Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I added some quotes - that site had nothing from 2019 where he clearly missed games.
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Dynasty and Redraft: David Johnson Saints (4 Viewers)
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Footballguy
Definitely seems like a strong possibility. Although even there I'd think he won't get close to his past production.
Although I'd bet on the Steelers at least kicking the tires.
rockaction
Footballguy
He looked so bad last year that he wasn't even fit to run in a reasonable college game. If he's healthy, he's decent. If he's not fit, forget it.
Looks like rotoworld pulled the report. It was from a click-baity article that was taking crazy swings at stuff that could possibly happen. To say it's "expected" was a pretty huge gaffe.
I'm not sure it makes practical sense with the cap situation anyway.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
if it could be done cap wise i could see a trade and or a release
Contract is guaranteed so cutting him won't help cap and only way I could see where they could deal him is they paid someone to take him, like the Osweiller deal.
I read a few weeks ago, can't recall from who, that the role he would play in Arizona next year if he returns would look more like an H-back then RB.
What an amazingly useless article. So you should try to sell DJ and Gurley? Great advice. Now I just need to find a sucker in my league who doesn't follow the NFL or fantasy football.
It wouldn't help the cap this year, but it would help in future years because he would be off the books. I think they will just cut him. They have more than enough room to do so. If I were them, I would be concerned about a situation whereby a malcontent backup RB was making considerably more than the franchise back (presumably Drake).
Have to cut him prior to 3/20 or part of his 2021 salary becomes fully guaranteed ($2.1M.) I did not think they would a few months ago but given that and the ability to spread the cap hit between 2 years if they designate him a post-June 1st cut it's a definite possibility. That gives them some relief this year for the hit plus if he signs somewhere else his new salary will slightly offset what they owe.
I can't see someone trading him for him unless they send a pick with him like someone related with Brock Osweiler. They have repeatedly said they won't trade Patrick Peterson but a package deal with DJ would be a tantalizing offer for many teams IMO.
I can't see someone trading him for him unless they send a pick with him like someone related with Brock Osweiler. They have repeatedly said they won't trade Patrick Peterson but a package deal with DJ would be a tantalizing offer for many teams IMO.
Yes, but the bigger picture is:Faust said:
* they have the cap room to release him
* better to grasp the nettle and do it now than next year and incur further cap hits
* having him still on the roster will impact attempts to re-sign Drake because Drake will want more money than his backup
* he's not Kingsbury's guy, a coach building a new team will want to clear out the old guard
* he's already getting old for a RB (28 next season) so clearly not the future
* GMs (like Keim) are more inclined to make "difficult" decisions when things are going well (the same logic applies to politicians), right now he is golden because he drafted Murray so he will calculate it is good time to do it
ZWK
Footballguy
Cutting David Johnson would only save $3.15M. That's $1.05M in roster bonuses that he's owed during this year, plus $2.1M of his 2021 contract that becomes guaranteed if he is on the roster March 19th.
His $10.2M base salary for this year is fully guaranteed, so the only way to save that money would be to trade him.
There is also $6M of signing bonus that he was paid that hasn't counted against cap yet, which by default will count $3M this year and $3M next year (but would accelerate to all count this year if they cut or trade him).
His full 2021 salary is $9M (including roster bonuses), so if the $2.1M becomes guaranteed then they could still cut him after this year to save the other $6.9M.
His $10.2M base salary for this year is fully guaranteed, so the only way to save that money would be to trade him.
There is also $6M of signing bonus that he was paid that hasn't counted against cap yet, which by default will count $3M this year and $3M next year (but would accelerate to all count this year if they cut or trade him).
His full 2021 salary is $9M (including roster bonuses), so if the $2.1M becomes guaranteed then they could still cut him after this year to save the other $6.9M.
I would have expected Keim to say that he is not going to cut him. It would make sense to try to get whatever he can for him in compensation (and salary cap relief) via trade. If he says he is going to cut him he kills any market for a trade. I still think he will eventually cut him after no-one trades for him.
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kutta
Footballguy
I’m hoping so. BA loved him, but who really knows. DJ’s contract makes it almost impossible to pull of a trade, and the Cards would kind of screw themselves by cutting him, but dang, Tampa seems like a match made in heaven.
From yesterday:
@gregauman
Arians said he puts a premium on running backs who can catch, that way they stay on the field on third down. "Edgerrin James never came off the field. Marshall Faulk never came off the field. For me, I'm looking for that type of guy. David Johnson-type guy. I can't use his name."
ahartig
Footballguy
Could DJ void his contract to facilitate a trade so he actually plays? I assume this is possible but unlikely as he would not get near the same amount of money he is currently guaranteed, but still. DJ seems like smart guy and one that is not content sitting on the sidelines when he got a taste of being a feature back......at what point does money not matter? I'm sue he would still get a nice contract somewhere else and I can see DJ continuing his career off the field as an announcer or coach.
ahartig
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If he was a smart guy he would not be voiding his sweet contract at 29 years old and the finish line to his career in sight.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I'm not arguing with you, just saying that people seem to think he's dead and there's a lot of reason to think that's not true.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I didn't think you were. That was a sincere "thanks". I actually think he was injured last year and has a good chance to bounce back with health - he looked like a guy trying to run with a jacked up back.
I still think it wouldn't be a smart move for him financially to waive his contract following a season like that/ I also don't see how Arizona can afford to re-sign Drake so I don't think he really needs to go anywhere else to get back on the field.
Warhogs
Footballguy
If I am David Johnson there is no way I am waiving that fat contract at this point in his career. He is now past his days of getting a big long term contract. Collect your money on that contract because moving forward you are probably on an incentive laden contract at 1-2 years.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Really odd fit. Houston is one of the few teams that already had a RB that is as dangerous as David Johnson in the receiving game.
Have not seen details of trade yet but might be one of those deals were Arizona paid Houston to take him.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Faust
MVP
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
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I think its more likely he's the 2nd best RB on his team with D.Johnson on his nameplate.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
They eatin' that contract for 1 ugly year and then cutting him.
All that cap room will go to Watson in 2021.
All that cap room will go to Watson in 2021.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
they might use him as a Larry Centers type of RB 
That's the only thing I can think of. They plan on running multiple RB sets with the other DJ or splitting one or both out wide on a regular basis. IMO, they don't have a true regular 1st & 2nd down RB on the roster with Hyde gone as I don't think they can use DJ with his injuries like they did Miller or Hyde. Those guys were more often used as 2 down bangers.
