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Not at practice according to Schefter...for a Sunday Game, it's Friday...not looking good I would say. I own him and will have to make other plans. 

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59 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Whiskey Flu. 

I dunno - rotoworld seems to think this is DUI-related. 

Exactly. Whiskey flu.  Dude has been day drinking since the DUI.   Well, since before then evidently.

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Broncos RB Melvin Gordon (illness) is questionable to play Week 6 against the Patriots. 

Gordon was sent home from Friday's practice with an illness that's apparently not COVID related. Broncos beat writer Mike Klis said Gordon has been tested for the virus and is negative. If he's inactive, Phillip Lindsay becomes a viable PPR option against New England. 

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Phillip Lindsay

SOURCE: Ryan O'Halloran on Twitter 

Oct 16, 2020, 3:23 PM ET

 

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NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports Melvin Gordon (illness) needs to be symptom-free on Saturday to make the trip to New England for Week 6.

Gordon does not have the coronavirus, but he does need to shake his current illness to board the flight tomorrow morning. The Broncos will learn if they'll have their starting running back on Saturday and don't appear to be suspending Gordon themselves for his mid-week DUI. The NFL could suspend him games within the next few weeks, however. If Gordon is out this week, Philip Lindsay becomes a volume-based RB2/3 in an impossible road matchup.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Oct 16, 2020, 8:15 PM ET

 

 

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This guy is going to end up losing more money directly due to his decision making over the last 14 months than the money he was sitting out over.

It's a shame. He seems like a hard working likeable guy. If he's not careful he just might get the exact same contract that Lev Bell has just as he as always wanted.

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Disappointed the Broncos didn’t suspend him. I hope the NFL does. No one should drive drunk, especially those who have the means to afford not to. 

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33 minutes ago, whole-show said:

Facing 3 game suspension per Tom Pelissero

From the league, right? 

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Gordon is rated too high on CBSSports IMO - 11.5 in standard scoring. Especially with Lindsay back and doing well last week.

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On 10/18/2020 at 10:58 AM, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Disappointed the Broncos didn’t suspend him. I hope the NFL does. No one should drive drunk, especially those who have the means to afford not to. 

No team is going suspend a player until the league makes a decision. They'd just be double dipping. 

Eta: edit to mention obvious situations like Murder (Hernandez).

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6 minutes ago, Insein said:

No team is going suspend a player until the league makes a decision. They'd just be double dipping. 

Eta: edit to mention obvious situations like Murder (Hernandez).

Why is it double dipping? One is a legal matter; the other is a team disciplinary action. Two completely different things.

Conduct unbecoming has been used to suspend players who were cleared by the legal system in the past.

the Broncos would be well within their rights as an organization to suspend a player for a DUI just as any business can suspend an employee for such conduct.

They don’t *typically* take action until the legal system does, but that doesn’t mean they can’t. 

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4 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Why is it double dipping? One is a legal matter; the other is a team disciplinary action. Two completely different things.

Conduct unbecoming has been used to suspend players who were cleared by the legal system in the past.

the Broncos would be well within their rights as an organization to suspend a player for a DUI just as any business can suspend an employee for such conduct.

They don’t *typically* take action until the legal system does, but that doesn’t mean they can’t. 

From what I've seen if it's ambiguous, teams will not opt to lose a player voluntarily. 

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38 minutes ago, Insein said:

From what I've seen if it's ambiguous, teams will not opt to lose a player voluntarily. 

That doesn’t mean it’s the right or correct thing to do. Just that they prioritize winning a football game over public safety. Nothing new there. 

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7 hours ago, Insein said:

No team is going suspend a player until the league makes a decision. They'd just be double dipping. 

Eta: edit to mention obvious situations like Murder (Hernandez).

It's not double dipping.  If the Broncos handed him a 3 game suspension, and the NFL said 4 games, he'd have to sit 4 games, not 7.

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7 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Why is it double dipping? One is a legal matter; the other is a team disciplinary action. Two completely different things.

Conduct unbecoming has been used to suspend players who were cleared by the legal system in the past.

the Broncos would be well within their rights as an organization to suspend a player for a DUI just as any business can suspend an employee for such conduct.

They don’t *typically* take action until the legal system does, but that doesn’t mean they can’t. 

He said team vs. league.   Neither of those is the legal system.

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Just 13 months ago Melvin Gordon ended his holdout because $10Million/yr was considered an insulting long-term contract offer.

Huh.

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4 hours ago, davearm said:

He said team vs. league.   Neither of those is the legal system

 

oh - he’s quoted me talking abut courts vs team, so I was replying in context.

and the point holds. Team vs league would he two different suspensions. For a DUI the league typically waits for the courts.

but the team can discipline a player as well. And they did - just not enough.

it’s still not double dipping because the leaves suspension is not the same as the team suspension. 

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Broncos' Melvin Gordon: Court date pushed back

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/broncos-melvin-gordon-court-date-pushed-back/

Gordon's court date for his Oct. 13 arrest on DUI and speeding charges has been moved from Friday to Dec. 14 at the request of his attorney, Mike Klis of 9News Denver reports.

Based on the recent NFL precedent for players who have faced similar charges, Gordon is likely to face a three-game suspension, but the league isn't expected to levy punishment on the running back until the legal process is resolved. With that in mind, it's possible that any potential suspension Gordon might face relating to his arrest may not have to be served until 2021. As Klis notes, the Broncos will have three games left on the schedule following Gordon's Dec. 14 court date.

 

 

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This means Phillip Lindsay could be the starter in Weeks 15, 16 , and 17 since Gordon's court date is the day after their Week 14 game.  Gordon would play Week 14 and then serve his suspension over the last 3 weeks of the season.  Unless the Broncos are in the playoff hunt in which case he'll likely delay his court date again and serve his suspension next year.

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If the Broncos are 5-8 after Week 14, they might not be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.  But they'd be pretty close.  I wonder if Melvin would choose to serve his suspension during Weeks 15-17 if they are 5-8 and not officially eliminated?  The Broncos are 3-5 right now so 5-8 is their most likely position after Week 14.  6-7 is also a strong possibility and in which case I think Melvin would delay his court date and play.  Going 1-4 over the next 5 weeks would put Broncos at 4-9 and ensure Melvin serving his suspension over Weeks 15-17.

I wonder if Melvin is going to finagle this into a new contract.  He controls when his suspension is served.  Financially and contract wise, it is in Melvin's interests to serve the suspension this year.  The Broncos might have to pony up and give Melvin a verbal agreement that they'll redo his contract in the offseason in order to get him to delay his suspension until next year.  Maybe add one year to his contract and change his 2021 money into a signing bonus so he'll lose less money to his 3 lost paychecks.

EDIT: after looking at the AFC standings, they'll likely be officially eliminated at 5-8.  There are currently 9 teams with a 5-3 record or better in the AFC.  So 6-7 is the point at which it'll be interesting if Melvin plays or serves his suspension.

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Melvin Gordon rushed 11 times for 46 yards in the Broncos' Week 10 loss to the Raiders.

Gordon now has 25 carries in his past three games combined, all of which saw the Broncos take an early deficit. He exited early in the game with an apparent ankle injury but returned shortly after and didn't seem to be hampered by the injury. The good news for Gordon is that he only ceded six carries to Phillip Lindsay and Royce Freeman including the touches they racked up on his one missed drive. He needs his team to stay competitive to be a viable fantasy option and that may not be the case versus Miami next week. Gordon is a low-floor RB3 option moving forward. 

- Rotoworld

 

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