Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
WR Breshad Perriman, IND (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Faust
- Start date
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Been fighting that feeling myself. However, I put in a waiver claim for him anyway, but missed out.
Secured and am starting Justin Watson instead, and am strangely relieved. We shall see.
Shrek
Having a great season
The problem is that everyone seems to be concentrating on ceiling here, when the important number is the floor. Since week 3, Winston has thrown for over 300 yards in every game but 2. He's gone over 40 attempts in 7 of the last 9. And he's going for those previously mentioned single season records. There are going to be a lot of passes to go around. Godwin had 8 targets before he went down, and I expect Perriman to get the bulk of those first looks. And with Godwin, Evans, and Scott Miller all out, I would have to think Perriman gets at least 8 or 9 targets. His floor is what makes it such an easy call to play him this week, IMO. I'm playing him in my flex over Golladay, Mostert, and Robby Anderson and not even thinking twice about it.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
The Texans might be thinking the same thing and will put a lot of defensive attention on Perriman. Perriman isn't so studly that he should be thrown to when covered. Justin Watson has a 50% chance of scoring more fantasy points than Perriman.Shrek said:
I watched him years ago and he was awful. I saw him earlier this year against the Titans. He ran into the center or....something wow bad presnap and also seemed like he forgot to put his hands up as the ball hit his facemask. It was so unbelievable looking at his stats last week.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Because he's not the same player he was in Baltimore. People tend to think once you have the bust label you don't change, and that can lead to being labeled. The thing is he wasn't bad with Cleveland during his time there, he was at least better there than with the Ravens in limited opportunities. Here he's going to get bankable volume in a shootout w/ a dude who probably will throw to him covered or not. I'm not saying he's going to reap souls out there, but he has an opportunity for a solid line due to probably getting 8-10 targets. Based on his site projections all he really needs to pay off is 11 FP; could be 50/1 or 110/0.Bri said:
Don Hutson
Footballguy
habsfan
Footballguy
I'm starting him in a flex position but hardly confident. We've seen lots of examples of receivers who rake as WR2s and get shut down when the WR1 attention is on them. I haven't studied every snap of Perriman but I'll go out on a limb and say we've seen it happen to better receivers than him. As a single variable, more volume is obviously better than less but that isn't the only aspect of his situation that has changed.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
No, come on. Other than him being a better football player and producing better stats, how is he better?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The difference is that Perriman has the speed to get by any of the HOU DBs.Don Hutson said:
hard to cover someone when they’re 10 yards downfield from you.
Perriman has now had several nice games with all the receivers healthy this year, and is on a really nice 3 game stretch. Every time he’s targeted he produces. With Evans & Godwin out, I read that’s ~15 targets that have to go somewhere. Perriman has 6 targets in each of the last 3 and he's produced. Earlier this year when he had targets he produced.
so if he gets say, +3 targets this week (9) he should produce even more. If he gets +6 targets this week (12) he could be a league-winner.
As what’s likely a flex play for teams, Perriman has a terrific ceiling. I don’t see his floor as “shut down by HOU secondary” because they HOU secondary has been mostly bad this year. I believe 20th?
yeah - fire up Perriman. Winston is balling & will force the ball to anyone at any time to mixed results, and has the cannon to get it to Perriman deep. And Ariens will take some deep shots today.
Dodds has him 11th PPR. Hard to bench a dude like that.
Last edited by a moderator:
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Kind of reminds me of DeVante Parker this year. Guy has been a massive bust for years until the last month this season. Before the concussion, he was in everyone's SL thanks to a crazy 180 in production. Players do change and improve... some later than others.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
If I'm not mistaken both WRs also have no coaches this year.Sometimes that's what it takes to get a light bulb to go on
The difference is that the “attention” that the WR1 is going to get is just not very good. It’s not like Ramsey, or J.White is going to be covering him. If so, then I would agree.
Last edited by a moderator:
mozzy84
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I take no responsibility for your fantasy decisions, unless they work out, in which case I’m a genius.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
oops - double post.
Last edited by a moderator:
IdiotSavant
Footballguy
Gotta decide between Perriman or AJ Brown. Both have been on fire as of late. Tough choice but a good one to have.
No way I could put OBJ in my championship line up after the turd he’s been all year. I actually cut him two weeks ago to avoid this decision. I hope he works out for you if you start him, but Perriman is the only guy in town, and with a slinging QB.
Turd has Faker Mayfield
Nuff said.Not only am I doing this but I cut OBJ to dare my competition to come get him. He’s still a FA.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Love that move. It's tempting with name value and if your opponent is in need of a receiver this could get him.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I've flopped in one championship league combining week 16 & 17. Back to playing AJ Brown & C Sutton while sitting Perriman and Edelman.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Interestingly enough Yahoo! dropped Perriman's projection to 8.65 (was over 9 FP most of the week) and raised Watson to 6.44 (was below 6 then crept over it Thursday).
Unlike Baltimore he's actually doing something... in Cleveland he was actually producing a little in limited opportunities, but nowhere near his draft label. It's been roughly the same with Tampa but he's been more consistent and more importantly, limiting the mental errors and horrible drops (still has a few). Hell, this stretch I outlined is the best of his career and it's not like the D he's facing is a huge threat to shut it down.
Last edited by a moderator:
foxco
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
20 in ppr with 100 bonus. But yeah he's looks a bit like new born fawn out there sometimes.
Last edited by a moderator:
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Nice game, sure could have used that overthrown TD though in the 1st half.
The Frankman
Footballguy
So many overthrows, he was arguably overthrown for 3 potential TDs.
Last edited by a moderator:
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Steeler
Footballguy
I'm pleased with the 13.7 total in .5 ppr - helps that my opponent started Winston.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
With 100 yard bonus, I got 19.2 out of him.
if Winston didn’t have his head up his butt all day, I expect we would’ve gotten a lot more.
still, a fairly solid outing. add to that my opponent started Fuller, got three points from him and left with a groin injury and it adds up to a pretty good day.
if Winston didn’t have his head up his butt all day, I expect we would’ve gotten a lot more.
still, a fairly solid outing. add to that my opponent started Fuller, got three points from him and left with a groin injury and it adds up to a pretty good day.
Last edited by a moderator:
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In Dynasty, my week 15 opponent had Winston and killed me with them. Why couldn’t he have done this last week In dynasty, my week 15 opponent had Winston and killed me with him. Why couldn’t he have done this last week?
KingPrawn
Footballguy
You can say that againIn Dynasty, my week 15 opponent had Winston and killed me with them. Why couldn’t he have done this last week In dynasty, my week 15 opponent had Winston and killed me with him. Why couldn’t he have done this last week?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Shrek
Having a great season
17 points from him in PPR. If you had told me before the game started, "I'll either let you start Perriman and guarantee you 17 points, or you can take your chances with Golladay or Mostert", I would have taken the 17 all day. 12 targets, and if not for Winston looking really bad all day, Perriman could have easily had another monster day.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
I thought you may have Morty King in your employVoice to text does that sometimes.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
So he was a chump for 3 years. But now he is a stud? Maybe. I have more faith in his situation than I have in him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He wasn’t the problem today. Winston (e.g. his situation) was terrible & he still had a solid game.
i don’t think he was a chump for 3 years. I think a Baltimore didn’t use him right & maybe he didn’t gel with his coaches. Ariens is a passing game guru, sometimes a change of scenery & it clicks.
Last edited by a moderator:
Don Hutson
Footballguy
I'm in Vietnam. My time zones are all messed up. I didn't realize that he had actually already played. 7 catches and 102 yards is really good. I started him in one league. I am pleased.He wasn’t the problem today. Winston (e.g. his situation) was terrible & he still had a solid game.
i don’t think he was a chump for 3 years. I think a Baltimore didn’t use him right & maybe he didn’t gel with his coaches. Ariens is a passing game guru, somethings a change of scenery & it clicks.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
One of the best catches of the year today back of the end zone vs the Falcons.
EthnicFury
Footballguy
He legitimately seems to have broken out. I’d left him for dead like everyone else. Very curious where he ends up, and what his value is in dyno with that up in the air. I imagine he’s priced himself out of being a team’s wr3 at this point
mozzy84
Footballguy
Right?! Same as you, drafted in the first, held for two years ,cut, on and on waivers with a few different teams. Kinda funny being he helped me a win a super bowl this year after picking him up about a month ago lol.
will be interesting What kind of value he will have come next August.
