TartanLion
Footballguy
Jeez I'm in an all time high 3 leagues this year and that's more than enough to completely scramble my brain.
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
its time consuming as well ...who could manage 22 teams??? yikes...my hats off to the person that canTartanLion said:
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
There are a small group of players I target so I end up with very similar teams across the board. For instance, like stated above, I probably have AA in half of them at least and that goes with a lot of players on my teams.
Also, 12 of my 22 leagues are draft only leagues, also known as best ball. So I'm only managing 10 leagues. Then there's FanDuel which is a completely different animal. I probably spend more time analyzing players for FanDuel than anything else. My wife most definitely hates football season.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Tyrion
Footballguy
I keep hearing that Abdulla is for sure going to be the returner but Caldwell doesn't sound so sure. It could just be coach speak but hasn't named a returner yet.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2015/09/07/lions-return-man/71856030/
I doubt Tate is the returner, accept in special situations like when they used him in the playoffs, but I have heard TJ Jones might be the returner as well.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2015/09/07/lions-return-man/71856030/
I doubt Tate is the returner, accept in special situations like when they used him in the playoffs, but I have heard TJ Jones might be the returner as well.
CerealKillerz
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm just going to point out it's pretty rare for a RB to be the full time returner and be the lead back.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
Anyone concerned with him listed as third string on the depth chart?
Start week one with confidence anyway?
Start week one with confidence anyway?
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560002-insider-buzz-abdullah-expected-to-have-more-significant-role-than-bell-riddick
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/09/joique_bell_still_the_lions_no.html
A couple of takes on the situation. The thing that stands out most to me is that Bell has 12 days to be ready for the season opener after missing all of training camp. Coming off the surgeries he had, I find it very difficult to believe that he will be getting a ton of carries in week 1. The insider buzz report seems pretty realistic at least for week 1 given the circumstances.
It would make sense that Bell would be atop the depth chart as the Lions consider him the #1, but doesn't necessary mean that he will get the bulk of the carries right away
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Guess it depends on your options. I have him in the Flex over Spiller (coming off injury, tough matchup.) Crowell is on the end of bench. Or I could throw in Reuben Randle.
With confidence, I said!
To answer your question, it might be meaningless. For instance, I would not expect Theo to out touch him. Lightning to Bell's thunder. His catches might equal his carries, and he's a dynamic player. I do not expect consistency from Ameer in that type of role. They'll be a lot of week to week variance. In these first two road games, being a rookie still trying to find his role, I expect one good and one poor game each.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Yeah, I have to agree, factoring in Bell being eased in and 16-18 touches seems pretty fair. I personally feel pretty comfortable rolling AA out as a RB2 in PPR this week.
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Wait...you think Ameer will get 18 touches? Really?
Bell had 223 carries and 34 catches last year in 15 games - 17.13 per game. There's every indication he's ready to go and his role hasn't changed, so I'm expecting a floor of 15 touches, but if things are going Detroit's way - they're 0-4 in San Diego, so big IF - Joique will be wearing them down in the 4th, and 20-24 touches seems likely.
Bush, Collins (FB), Riddick and Winn totaled 202 touches on the year - 12.63 per game. I figure most (if not all) weeks Ameer will have to get his on 10-12 touches per game, maybe 12-15 as the year progresses.
When Sproles was a PPR monster for the Saints (and Lombardi surely intends to use Abudullah in a similar role), he had seasons with 16-173, 13-123, and 13-124 (G/Touches.) He was top 12 two of those years on a PPG basis.
That's my expectation for Ameer. Low volume, high production. I'd be thrilled if he got 10-12 touches this week.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I've echoed your exact sentiments multiple times in this thread as it pertains to the season, I 100% agree. My post was in response to the insider buzz video DeaLerZ linked and it only pertains to week 1. I do not expect Bell to touch the ball 22-24 times week 1, or at least I'd be very surprised. I mean he missed all of training camp, I have a hard time believing he'll be able to get into game shape in 12 days.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
How many does it take to get into game shape?
I mean, it's not like he's been sitting on the couch eating Cheetos. He says he's fitter & healthier now than he has been at any point in the last 3 years. The day they took him off PUP he went straight to taking 1 reps.
I'm expecting Joique to be Joique, but maybe they'll east him back. I don't see it but I could be wrong. Coaches haven't called me for advice all year.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Well, Bell is no doubt going to say "I'm feeling great." or "I'm ahead of schedule." when asked about his progression. He also noted that when he took first team reps in practice it was still on a limited basis.
I'm sure he's rehabbed properly or he wouldn't be at this stage but I think you're underestimating just how important training camp/preseason is when it comes to whipping players into game shape. It may be an arbitrary assumption but I feel like 12 days isn't quite enough.
FantasySeer
Footballguy
BobbyLayne said:
you guys
he's coming off knee AND achilles surgery
he's also old
he was also bottom third of the league in success rate the last three seasons.
ameer's going to be a star
and he's going to produce well for fantasy on 15 touches a week
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
This is what I believe as well. To be successful at this hobby requires, more than anything, an ability to read the tea leaves, imo. There are certain situations that are just 'obvious' to me and this is one of them. I'm starting AA as my RB2 with confidence. I just refuse to accept Bell starting and being effective week 1 when he's coming off achilles and knee injuries. He's also 29 years old and mediocre at best. That's A LOT to overcome if you ask me. Meanwhile, AA was a star RB in college with ELITE metrics in everything but the 40. He busted a 40 some yarder on his 2nd NFL run, albeit in the preseason and seems like the Lions have sheltered him since that run. I mean, if you're an NFL team and you know what you got and you're trying to get an edge, of course you're going to hide your hand. That's like strategy 101.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
I'm in, snagged him at a good price... my eyes don't deceive me, he looked great in these games and seemed very featured to me, I don't see how he doesnt get 15 touches...
T with T
Footballguy
I agree Im starting him with confidence, homer here live near detroit, this is an easy one and I agree about reading the leaves, this is one you can see a mile away. 15 touches he will play Jahvid best role. Bell will be short yardage and when Abdullah needs breather or to pound ball out 2 min warning type stuff. I have Forte/Abdullah in a start 2rb ppr and I was told my wrs were awesome but rbs are not that great. I almost fell out of my chair because I actually think that will be a GREAT combo and is perfect for PPR esp going 3 wrs in 4 rounds.. I would be ecstatic if you told me you got great wrs and could piece AMEER as your rb2. He will be top 10 in ppr book it, and will win ROY
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Well Im on the wagon. Snagged him at 67th overall last night (non-PPR). Forget about week 1 with Joique, I dont think he'll see more than 10 touches for a few weeks.
He looks like a top 20 RB option this week.
He looks like a top 20 RB option this week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Same.
Took him at 6.08 (68th), starting him in the Flex Week 1 with Spiller out (and Crowell facing a tough matchup.)
Not expecting volume, but he'll likely score plenty most weeks even without a ton of touches.
bocksheesh
Footballguy
If you want Abdullah, what round are you targeting taking him to make siurr you get him - in a 10 team league?
I haven't read the whole thread so excuse me if a honda.... Who was the better prospect Best or Abdullah? Same relative size/weight ratios. Best obviously had the edge in the speed department. Abdullah seems to have the edge in vision/instincts. I loved Best's potential but Abdullah's lack of long speed has me hesitant that he's a future star.
aardball44
Footballguy
You mean Bell, not Best.
massraider
Footballguy
No, I think he means Jahvid Best.
I can't recall who was better, but they were similarly rated, I think.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Right now AA is third on the depth chart behind Bell and Riddick. Plus they want to use Zenner some as well. Sounds like the Lions will be a full blown RBBC team this season.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Own him in both of my leagues. Took him at 5.1 in a 12 team redraft .5 ppr last night. Took him in the first round of my 10 team keep 5 league a couple of weeks ago, but he holds more value there because one of our keepers has to be a rookie.
Don't have huge expectations but i think he'll be good. I'd sign for rb3/flex production right now.
Don't have huge expectations but i think he'll be good. I'd sign for rb3/flex production right now.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Doubled down and took AA with pick 55 (PPR).
identikit
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Well Best was a late 1st round pick, AA was a mid-late 2nd round pick so there's that.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@kmeinke: Lombardi on Abdullah: He's going to get a chance to run the ball, and he's going to get a chance to be used extensively in the passing game.
@kmeinke: Head's up fantasy peeps: Abdullah probably is going to play a lot.
Kyle Meinke is the Lions beat writer for MLive.
@kmeinke: Head's up fantasy peeps: Abdullah probably is going to play a lot.
Kyle Meinke is the Lions beat writer for MLive.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
T with T
Footballguy
I did, He wil fill the role that Best did with lions. I remember it clearly guys im in DETROIT I remember the good days. RBBC I think not if so I still think Abdullah gets 15 touches
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@kmeinke: Joe Lombardi said Zach Zenner is "a heck of a special teams player." If true, that'll help his case to be active on Sunday
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm trying super hard to just generally temper my expectations but there's no other player I'm more excited to watch play this weekend.
Easily... Can't wait to see what this guy can do.
Have a feeling that he is going to be a PPR monster given these recent reports.
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DET v SD is getting the Sunday Ticket treatment this week, with an occasional flip to the NO/ARZ matchup.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
jurb26
Footballguy
I'll believe it when I see it. I don't trust them using him on both KO and punt returns if they have big plans. Unless, that is part of the "big plans." It's pretty unusual for a RB to be involved heavily in the offense if they are the sole return guy.
ryno1980
Footballguy
http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/DET
He's not the sole return guy. I'd be surprised if he does any returning
He's not the sole return guy. I'd be surprised if he does any returning
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Lions website list Jones, Wilson, Abdullah (in that order) for KR. He is not listed for PR.
