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Duke Johnson RB Dolphins (1 Viewer)
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Dismattle
Footballguy
That is tough I'm kinda shocked folks haven't already listed accepted trades Fair offer might be Robert Woods That actually might be a bit extreme But I traded Miller for Woods last season
hamsterdam
Footballguy
I got Duke in the 7th as the news broke. Went RB heavy to start, so thinking of throwing up an offer for a WR like TY Hilton, since people seem to be super down on him after the Luck retirement (I still think he'll put up good WR2 numbers).
I just can't shake the feeling that Duke is going to be a major value this year, flirting with 15-20 touches a game.
I just can't shake the feeling that Duke is going to be a major value this year, flirting with 15-20 touches a game.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
If you think this means your 4th RB is unlikely to see your lineup, welcome to your first year of fantasy football. You are in for a surprise.
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Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
when you say major value, I question that going forward, saw about 5 footballguys players championship drafts this weekend he went between 4.2 and 5.4
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
As someone who had Hilton the last time Luck wasn't around, I would rather have Duke.
leftcoastheel
Footballguy
Slider
Footballguy
Dismattle
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure this was for Dynasty Maybe start two w/ a flex I would imagine he has another three or four backs who may or may not be quite so shabby Backs who just may not have as much current selling power Nobody seen no trades tho?
matuski
Footballguy
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az_prof
Footballguy
Your projects are conservative and I wouldn't be surprised to see Duke get closer to 180 or 190 carries and 55 receptions, but even with this conservative estimate he would rank as RB20 in my ppr league last season. 191 points would put him 3 points behind Chubb, two behind Tevin Coleman, and 1 behind Adrian Peterson and 9 more than Mack and Howard.Bracie Smathers said:
180 caries at 4.2 ypc=756 yard. 3 rushing TDs
55 receptions at 9.2 ypc = 506 yards receiving and 3 TDs
PPR point total= 217 points
That would put him at RB14 last year, just behind Lindsay at 222 and ahead of Drake at 208.
I think RB14 is closer to where he ends up in ppr leagues. Remember, in 2017 just two years ago, he was RB11 in ppr leagues.
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BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
I didn't want to go into my whole roster and league set up, but.....
we start 5 flex basically with max of 3 rb ... I have McCaffrey, Bell, DFreeman, Hopkins, Thielen, KAllen, AJ Green, Dede, Godwin, Kelce, Kittle so good chance Duke doesn't see the field
Dismattle
Footballguy
yeah I dunno We might be getting a bit off-topic here But I'm not so sure any WR gained in trade would do so much in comparison to injury/bye situation at RB Flex is flex tho... (More importantly BearsFan doesn't seem to enthused about Duke's potential) Should be interesting to see what the trade looks like thus providing more insight especially for any hoping to acquire
(fwiw) I think WR's is very valuable But I like RB's for the potential in point's
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Back on Duke...
I just ran the football guys “rate my team” again for my dynasty team that has duke Johnson, and apparently they are now ranking Duke Johnson ahead of Mark Ingram.
And yes, my “chances of making the playoffs” improved by about 6% from the last time I ran it. The algorithm also stopped complaining about my lack of depth at running back.
So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
I just ran the football guys “rate my team” again for my dynasty team that has duke Johnson, and apparently they are now ranking Duke Johnson ahead of Mark Ingram.
And yes, my “chances of making the playoffs” improved by about 6% from the last time I ran it. The algorithm also stopped complaining about my lack of depth at running back.
So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
12 team PPR redraft, Sunday he went 4.10, so yeah - people are high on his outlook in HOU a for sure. I believe FBG has him top 20.
Insein
Footballguy
Just did another DD and got him at 5.12. I do t think they have it updated enough. I think it has him ranked 23 still.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I love him anywhere late 5th/early 6th.
Because if you have him as a RB3/flexthat’s pretty much his floor.
So sure, much earlier than before the injury, but a fair price.
IMO late 4th was a bit of a reach. I wouldn’t take him ahead of David Montgomery.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
What happened to everyone saying they would sign someone off the scrap heap to be the “feature back?” I’m banging dukes drum as loudly as anyone, but all I’ve heard is “they’ll sign Carlos Hyde to take the early down work.” Or some other also ran. I might throw out some trade offers when they do sign some future garbageman.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Of the many possibilities I like Drake.
It would create a pretty clear committee, and DJ would retain significant value on a team that should be throwing a lot.
and Drake can’t stay healthy so we’d ha w some boom games from feature back Duke.
TheWinz
Footballguy
I'd rather for Duke's sake to have an aging plodder with Roberto Duran's hands. A guy who wears down and finally says "No mas". Drake has the skills to siphon from Duke's bread & butter.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Well if we’re playing that game, I’d rather the Texans trade Clowney for an OL where they really need help, and make Duke the featured back.
TheWinz
Footballguy
Oh, I like it - Trent Williams for Clowney straight upWell if we’re playing that game, I’d rather the Texans trade Clowney for an OL where they really need help, and make Duke the featured back.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Agreed that seems a good place to take him. No sensible owner should take Duke ahead of David Montgomery
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s the name I had in mind. They’ve said he’s not available but Clowney is a blue chip player & that’s a fair deal. I don’t. Think Stills + gimpy Drake gets it done.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Why, exactly? He’s the prototypical size/weight for a future back in the NFL.
I get the sense that people see Duke Johnson is some sort of underweight, undersized scat back… Dude is 5’10”, 210 pounds.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
If a deal doesn't involve a starting LT there is zero sane reason for the Texans to trade Clowney. Of course they have no GM so who knows if they are going to make a sane decision...
az_prof
Footballguy
This makes sense; and no team is going to trade a quality starting LT because they are so important and valuable.
Redskins might, their LT is refusing to suit up for them. Reportedly the Dolphins are interested in Clowney but aren't willing to part with Tunsil so that's likely going nowhere. The mentioned Drake + Stills would be a pitiful return.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They could get Doctson too, addressing another key need & getting a potentially talented plug & play WR who needs a change of scenery bad.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Elevencents
Footballguy
Really? Hmm. I’m starting off with Kamara, Henry, Guice and Barber (as keepers) and no receivers so I’m obviously going WR heavy to start. I was gonna go Fournette/Williams in the 3rd and then Duke in the 6th (Kelce is a keeper in the 5th) but doesn’t look like that is going to work.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
The depth chart behind him seems to be Hyde, Howell, Taiwan Jones....
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Today wasn’t a great day for the Texans and their fan base, but it was a great day for Duke. Arrow pointing way up.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Wow. BOB is a maroon.The depth chart behind him seems to be Hyde, Howell, Taiwan Jones....
BINGBING
Footballguy
I love DTC Izzy, but he went on a huge rant on twitter about how Hyde kills Duke's value mostly based on how Hue Jackson handled his RB's....HUE JACKSON. Not to mention making the defense weaker and the O-Line stronger is perfect for Duke's versatile skill set.
az_prof
Footballguy
I am starting him this week over Derrick Henry in ppr league. This matchup with New Orleans should be a high scoring one for both teams.
Leroy Hoard
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Rove!
Footballguy
No team has put him as a bell cow before
they have, instead, opted for guys like Isaiah Crowell, Carlos Hyde and Nick Chubb. Now after the Miller injury, the Texans immediately trade for Hyde...for some reason coaches don’t want DJJ to get carries in volume...
Tanner9919
Footballguy
I think it's more a matter of coaches don't think a 'smaller' RB can handle the workload, not because they can't but because coaches don't give them the chance, they suffer from paralysis by over analysis. Jamaal Charles was ,what, 5'9 199lbs, he's about the only smaller RB that actually got the bellcow treatment.
B O'Brien is smart enough to realize what he has in DJ, and what he lacks in Carlos Hyde.
B O'Brien is smart enough to realize what he has in DJ, and what he lacks in Carlos Hyde.
