner, and now reports that even Dwayne Washington has looked the part. Gordon just has Whitehead, and he's a lot older than all the other Lions RBs...at least that was my logic, flawed or not.
This makes no sense. Two weeks ago we hadn't seen him in action and he was coming off a pretty serious knee surgery. Now we've seen some positive signs from him. I don't think too many are saying he's going to be a stud but that there is some evidence he could have a bounce back year thus he's a bargain at his current adp.A lot of "after the fact" prognosticators in here...where was the Gordon love two weeks ago.
