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2015 PDSL2 Discussion Thread

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QB - Eli Manning, Derrick Carr

RB - Frank Gore, Devonta Freeman, Montee Ball, Dan "Boom" Herron

WR - Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, Donte Moncrief, Terrance Williams, Cordarrelle Patterson

TE - Travis Kelce, Michael Rivera

K - Steven Hauscka, Nick Novak

Def - Carolina, Pittsburgh

no much more to add since last update, decided to lock in Herron to go with my Gore pick, now they will draft a RB early to screw me.

talked about the double cowboy WR dip.

Cordarrelle is a guy who is perfect for best ball. dont have to decide when to start him, will get his 4 decent/big games he has this year, hopefully Norv figures some things out for the kid, but hes an idiot so who knows.

Took a flyer on Montee Ball incase the broncos go run heavy and its not solely the CJA show.

Rivera seemed like great value as a back up TE.

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so wifi goes out at work - get home ...power in the neighborhood is out :wall: . All good now though and predrafted my next pick.

I take it all back then and apologize for my thoughts ;)

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1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42

Time for a recap.

Loved the start with Antonio and Foster, plus I thought Matthews was solid value at WR21 in Round 3.

Decisions had to be made come Rounds 4-7, where Alfred Morris fell to me and I couldn't pass him up. I could have gone QB there, but felt I could get decent value in Rounds 5-7. Got tricky and lost on Eli by one pick, who is a bit more stable (as a starter at least) than Cutler. Got Bradford in Rd7 who I think is a solid QB2 candidate in this format, and he works for some dude named Chip Kelly, which can't be all bad in that offense.

Needed TE help so took "old reliable" Jason Witten. Took him in Rd6 instead of QB2 as I felt value would be there in Rd7, and it was.

VJax felt like a great value all the way in Rd 8 / WR42 as my WR3.

Don't think I would change anything in hindsight, but I went QB in Rd 4 I would have taken Cam and then Rd 5 would probably be Ellington. So comes down to Ellington/Cam vs. Cutler/AMorris. Probably would like the former slightly more, but hindsight is 20/20.

Also wanted J. Cameron but he didn't fall enough - good pick by the sea.

Updates
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6

14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17

Nothing sexy here. Solid TE2. WR4/5 both from CHI (plus with Cutler) and now I have a guy who finds a way to find the EZ (Royal) and the projected starter outside (M. Wilson).
Sproles was a solid pick but was hoping for Branden Oliver (who might start? or Reggie Bush perhaps
NE is always a very steady D/ST option.
Waited a bit for PK, but Sturgis should be just fine as a PK1.
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27

Love Beasley as a WR6.

Dallas has never shared a bye week with NE (since 2002). That makes me feel better about DAL as DEF/ST 2.

NO has never shared a bye week with MIA (since 2002). That makes me feel better about S. Graham as PK 2.

3 more fliers to take.

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BTW - if Maxx Williams lasted another trip to me, he wasn't going past. I almost took him and waited on PK2, but with Witten and HMiller, thought TE3 might be overkill.

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Cleaner team version.

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76
6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21

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Cleaner team version.

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21

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Brees, Drew NOS QB 459.50 6 4.02

Bridgewater, Teddy MIN QB 256.85 10 6.02


Asiata, Matt MIN RB 192.20 10 19.15

Cobb, David FA RB ® - - 12.02

McKinnon, Jerick MIN RB 94.30 10 8.02

Murray, DeMarco PHI RB 361.10 7 2.02

Richardson, Trent OAK RB 119.80 5 17.15

Sankey, Bishop TEN RB 100.20 9 7.15


Bowe, Dwayne CLE WR 135.40 4 10.02

Coates, Sammie FA WR ® - - 18.02

Green, A.J. CIN WR (P) 209.30 4 1.15

Jackson, DeSean WAS WR 209.60 10 3.15

Randle, Rueben NYG WR 182.80 8 11.15

Nick Toon


Cameron, Jordan MIA TE 102.40 5 5.15

Davis, Vernon SFO TE 88.90 8 9.15


Barth, Connor DEN PK 60.00 4 14.02

Suisham, Shaun PIT PK 132.00 12 13.15


49ers, San Francisco SFO Def 131.00 8 16.02

Bengals, Cincinnati CIN Def 104.00 4 15.15

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Stinkin Ref:

4.13 Tom Brady QB7 NE

6.13 Carson Palmer QB21 AZ

2.13 Jeremey Hill RB11 CIN

5.04 Todd Gurley RB24 FA

11.04 Reggie Bush RB48 SF

17.04 Robert Turbin RB61 SEA

3.04 Julian Edelman WR17 NE

7.04 Kevin White WR38 FA

8.13 Charles Johnson WR46 MIN

10.13 Justin Blackmon WR59 JAC

12.13 Kenny Britt WR68 STL

16.13 Cecil Shorts WR83 HOU

19.04 Chris Matthews WR95 SEA

1.04 Jimmy Graham TE2 SEA

9.04 Coby Fleener TE21 IND

13.04 Dan Bailey PK4 DAL

15.04 Josh Brown PK20 NYG

14.13 Kansas City Chiefs DST12

18.13 New Orleans Saints DST29

12th: Britt: They resigned him, he wants to be there, he showed he may have turned the corner as a professional and with Foles and improved QB play, we may see him drastically outperform his ADP. I would not be surprised to see him finish top 30. Quick had some pretty serious shoulder damage, and Bailey is nothing to write home about. Britt is locked in as a WR2 if not WR1 heading into next year; I’ll take that in the 12th while others are diving deeper down some other depth charts. Decent value as WR68.

13th: Bailey: May not score the most points but maybe the best kicker in the league. Guy is money. Losing Murray may lead to some stalls in the red zone. I love me some Bailey and went with him early and would have been okay going solo with him if I felt better about my team overall.

14th: Chiefs DST: I had planned on targeting KC shortly after all the top DST were off the board. Pretty solid unit that gets to the QB and has some talent coming back from injury that I think many forgot about. This team has the potential to do some damage on special teams as well with Thomas. Grind it out offense that finds a way to move the chains keeping the defense off the field and in low scoring games. Couple games last year including one of the DEN games where the other team only had the ball like twice in a half. Much of this doesn’t translate to fantasy points, but pressuring the QB with sacks, forcing fumbles, INT’s, and the return game do. I think this DST checks all those boxes.

15th: Brown: Took a gamble hoping DAL and NYG don’t share a bye week. Nothing special here, decided to add a second PK cause I may be on the cut line quite a bit with this team and might need those handful of points he scores more than Bailey some weeks.

16th: Shorts: As we move forward in these survivors and then later into the Anarchy’s, etc. this will be a situation I will be keeping an eye on. Shorts may not have a ton of redraft value as a redraft starter every week, but if he locks in as the WR2 in HOU he might be a nice play in best ball as a WR 4-5-6. AJ gone, HOU signs Shorts pretty quick, realize they brought in Washington too. We’ll see. He has shown he can make some plays and that was with JAC with some pretty average QB play so you have to think the arrow is pointing slightly up. I realize we are not totally sure what Mallet brings to the table yet, but I think he is a decent NFL QB. This could be a nice upside pick at WR83.

17th: Turbin: I debated a lot with this pick. I was going RB and the decision came down to Turbin, Herron, and Blue here. I sniffed Taliaferro too. Gore is such a solid 3 down back as one of the best blockers in the league, I just wasn’t sure what role Herron would have and IND may draft a stud RB. Blue’s value lies in the fact that Foster will get hurt, but I didn’t want to wait around for that. Turbin has found a niche at least on third down and the occasional series here and there. He will see the field each week and get touches on a run heavy team. Maybe some extra work this year, especially if they have a lead as Lynch has been taking and delivering a pounding. Lynch was dinged a little but played through it, so there is also some huge value here should Lynch miss time. I realize the fantasy players want the torch to be passed to Michael and I was drinking that Kool Aid for a while to and wanted to see it happen. But it just doesn’t look like we are there yet. As RB4 I got a guy who should be guaranteed to see the field on a run heavy team and he is also the receiving RB of choice in 2min/4min/3rd down.

18th: Saints DST: Of the 4 DST that were left, I went with the guys in the dome and in the NFC South.

19th: Matthews: Showed he could perform on the biggest stage requiring NE to put Revis on him. 6’5” and aggressive to the ball. Wilson will take some shots. Was targeting him in the 19th or 20th round as my last WR. Very little NFL experience except for the biggest game of the year where he may have been in the talk for MVP had SEA won. I used to be big on these big fast WR’s who could win jump balls; NFL is changing a little though. Graham will eat into those jump balls, but Matthews might have the goods to replace Kearse at WR2 and should at least move past Lockette, etc. as the WR3. Richardson probably won’t be ready to start the season. You would think they have to find a way to get him on the field. Got a feeling once training camp and preseason start, his ADP will rise. Could be a total bust, but I’m buyin right now at this price. I sniffed Andre Holmes and may have gone that direction had they not signed Crabtree. Also sniffed Wilson and he finished strong, but KC should pull the trigger on someone with more talent early in the draft.

20th: TBD

Overall: With one pick left, nothing too exciting here. I think I may have enough not to finish last most weeks (for a little while). If some things break right and some of my guys outperform their ADP I could hang around. Probably not enough pop to win it all at the end unless I get some serious breakouts. Took way too much risk at WR.

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Mettenberger, Zach TEN QB 11.06
Stafford, Matthew DET QB 5.06
Fitzpatrick, Ryan NYJ QB 20.11
Waited just a little too long to pick my 2nd QB. I think Mett starts but I'm less than confident in that or of him doing well if he does start. But frankly I like my 9th and 10th round picks enough that I wouldn't change this now. If Stafford misses games or just underperforms, I'll be in trouble. ETA: didn't really like the WR options I was looking at in round 20 so I figured I'd gamble with Fitzpatrick winning the job and being productive. Probably a wasted pick but not many round 20 picks do much anyway.
Anderson, C.J. DEN RB 2.11
Carey, Ka'Deem CHI RB 17.06
Coleman, Tevin FA RB ® 10.11
Forte, Matt CHI RB 1.06
Ridley, Stevan NYJ RB 12.11
I actually like this group. Understand if others wouldn't, and I'm unhappy about missing out on Ball. I probably picked Carey much earlier than needed but I didn't want to miss out on him too. Plan at one point was to double up on Broncos and Bears. I like Tevin Coleman almost as much as Gordon. Could be a huge payoff or not, as is always a risk with rookies.
Allen, Keenan SDC WR 3.06
Colston, Marques NOS WR 9.06
Cooper, Riley PHI WR 18.11
Floyd, Michael ARI WR 6.11
Wallace, Mike MIN WR 7.06
Wheaton, Markus PIT WR 14.11
The main problem with going RB/RB is your WRs will be weak. Still, I think this group is solid. Wallace and Colston will probably be on a lot of my teams if these values hold. Allen should be better this year, though the risk of losing Rivers is a concern. Floyd has some upside as does Wheaton. Cooper is not a good receiver but the opportunity is there and he can't be cut due to the cap hit if he were cut. Despite his poor play he was still an alright #4 WR with a handful of decent games.
Daniels, Owen DEN TE 8.11
Ertz, Zach PHI TE 4.11
Ertz could make it into the top 3-5 TEs this year IMO, Daniels is in a perfect spot for production.
Parkey, Cody PHI PK 13.06
Santos, Cairo KCC PK 16.11
Didn't realize I went heavy into Philly, but I guess I did. Two young kickers with jobs.
Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 15.06
Raiders, Oakland OAK Def 19.06
Both of these defenses should improve. In hindsight I would have taken the Titans D in round 18 and whatever WR fell to the 19th (if Cooper didn't, probably Jarius Wright which would have backed up Wallace).
Overall I'm probably slightly above average with significant risk at QB. This team will live and die with Stafford and the off-chance that Mett does well.

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Cleaner team version.

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79
1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21

18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

Before I break down my team, I'll address the final 3 selections:

1. David Johnson, Rook. A bit of a crapshoot at the tail end of the draft and the 2nd tier of rookie RBs, but I like what I read and see about the Northern Iowa RB. Good hands as a receiver, which is a plus for a rookie to get on the field - as long as he can pass block, which I believe he can. I also like to roll dice on smaller school RBs because if they put up numbers, they likely were the #1 option on their team (by far) and if defenses were keying on him and he still delivered, then I think he can transition better to the pro game than a big school RB who had big road graders and more options on offense to keep defenses honest. We'll see where he lands.

2. Albert Wilson, WR, KC. I like this pick because he came on late last year and was the most explosive WR by a mile for KC. Can he do it again? Maybe, maybe not - but he could be the DJax to complement Maclin for Any Reid - if only Alex Smith can get him the ball. As a WR7, getting a WR2 NFL starter is a good pick in my book.

3. Pierre Thomas, RB, FA. I LOVE this pick in Round 20. I don't even think he was picked at all in PDSL1, which I think is a mistake. RB79 for a veteran RB FA who has rumored ties to Baltimore and New England. While 30, Thomas has not even had 1,200 touches in his 8-year career. He has averaged over 4 YPC 6 out of 8 years, including 3 of the last 4. Plenty of catches (45 last year, averaged 50+ the last 4) and he is a smart player. Wherever he lands - and he will land somewhere - he will contribute in a big way.

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Cleaner team version.

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79
1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21
5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
Quarterbacks - Waited a little long to get QB1 and QB2 for the team, but overall I like the duo. A bit too mercurial for my taste, but in a 16 teamer you want (A) 2 sure starters, (B) big play potential and © offenses that favor scoring. I think I have all 3 here, even with uncertainty on health. Would have liked to have a more stable QB1 (like Eli, who went right before me) to pair with Bradford, who I really wanted as my QB2, but overall I'm content. I think this is an average to slightly above average group. Grade: B-
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79

I just talked about my last 2 RBs (will include again here) but I like my Top 3 as well. Foster should be a Top 10 RB as long as he stays healthy. Morris is slow and steady, and I think WASH will use him even more this year. Not much for PPR though, but Sproles is a solid RB3 that can contribute (and he will also pair a little with Bradford if they both have a big game).

David Johnson, Rook. A bit of a crapshoot at the tail end of the draft and the 2nd tier of rookie RBs, but I like what I read and see about the Northern Iowa RB. Good hands as a receiver, which is a plus for a rookie to get on the field - as long as he can pass block, which I believe he can. I also like to roll dice on smaller school RBs because if they put up numbers, they likely were the #1 option on their team (by far) and if defenses were keying on him and he still delivered, then I think he can transition better to the pro game than a big school RB who had big road graders and more options on offense to keep defenses honest. We'll see where he lands.

Pierre Thomas, RB, FA. I LOVE this pick in Round 20. I don't even think he was picked at all in PDSL1, which I think is a mistake. RB79 for a veteran RB FA who has rumored ties to Baltimore and New England. While 30, Thomas has not even had 1,200 touches in his 8-year career. He has averaged over 4 YPC 6 out of 8 years, including 3 of the last 4. Plenty of catches (45 last year, averaged 50+ the last 4) and he is a smart player. Wherever he lands - and he will land somewhere - he will contribute in a big way.

Overall, I like having 5 RBs with good PPR value for 4 of them, one Rookie with upside and lots of veteran value. Normally I'm not as strong at RB, but I think this is a pretty good group, especially for 16 teams. Grade B to B+.

1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

Antonio Brown is a stud WR1, hands down. Jordan Matthews is now a WR1 for Philly, and Bradford pairs well with him for upside (I like that). VJax is underrated here with QB issues and Mike Evans, but the veteran will get his. Eddie Royal and M. Wilson may look odd, but they represent Cutler's #2 and #3 WR, who will be 2 of the Top 5 targets he has (A.Jeffery, M. Bennett, Forte). They'll probably combine for 100 catches and 8-10 TDs, and that works for me as WR3BC. Cole Beasley is a solid slot guy who Romo is liking more and more. I mentioned A. Wilson earlier (included below).

Albert Wilson, WR, KC. I like this pick because he came on late last year and was the most explosive WR by a mile for KC. Can he do it again? Maybe, maybe not - but he could be the DJax to complement Maclin for Any Reid - if only Alex Smith can get him the ball. As a WR7, getting a WR2 NFL starter is a good pick in my book.

Overall I like this group as an above average group. Strong WR1, solid WR2, good WR3BC options. Seven WRs is a good thing when you take 2 from the same team. 3 WRs pair with my 2 QBs, so have solid upside.

Grade: B

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
Nothing flashy here at all, just two solid veterans who should get a good amount of work. I just hope that they last all season long and produce respectable numbers.
Grade: B-
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21

Two starting PKs for teams that have never shared a bye since 2002. A dome kicker. Good weather outside kicker. Check, check, check. Grade: B+

Two defenses (one above average) that have never shared a bye since 2002. A coach (Belichick) that loves to emphasize special teams and the return game and field position and forcing turnovers. Two games against the Jets. I like this pair. Grade: B

Overall: I like this team and don't see any major holes. How can this squad win it all? Both QBs and both TEs have to remain healthy, and A. Foster would help there as well. D. Johnson and/or P. Thomas finding good landing spots will help, but not mandatory. As long as QB and TE hold up, I like this team to still be in the mix for the Nov/Dec portion of the schedule.

Overall Grade: B.

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Brees, Drew NOS QB 459.50 6 4.02
Bridgewater, Teddy MIN QB 256.85 10 6.02
Not a bad pair, need Brees to have another big year. Grade: B
Asiata, Matt MIN RB 192.20 10 19.15
Cobb, David FA RB ® - - 12.02
McKinnon, Jerick MIN RB 94.30 10 8.02
Murray, DeMarco PHI RB 361.10 7 2.02
Richardson, Trent OAK RB 119.80 5 17.15
Sankey, Bishop TEN RB 100.20 9 7.15
D. Murray and needs some help. 6 picks was a good idea. I like Asiata as GL option. Grade: C+ (no clear RB2 or RB3 to count on)
Bowe, Dwayne CLE WR 135.40 4 10.02
Coates, Sammie FA WR ® - - 18.02
Green, A.J. CIN WR (P) 209.30 4 1.15
Jackson, DeSean WAS WR 209.60 10 3.15
Randle, Rueben NYG WR 182.80 8 11.15
Nick Toon
A little thin with 6, but I understand the need at RB. I like Randle, but we'll see how he factors in for the NYG. Toon and Coates are ?s. Who knows about Bowe and CLE. Grade: C+
Cameron, Jordan MIA TE 102.40 5 5.15
Davis, Vernon SFO TE 88.90 8 9.15
I like J.Cameron and wanted him myself. Nice pick. VD could be a very solid TE2 if he gets back to how he once was w/ Kaep. Grade: B/B-
Barth, Connor DEN PK 60.00 4 14.02
Suisham, Shaun PIT PK 132.00 12 13.15
49ers, San Francisco SFO Def 131.00 8 16.02
Bengals, Cincinnati CIN Def 104.00 4 15.15

Solid picks. B+

Overall I like it, needs some help at RB2/RB3 but every 16 team survivor squad will have a hole. Overall respectably solid. Needs WR3/4/5 to round out well. Grade B/B-.

Nice job.

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Stinkin Ref:

4.13 Tom Brady QB7 NE

6.13 Carson Palmer QB21 AZ

2.13 Jeremey Hill RB11 CIN

5.04 Todd Gurley RB24 FA

11.04 Reggie Bush RB48 SF

17.04 Robert Turbin RB61 SEA

3.04 Julian Edelman WR17 NE

7.04 Kevin White WR38 FA

8.13 Charles Johnson WR46 MIN

10.13 Justin Blackmon WR59 JAC

12.13 Kenny Britt WR68 STL

16.13 Cecil Shorts WR83 HOU

19.04 Chris Matthews WR95 SEA

1.04 Jimmy Graham TE2 SEA

9.04 Coby Fleener TE21 IND

13.04 Dan Bailey PK4 DAL

15.04 Josh Brown PK20 NYG

14.13 Kansas City Chiefs DST12

18.13 New Orleans Saints DST29

12th: Britt: They resigned him, he wants to be there, he showed he may have turned the corner as a professional and with Foles and improved QB play, we may see him drastically outperform his ADP. I would not be surprised to see him finish top 30. Quick had some pretty serious shoulder damage, and Bailey is nothing to write home about. Britt is locked in as a WR2 if not WR1 heading into next year; I’ll take that in the 12th while others are diving deeper down some other depth charts. Decent value as WR68.

13th: Bailey: May not score the most points but maybe the best kicker in the league. Guy is money. Losing Murray may lead to some stalls in the red zone. I love me some Bailey and went with him early and would have been okay going solo with him if I felt better about my team overall.

14th: Chiefs DST: I had planned on targeting KC shortly after all the top DST were off the board. Pretty solid unit that gets to the QB and has some talent coming back from injury that I think many forgot about. This team has the potential to do some damage on special teams as well with Thomas. Grind it out offense that finds a way to move the chains keeping the defense off the field and in low scoring games. Couple games last year including one of the DEN games where the other team only had the ball like twice in a half. Much of this doesn’t translate to fantasy points, but pressuring the QB with sacks, forcing fumbles, INT’s, and the return game do. I think this DST checks all those boxes.

15th: Brown: Took a gamble hoping DAL and NYG don’t share a bye week. Nothing special here, decided to add a second PK cause I may be on the cut line quite a bit with this team and might need those handful of points he scores more than Bailey some weeks.

16th: Shorts: As we move forward in these survivors and then later into the Anarchy’s, etc. this will be a situation I will be keeping an eye on. Shorts may not have a ton of redraft value as a redraft starter every week, but if he locks in as the WR2 in HOU he might be a nice play in best ball as a WR 4-5-6. AJ gone, HOU signs Shorts pretty quick, realize they brought in Washington too. We’ll see. He has shown he can make some plays and that was with JAC with some pretty average QB play so you have to think the arrow is pointing slightly up. I realize we are not totally sure what Mallet brings to the table yet, but I think he is a decent NFL QB. This could be a nice upside pick at WR83.

17th: Turbin: I debated a lot with this pick. I was going RB and the decision came down to Turbin, Herron, and Blue here. I sniffed Taliaferro too. Gore is such a solid 3 down back as one of the best blockers in the league, I just wasn’t sure what role Herron would have and IND may draft a stud RB. Blue’s value lies in the fact that Foster will get hurt, but I didn’t want to wait around for that. Turbin has found a niche at least on third down and the occasional series here and there. He will see the field each week and get touches on a run heavy team. Maybe some extra work this year, especially if they have a lead as Lynch has been taking and delivering a pounding. Lynch was dinged a little but played through it, so there is also some huge value here should Lynch miss time. I realize the fantasy players want the torch to be passed to Michael and I was drinking that Kool Aid for a while to and wanted to see it happen. But it just doesn’t look like we are there yet. As RB4 I got a guy who should be guaranteed to see the field on a run heavy team and he is also the receiving RB of choice in 2min/4min/3rd down.

18th: Saints DST: Of the 4 DST that were left, I went with the guys in the dome and in the NFC South.

19th: Matthews: Showed he could perform on the biggest stage requiring NE to put Revis on him. 6’5” and aggressive to the ball. Wilson will take some shots. Was targeting him in the 19th or 20th round as my last WR. Very little NFL experience except for the biggest game of the year where he may have been in the talk for MVP had SEA won. I used to be big on these big fast WR’s who could win jump balls; NFL is changing a little though. Graham will eat into those jump balls, but Matthews might have the goods to replace Kearse at WR2 and should at least move past Lockette, etc. as the WR3. Richardson probably won’t be ready to start the season. You would think they have to find a way to get him on the field. Got a feeling once training camp and preseason start, his ADP will rise. Could be a total bust, but I’m buyin right now at this price. I sniffed Andre Holmes and may have gone that direction had they not signed Crabtree. Also sniffed Wilson and he finished strong, but KC should pull the trigger on someone with more talent early in the draft.

20th: TBD

Overall: With one pick left, nothing too exciting here. I think I may have enough not to finish last most weeks (for a little while). If some things break right and some of my guys outperform their ADP I could hang around. Probably not enough pop to win it all at the end unless I get some serious breakouts. Took way too much risk at WR.

First off, I appreciate all the commentary - love that part of these drafts.

QB - Brady doesn't put up the big numbers he once did, but who knows how NE will play from year to year. I think he's a solid QB1. C. Palmer solid QB2. Grade: B/B+.

RB - Four is a bit thin with not much to expect from Turbin. R. Bush getting hurt again will hurt (not if, but when). I still like him though, but a 5th RB might have been a good idea. Hill/Gurley is where you have to count on. Grade: C+

WR - Won't compound the problem, you identified that you took too much risk here, which I agree. I don't see clear WR1, and WR2/WR3 are ?s as a result. Grade: C-/D+.

TE - Very strong. Grade: A

PK/D - Solid, Grade: B+

Overall the WR (and possibly RB depth) will be your downfall. I think you should have given a little on QB2 and TE2 strength to fortify the WR and RB positions. Not sure who to change those picks to, but that's my first pass at how to change the picks to help the team. WR2 in Rd 7 was a bit aggressive, should have been more conservative to solidify the team, especially if you were counting on riskier WR4/5/6/7 choices.

Interested in a 20/20 hindsight look at what you'd have changed to improve WR.

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Mettenberger, Zach TEN QB 11.06
Stafford, Matthew DET QB 5.06
Fitzpatrick, Ryan NYJ QB 20.11

Waited just a little too long to pick my 2nd QB. I think Mett starts but I'm less than confident in that or of him doing well if he does start. But frankly I like my 9th and 10th round picks enough that I wouldn't change this now. If Stafford misses games or just underperforms, I'll be in trouble. ETA: didn't really like the WR options I was looking at in round 20 so I figured I'd gamble with Fitzpatrick winning the job and being productive. Probably a wasted pick but not many round 20 picks do much anyway.

I hope you're wrong about Rd 20 picks, as I liked mine in PThomas. But to your team - Stafford is a solid QB1 and Z.Mett could be a solid QB2 if the Titans don't get cute in the draft. Grade: B, for now.
Anderson, C.J. DEN RB 2.11
Carey, Ka'Deem CHI RB 17.06
Coleman, Tevin FA RB ® 10.11
Forte, Matt CHI RB 1.06
Ridley, Stevan NYJ RB 12.11
I actually like this group. Understand if others wouldn't, and I'm unhappy about missing out on Ball. I probably picked Carey much earlier than needed but I didn't want to miss out on him too. Plan at one point was to double up on Broncos and Bears. I like Tevin Coleman almost as much as Gordon. Could be a huge payoff or not, as is always a risk with rookies.
I like this group too. 5 picks sounds about right. If CJ remains the #1 in Denver and you have to like Forte as your #1 (interesting call to handcuff, and I like K Carey). Solid group. B+
Allen, Keenan SDC WR 3.06
Colston, Marques NOS WR 9.06
Cooper, Riley PHI WR 18.11
Floyd, Michael ARI WR 6.11
Wallace, Mike MIN WR 7.06
Wheaton, Markus PIT WR 14.11
The main problem with going RB/RB is your WRs will be weak. Still, I think this group is solid. Wallace and Colston will probably be on a lot of my teams if these values hold. Allen should be better this year, though the risk of losing Rivers is a concern. Floyd has some upside as does Wheaton. Cooper is not a good receiver but the opportunity is there and he can't be cut due to the cap hit if he were cut. Despite his poor play he was still an alright #4 WR with a handful of decent games.
Not a fan of R. Cooper at all. Probably worst WR2 in the league, and that's saying something. Wallace good upside, and I like solid veterans like Colston. Grade B/B+ for a solid group with upside and not a ton of risk.
Daniels, Owen DEN TE 8.11
Ertz, Zach PHI TE 4.11
Ertz could make it into the top 3-5 TEs this year IMO, Daniels is in a perfect spot for production.
Ertz is riskier than you think as Chip Kelly just doesn't use him as much as he should. OD is also a risky pick, but you have to like a P. Manning TE. Grade: B/B-.
Parkey, Cody PHI PK 13.06
Santos, Cairo KCC PK 16.11
Didn't realize I went heavy into Philly, but I guess I did. Two young kickers with jobs.
Heavy on Philly, yes, that could be an issue. As a standalone group - solid. B+
Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 15.06
Raiders, Oakland OAK Def 19.06
Both of these defenses should improve. In hindsight I would have taken the Titans D in round 18 and whatever WR fell to the 19th (if Cooper didn't, probably Jarius Wright which would have backed up Wallace).

Not great defenses at all. Not many sacks either. Grade C+

Overall I'm probably slightly above average with significant risk at QB. This team will live and die with Stafford and the off-chance that Mett does well.

You need to catch a break when the Eagles are on a bye and also if they have a bad week. That could be a problem, but 1 WR, 1 TE and 1 K won't kill you.

Defenses have to work out OK as well.

This team feels about in the middle of the pack, so I agree with the C+ or even a B- grade.

What would you change?

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Stinkin Ref:

4.13 Tom Brady QB7 NE

6.13 Carson Palmer QB21 AZ

2.13 Jeremey Hill RB11 CIN

5.04 Todd Gurley RB24 FA

11.04 Reggie Bush RB48 SF

17.04 Robert Turbin RB61 SEA

20.13 D'Anthony Thomas RB KC

3.04 Julian Edelman WR17 NE

7.04 Kevin White WR38 FA

8.13 Charles Johnson WR46 MIN

10.13 Justin Blackmon WR59 JAC

12.13 Kenny Britt WR68 STL

16.13 Cecil Shorts WR83 HOU

19.04 Chris Matthews WR95 SEA

1.04 Jimmy Graham TE2 SEA

9.04 Coby Fleener TE21 IND

13.04 Dan Bailey PK4 DAL

15.04 Josh Brown PK20 NYG

14.13 Kansas City Chiefs DST12

18.13 New Orleans Saints DST29

First off, I appreciate all the commentary - love that part of these drafts.

QB - Brady doesn't put up the big numbers he once did, but who knows how NE will play from year to year. I think he's a solid QB1. C. Palmer solid QB2. Grade: B/B+.

RB - Four is a bit thin with not much to expect from Turbin. R. Bush getting hurt again will hurt (not if, but when). I still like him though, but a 5th RB might have been a good idea. Hill/Gurley is where you have to count on. Grade: C+

WR - Won't compound the problem, you identified that you took too much risk here, which I agree. I don't see clear WR1, and WR2/WR3 are ?s as a result. Grade: C-/D+.

TE - Very strong. Grade: A

PK/D - Solid, Grade: B+

Overall the WR (and possibly RB depth) will be your downfall. I think you should have given a little on QB2 and TE2 strength to fortify the WR and RB positions. Not sure who to change those picks to, but that's my first pass at how to change the picks to help the team. WR2 in Rd 7 was a bit aggressive, should have been more conservative to solidify the team, especially if you were counting on riskier WR4/5/6/7 choices.

Interested in a 20/20 hindsight look at what you'd have changed to improve WR.

20.13 D'Anthony Thomas RB KC

Was pretty locked in to taking RB5 in this round although seeing a DST (WAS) still available was a little tempting. At RB5 you generally aren't going to find a bellcow or even a set in stone RB2 for most teams. So what I was looking for here is a guy who might be able to score for me on limied touches which really means a goal line guy or a guy that can house it. I went with the latter. Entering the season healthy I think he will be more involved in the game plan. He is a threat to score every time he has the ball. Kind of used more as a WR than a RB so I can see his receptions increasing. He did average over 8 yards a carry when handed the ball. Looking for the long TD to come when my RB's need it. I considered Damien Williams here as he looks really promising but just a little gun shy of MIA interest in bringing in a guy (they sniffed a few) or drafting a stud (heard they might in the first round) so I went with a guy who will have a defined role even if somewhat small. Another reason I almost went Williams is that Thomas is on KC and they are one of my DST. Sometimes it's nice to have "all hands on deck" at other positions when you are riding solo at a position on a given week.

on to Jeff's comments above (thanks for the feedback)

can live with the grade at QB....I'll drop the ol' I'll take mine over anybody else's line here....cept maybe ninja....Palmer is the perfect QB2 in these IMO especially when you figure in the price at QB21 ....he was on pace to be top 10 last year prior to his injury and in that offense I wouldn't be surprised to see him score for me more than Brady....thinking I'm sitting on an 89.6 percent which would round me up to an A-..... ;)

RB...added a 5th with some pop for depth....Gurley being the man from day one is obviously crucial and what I am banking on.....I rarely assume injuries (ecxcept for Arian Foster) so assuming full health for Bush and significant playing time...Turbin was a thought out pick which was influnced by my personal feelings that Lynch will receive less of a workload and Turbin should benefit....I could be completely wrong and maybe SEA runs him into the ground again, but they signed him to a hefty extension so I think they may rest him some as he got a litle dinged last year and it's not like Turbin/Michael are chop liver.....Turbin should be the guy on 3rd down, etc....

WR...when you are at the top of the draft and you don't go WR in the first, you probably aren't going to have many guys leading you WR core that look like solid WR1 material....they are all gone by the time you pick in round 2 in a 16 teamer.....and then when I felt I needed to go RB in round 2 it gets worse...looking at the WR options in late 2nd early 3rd nothing screamed "solid WR1"...so it is what it is.....but the funny thing is when you look at my group one could argue that I have 5 WR's that are the WR1's on their respective teams.....(assuming White goes to a team where he is obviously the best option)....so I'll take this group with the minimal investment that it cost me and that was the game plan going in when I saw my draft slot (which I hated)....I knew I could get guys like Blackmon/Britt later and I was willing to roll the dice that my ROI would pay off and allow me to grab things like a pretty solid QB2 and TE2....two positions where it is nice to know if something happens to your lead guy your QB2 or TE2 might actually allow you to keep your head above water and keep advancing instead of your season being toast....

if I was truly all in on Graham....I could have maybe passed on Fleener in the 9th....and maybe snagged Colston or something.....but that all goes back to the fact that I am pot committed (as I have been in some of the previous drafts) to the idea that Blackmon will be back and when he is, both he and Britt will seriously outperform WR59 and 68 and guys like Colston....I feel somewhat the same about Shorts and Matthews.....with potentially 5 WR1's on their teams, we (me included) may be being a little to hard on this group....but that is probably justified right now.....but when/if White starts tearing it up and Blackmon gets reinstated, this group starts looking better....and maybe becomes a strength instead of a D+....

I give a lot (probably too much) commentary.... not that anybody really cares or reads them, but it seems to be why we even do these now.....for me it just helps to get the thought process out there a little to see if I am out of my ####### mind on some things.....

good luck.. :banned:

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Mettenberger, Zach TEN QB 11.06
Stafford, Matthew DET QB 5.06
Fitzpatrick, Ryan NYJ QB 20.11

Waited just a little too long to pick my 2nd QB. I think Mett starts but I'm less than confident in that or of him doing well if he does start. But frankly I like my 9th and 10th round picks enough that I wouldn't change this now. If Stafford misses games or just underperforms, I'll be in trouble. ETA: didn't really like the WR options I was looking at in round 20 so I figured I'd gamble with Fitzpatrick winning the job and being productive. Probably a wasted pick but not many round 20 picks do much anyway.

I hope you're wrong about Rd 20 picks, as I liked mine in PThomas. But to your team - Stafford is a solid QB1 and Z.Mett could be a solid QB2 if the Titans don't get cute in the draft. Grade: B, for now.
Anderson, C.J. DEN RB 2.11
Carey, Ka'Deem CHI RB 17.06
Coleman, Tevin FA RB ® 10.11
Forte, Matt CHI RB 1.06
Ridley, Stevan NYJ RB 12.11
I actually like this group. Understand if others wouldn't, and I'm unhappy about missing out on Ball. I probably picked Carey much earlier than needed but I didn't want to miss out on him too. Plan at one point was to double up on Broncos and Bears. I like Tevin Coleman almost as much as Gordon. Could be a huge payoff or not, as is always a risk with rookies.
I like this group too. 5 picks sounds about right. If CJ remains the #1 in Denver and you have to like Forte as your #1 (interesting call to handcuff, and I like K Carey). Solid group. B+
Allen, Keenan SDC WR 3.06
Colston, Marques NOS WR 9.06
Cooper, Riley PHI WR 18.11
Floyd, Michael ARI WR 6.11
Wallace, Mike MIN WR 7.06
Wheaton, Markus PIT WR 14.11
The main problem with going RB/RB is your WRs will be weak. Still, I think this group is solid. Wallace and Colston will probably be on a lot of my teams if these values hold. Allen should be better this year, though the risk of losing Rivers is a concern. Floyd has some upside as does Wheaton. Cooper is not a good receiver but the opportunity is there and he can't be cut due to the cap hit if he were cut. Despite his poor play he was still an alright #4 WR with a handful of decent games.
Not a fan of R. Cooper at all. Probably worst WR2 in the league, and that's saying something. Wallace good upside, and I like solid veterans like Colston. Grade B/B+ for a solid group with upside and not a ton of risk.
Daniels, Owen DEN TE 8.11
Ertz, Zach PHI TE 4.11
Ertz could make it into the top 3-5 TEs this year IMO, Daniels is in a perfect spot for production.
Ertz is riskier than you think as Chip Kelly just doesn't use him as much as he should. OD is also a risky pick, but you have to like a P. Manning TE. Grade: B/B-.
Parkey, Cody PHI PK 13.06
Santos, Cairo KCC PK 16.11
Didn't realize I went heavy into Philly, but I guess I did. Two young kickers with jobs.
Heavy on Philly, yes, that could be an issue. As a standalone group - solid. B+
Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 15.06
Raiders, Oakland OAK Def 19.06
Both of these defenses should improve. In hindsight I would have taken the Titans D in round 18 and whatever WR fell to the 19th (if Cooper didn't, probably Jarius Wright which would have backed up Wallace).

Not great defenses at all. Not many sacks either. Grade C+

Overall I'm probably slightly above average with significant risk at QB. This team will live and die with Stafford and the off-chance that Mett does well.

You need to catch a break when the Eagles are on a bye and also if they have a bad week. That could be a problem, but 1 WR, 1 TE and 1 K won't kill you.

Defenses have to work out OK as well.

This team feels about in the middle of the pack, so I agree with the C+ or even a B- grade.

What would you change?

Not much really. Nothing strikes me as a "have to change" but a few possibilities:

Maybe - K Benjamin over CJ Anderson, followed by Hyde over Allen.

Probably - Ben over Ertz, followed by Witten over Stafford

Maybe - Ball over Mettenberger, take Manuel in the 15th

Don't really agree with the need to catch a break when Philly is on a bye. Ertz/Daniels could be a toss up most weeks and Cooper is my 6th WR. Santos will do fine many weeks. None of my stars are Eagles. If anything, the Daniels/Anderson bye week could hurt. But I usually like having a RB/WR or RB/TE combo.

As to the round 20 comment, I was all set to pre-select Kerley or Janis but then I thought as to whether they would ever score for me and figured probably not.

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.....but that all goes back to the fact that I am pot committed (as I have been in some of the previous drafts) to the idea that Blackmon will be back and when he is, both he and Britt will seriously outperform WR59 and 68 and guys like Colston....

:boxing: seriously disagree here. If Blackmon is back, he'll have a few big games. Not a fan of Britt. Colston is going to be the top receiver in NO in PPR. Probably not as many big days as Cooks, but he'll be the savvy veteran security blanket with Graham gone.

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.....but that all goes back to the fact that I am pot committed (as I have been in some of the previous drafts) to the idea that Blackmon will be back and when he is, both he and Britt will seriously outperform WR59 and 68 and guys like Colston....

:boxing: seriously disagree here. If Blackmon is back, he'll have a few big games. Not a fan of Britt. Colston is going to be the top receiver in NO in PPR. Probably not as many big days as Cooks, but he'll be the savvy veteran security blanket with Graham gone.

fair enough....

Britt finished WR54 last year with #### at QB.....16 points away from WR48 which is a starter in this league.....I got him at WR68...and technically with bye weeks, etc....we go a little deeper than 48 throughout the season....I believe with last season under his belt and Foles in town a WR3 (top48) in this league is his floor......if Blackmon plays, I would think WR2 (top 32) is not out of the question....would that really surprise anybody?....if at the end of the year you saw him finsish as WR28 or something....?....not me

Colston....he finsihsed as a WR3 last year.....I guess that could improve....or not.... and maybe if they sign Jennings they can have two of those savvy vets security blanket dudes.....but at that point in the draft I preferred adding a strong TE2 in Fleener to go with Blackmon/Britt....than an aging Colston and whatever crap TE2 I would have gotten later..... :boxing::banned:

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Write me up Jeff.

normally I got stud RB/STUD QB load up on WR/TE depth and ignore RB2. this team had a different approach with a start of Dez-Evans-Kelce-Gore-QB-QB

QB - Eli, D.Carr

RB - Frank Gore. Devonta Freeman, Montee Ball. Boom Herron, Travaris Cadet

WR - Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, Donte Moncrief, Terrance Williams, Cordarrelle Patterson, Jermaine Kearse, Marlon Brown

TE - Travis Kelce, Michael Ryvera

K - hauskcha, Novak

D - Carolina, Pittsburgh

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.....but that all goes back to the fact that I am pot committed (as I have been in some of the previous drafts) to the idea that Blackmon will be back and when he is, both he and Britt will seriously outperform WR59 and 68 and guys like Colston....

:boxing: seriously disagree here. If Blackmon is back, he'll have a few big games. Not a fan of Britt. Colston is going to be the top receiver in NO in PPR. Probably not as many big days as Cooks, but he'll be the savvy veteran security blanket with Graham gone.

fair enough....

Britt finished WR54 last year with #### at QB.....16 points away from WR48 which is a starter in this league.....I got him at WR68...and technically with bye weeks, etc....we go a little deeper than 48 throughout the season....I believe with last season under his belt and Foles in town a WR3 (top48) in this league is his floor......if Blackmon plays, I would think WR2 (top 32) is not out of the question....would that really surprise anybody?....if at the end of the year you saw him finsish as WR28 or something....?....not me

Colston....he finsihsed as a WR3 last year.....I guess that could improve....or not.... and maybe if they sign Jennings they can have two of those savvy vets security blanket dudes.....but at that point in the draft I preferred adding a strong TE2 in Fleener to go with Blackmon/Britt....than an aging Colston and whatever crap TE2 I would have gotten later..... :boxing::banned:

Completely understood. Agree with most of what you're saying.

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QB6 - Big Ben

QB11 - Rivers

I typically wait a round later, preferring two mid-level QBs (last year my favorite combo was Tannehill/Palmer) but my plans got screwed up when Spiller unexpectedly went two picks before my 4th round selection. Seeing no RB/WR/TE I considered as value there, I decided to just get a jump on QBs, knowing the QB run was just about to start and most position players would slip.

RB2 - Charles

RB27 - Martin

RB34 - Riddick

RB40 - Knile Davis

RB78 - Rainey

Playing it safe at RB by handcuffing KC and TB running backs with a PPR specialist in Riddick who should be taking over a larger role with the departure of Bush. Injuries at RB can be so debilitating in this format, I decided to play not to lose at this position rather than angling for the home run.

WR13 - Benjamin

WR18 - Andre Johnson

WR34 - Decker

WR61 - Quick

WR70 - Stevie

WR96 - Miles Austin

I think AJ and Decker were steals. AJ + Luck = double digit TDs. Decker was good while injured and in a bad offense. Should be quite improved while healthy on Chan Gailey's offense. Quick was the WR1 before injury so I really like him, but to be safe I wouldn't have minded grabbing Britt later. It's ok because I really wanted Stevie with Rivers. He had three 1000 yard season with Fitzpatrick so I am interested to see him with a good QB. If Rivers gets traded then that will torpedo my brilliant plan. Miles Austin was a nice flyer. He's not old yet and has shown a lot of ability when healthy. Hopefully he finally figured out how to stay healthy last year in Cleveland.

TE Josh HIll

TE Virgin Green

TE Dennis Pitta

Hodge podge group. Need Hill to at least be serviceable. Don't need a breakout with the rest of my team being solid, but a breakout wouldn't hurt. Green's upside will be tempered with the addition of the oft-injured Owen Daniels, but that means more opportunity for Pitta in Baltimore due to Daniels' departure... if his hip doesn't pop out of socket again.

K Zuerlein

K Nugent

Just trying to nab two guys who won't lose their jobs.

D TB

D Jax

Taking a defense early is for suckers. Lovie Smith should turn around TB's D in his second year. Jax wasn't actually too bad in this format last year and is a young unit. Should get better.

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QB6 - Big Ben

QB11 - Rivers

I typically wait a round later, preferring two mid-level QBs (last year my favorite combo was Tannehill/Palmer) but my plans got screwed up when Spiller unexpectedly went two picks before my 4th round selection. Seeing no RB/WR/TE I considered as value there, I decided to just get a jump on QBs, knowing the QB run was just about to start and most position players would slip.

RB2 - Charles

RB27 - Martin

RB34 - Riddick

RB40 - Knile Davis

RB78 - Rainey

Playing it safe at RB by handcuffing KC and TB running backs with a PPR specialist in Riddick who should be taking over a larger role with the departure of Bush. Injuries at RB can be so debilitating in this format, I decided to play not to lose at this position rather than angling for the home run.

WR13 - Benjamin

WR18 - Andre Johnson

WR34 - Decker

WR61 - Quick

WR70 - Stevie

WR96 - Miles Austin

I think AJ and Decker were steals. AJ + Luck = double digit TDs. Decker was good while injured and in a bad offense. Should be quite improved while healthy on Chan Gailey's offense. Quick was the WR1 before injury so I really like him, but to be safe I wouldn't have minded grabbing Britt later. It's ok because I really wanted Stevie with Rivers. He had three 1000 yard season with Fitzpatrick so I am interested to see him with a good QB. If Rivers gets traded then that will torpedo my brilliant plan. Miles Austin was a nice flyer. He's not old yet and has shown a lot of ability when healthy. Hopefully he finally figured out how to stay healthy last year in Cleveland.

TE Josh HIll

TE Virgin Green

TE Dennis Pitta

Hodge podge group. Need Hill to at least be serviceable. Don't need a breakout with the rest of my team being solid, but a breakout wouldn't hurt. Green's upside will be tempered with the addition of the oft-injured Owen Daniels, but that means more opportunity for Pitta in Baltimore due to Daniels' departure... if his hip doesn't pop out of socket again.

K Zuerlein

K Nugent

Just trying to nab two guys who won't lose their jobs.

D TB

D Jax

Taking a defense early is for suckers. Lovie Smith should turn around TB's D in his second year. Jax wasn't actually too bad in this format last year and is a young unit. Should get better.

solid QB's...

you seem to have some faith in the TB running game....I might be missing out on something there....you may not even have the starter let alone a handcuff situation.....may be under estimating Sims's role....some talk about Martin available for trade and maybe even cut....could be another MJD here soon....Sims seems to be the guy on 3rd down and at least spelling/splitting series....not sure where Rainey fits in at the moment and that might have been a wated pick....luckily you have two guys in Davis/Riddick who actually offer some stand alone value....like those picks a lot....

AJ as WR18 seems about right, for that to be a steal he'd have to have a pretty big year....Decker seems about right as well with Marshall in town and the current QB situation so steal might not be the word I would use to describe those two picks....I do like those as a decent top 3 though....after that it gets a little shaky with Quick coming off injury and the last two picks may net you very little production.....

in this format at some point I think we all have to give the TE position the credit it deserves and I think you may have got caught a little on the back side of some mini runs by slow playing it there....Hill could maybe save your bacon if he breaks out, but you could be in serious trouble....Pitta may not even play and while Green will see the field because of his blocking, Daniels (and now Casey) will be in the receiving mix there....and a 12th on Green seems really steep....

I like some of what you did here, but the early QB double dip at the 4-5 turn, the questions about Sims in TB, and the slow play at TE could change things a little.....not sure what you could have gotten later at QB had you passed on Rivers.....but there were some serviceable guys available.....AJ and Decker may really need to be those steals you were talking about.....

good luck..... :banned:

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Write me up Jeff.

normally I got stud RB/STUD QB load up on WR/TE depth and ignore RB2. this team had a different approach with a start of Dez-Evans-Kelce-Gore-QB-QB

QB - Eli, D.Carr

RB - Frank Gore. Devonta Freeman, Montee Ball. Boom Herron, Travaris Cadet

WR - Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, Donte Moncrief, Terrance Williams, Cordarrelle Patterson, Jermaine Kearse, Marlon Brown

TE - Travis Kelce, Michael Ryvera

K - hauskcha, Novak

D - Carolina, Pittsburgh

taking Gore in the 4th was a pretty pivotal pick for you in terms of your QB situation....as 8 QB's went between that pick and your Eli pick in the 5th....although while it may have seemed like settling for Eli on the tail end of a run, the Gore pick was almost a must add in the 4th, as the RB's were thinning out and you didn't have one on board yet...was kind of glad to see you take Carr over Palmer as your QB2...

you should be very solid at WR and I think the Williams pick may actually pay off for you.....TE should be solid too especially if Rivera sees some targets...

QB and RB seem a little questionable....Eli and Carr could ham and egg you for most weeks.....RB seems more of a concern if ATL brings somebody in....Ball could see little action....Herron meh/splits the difference unless Gore gets hurt.....ATL situation will be one that could make or break RB2, but as you mentioned RB2 is often ignored/crapshoot for many....good luck

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Write me up Jeff.

normally I got stud RB/STUD QB load up on WR/TE depth and ignore RB2. this team had a different approach with a start of Dez-Evans-Kelce-Gore-QB-QB

QB - Eli, D.Carr

Like Eli, Not a fan of Carr. Two starters though, so B.

RB - Frank Gore. Devonta Freeman, Montee Ball. Boom Herron, Travaris Cadet

Gore = old, but like the spot in Indy. Handcuff w/ Boom. Lots of risk on the rest. Don't like it. C-/D+

WR - Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, Donte Moncrief, Terrance Williams, Cordarrelle Patterson, Jermaine Kearse, Marlon Brown

Strong top to bottom, although MBrown could be a waste as BAL should get new blood there. CPat could be riding pine too, but Top 2 are solid, TWill and Moncrief are WR3BC and Kearse might help. B+

TE - Travis Kelce, Michael Ryvera

Not sure if Ryvera stays the starter (although he should) as OAK was sniffing at FAs. I really like Kelce, but KC did improve WRs. B+ if Ryvera is starter (or A-), but much risk if Ryvera isn't the starter. (Drop to C-)

K - hauskcha, Novak

Solid / strong. B+/A-

D - Carolina, Pittsburgh

PITT not a great D any more, but CAR usually solid. B.

Solid effort. Need some help / a lot of help at RB to get deep.

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Taken a while to get to this...baby on the way and tons of prep work going on.

Overall fairly pleased with this team, but just missed a few players that I wanted by a pick or two.

5.03 Ryan

7.03 Winston

Feel pretty good about Ryan as the primary starter here and tends to put up some big games. Wanted Palmer in the 6th and he went a pick before me and then got greedy that Foles would drop around the turn to me in the 7th. Did not happen. Taking my chances on Winston and hope that he can come out strong. Likely should have taken a 3rd QB as protection but most were nothing more than flyers after the 8th round.

2.14 Lamar Miller

4.14 Joique Bell

10.14 Denard Robinson

11.03 Rashad Jennings

18.14 Jeremy Langford

Not very sexy but a decent core of RBs who should have some degree of steady production with a few really big games. Robinson and Jennings are health concerns and not certainties to have primary roles on their teams, but put up some huge games here and there. Late flyer on a fast rookie.

1.03 Odell Beckham

3.03 Brandin Cooks

8.14 Steve Smith

12.14 Josh Huff

14.14 Breshard Perriman

19.03 Paul Richardson

Likely reached for Odell, but really don't think I'm going to see him on many of my teams this year as I doubt that I'd consistently buy him early in the first round. Wanted to have some him on one of my teams though. Strongly considered top tier RB instead. Cooks should have big role in NO offense even if they scale back this year on the passing game. Steve Smith should provide a steady floor most weeks with some possible big weeks. Huff could really have a nice role in the Philly offense. Perriman is a rookie flyer...moving up boards recently. Hope he falls in a good spot and has better hands than some of the reports state. Richardson was my late round brain fart. Was running around get stuff for the nursery and totally forget about the blown ACL last year. Not expecting much here, but at least it is only a 19th round pick invested.

6.14 Charles Clay

9.03 Dwayne Allen

16.14 Maxx Williams

Figure this should be a decent group. Hoping the Bills are going to get Clay involved give the dough they gave him. Allen should be getting healthy after a rough year last year and Williams is the top TE out there this year. Hope he falls to a good spot.

13.03 Justin Tucker

17.03 Sebastian Janikowski

Thought a K run might come in the 13/14 rounds so jumped on Tucker early. Janikowski should have secure spot at least for a late round pick up.

15.03 Baltimore Ravens

20.14 Washington Redskins

Ravens can have some big game, particularly at home. Redskins are meh...last D taken just glad they made to me in the last round to have a backup. Was concerned that someone might scoop them up before it got to me.

Overall, not a bad team...not sure if is a winner unless some of the rookies that I have spread through the team have an immediate impact though...particularly Winston.

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Stinkin Ref:

4.13 Tom Brady QB7 NE

6.13 Carson Palmer QB21 AZ

2.13 Jeremey Hill RB11 CIN

5.04 Todd Gurley RB24 FA

11.04 Reggie Bush RB48 SF

17.04 Robert Turbin RB61 SEA

3.04 Julian Edelman WR17 NE

7.04 Kevin White WR38 FA

8.13 Charles Johnson WR46 MIN

10.13 Justin Blackmon WR59 JAC

12.13 Kenny Britt WR68 STL

16.13 Cecil Shorts WR83 HOU

19.04 Chris Matthews WR95 SEA

1.04 Jimmy Graham TE2 SEA

9.04 Coby Fleener TE21 IND

13.04 Dan Bailey PK4 DAL

15.04 Josh Brown PK20 NYG

14.13 Kansas City Chiefs DST12

18.13 New Orleans Saints DST29

12th: Britt: They resigned him, he wants to be there, he showed he may have turned the corner as a professional and with Foles and improved QB play, we may see him drastically outperform his ADP. I would not be surprised to see him finish top 30. Quick had some pretty serious shoulder damage, and Bailey is nothing to write home about. Britt is locked in as a WR2 if not WR1 heading into next year; I’ll take that in the 12th while others are diving deeper down some other depth charts. Decent value as WR68.

13th: Bailey: May not score the most points but maybe the best kicker in the league. Guy is money. Losing Murray may lead to some stalls in the red zone. I love me some Bailey and went with him early and would have been okay going solo with him if I felt better about my team overall.

14th: Chiefs DST: I had planned on targeting KC shortly after all the top DST were off the board. Pretty solid unit that gets to the QB and has some talent coming back from injury that I think many forgot about. This team has the potential to do some damage on special teams as well with Thomas. Grind it out offense that finds a way to move the chains keeping the defense off the field and in low scoring games. Couple games last year including one of the DEN games where the other team only had the ball like twice in a half. Much of this doesn’t translate to fantasy points, but pressuring the QB with sacks, forcing fumbles, INT’s, and the return game do. I think this DST checks all those boxes.

15th: Brown: Took a gamble hoping DAL and NYG don’t share a bye week. Nothing special here, decided to add a second PK cause I may be on the cut line quite a bit with this team and might need those handful of points he scores more than Bailey some weeks.

16th: Shorts: As we move forward in these survivors and then later into the Anarchy’s, etc. this will be a situation I will be keeping an eye on. Shorts may not have a ton of redraft value as a redraft starter every week, but if he locks in as the WR2 in HOU he might be a nice play in best ball as a WR 4-5-6. AJ gone, HOU signs Shorts pretty quick, realize they brought in Washington too. We’ll see. He has shown he can make some plays and that was with JAC with some pretty average QB play so you have to think the arrow is pointing slightly up. I realize we are not totally sure what Mallet brings to the table yet, but I think he is a decent NFL QB. This could be a nice upside pick at WR83.

17th: Turbin: I debated a lot with this pick. I was going RB and the decision came down to Turbin, Herron, and Blue here. I sniffed Taliaferro too. Gore is such a solid 3 down back as one of the best blockers in the league, I just wasn’t sure what role Herron would have and IND may draft a stud RB. Blue’s value lies in the fact that Foster will get hurt, but I didn’t want to wait around for that. Turbin has found a niche at least on third down and the occasional series here and there. He will see the field each week and get touches on a run heavy team. Maybe some extra work this year, especially if they have a lead as Lynch has been taking and delivering a pounding. Lynch was dinged a little but played through it, so there is also some huge value here should Lynch miss time. I realize the fantasy players want the torch to be passed to Michael and I was drinking that Kool Aid for a while to and wanted to see it happen. But it just doesn’t look like we are there yet. As RB4 I got a guy who should be guaranteed to see the field on a run heavy team and he is also the receiving RB of choice in 2min/4min/3rd down.

18th: Saints DST: Of the 4 DST that were left, I went with the guys in the dome and in the NFC South.

19th: Matthews: Showed he could perform on the biggest stage requiring NE to put Revis on him. 6’5” and aggressive to the ball. Wilson will take some shots. Was targeting him in the 19th or 20th round as my last WR. Very little NFL experience except for the biggest game of the year where he may have been in the talk for MVP had SEA won. I used to be big on these big fast WR’s who could win jump balls; NFL is changing a little though. Graham will eat into those jump balls, but Matthews might have the goods to replace Kearse at WR2 and should at least move past Lockette, etc. as the WR3. Richardson probably won’t be ready to start the season. You would think they have to find a way to get him on the field. Got a feeling once training camp and preseason start, his ADP will rise. Could be a total bust, but I’m buyin right now at this price. I sniffed Andre Holmes and may have gone that direction had they not signed Crabtree. Also sniffed Wilson and he finished strong, but KC should pull the trigger on someone with more talent early in the draft.

20th: TBD

Overall: With one pick left, nothing too exciting here. I think I may have enough not to finish last most weeks (for a little while). If some things break right and some of my guys outperform their ADP I could hang around. Probably not enough pop to win it all at the end unless I get some serious breakouts. Took way too much risk at WR.

I passed on Brady for Big Ben, fearing age starting to kick in for Brady, but that could be something I regret in hindsight. Palmer was going to be my QB2 target until my game plan got messed up, so I really like that value pick. I think QB will end up being a position of strength for you so long as age doesn't catch up with either guy. Arians + Palmer is really a great match.

At RB you added the KC RB3 after this list was posted which doesn't change much. Your RB position totally hinges on Gurley as you will get very little production out of Bush and Turbin. Very risky, but rookies have paid off pretty well in recent years. Would've liked to have seen at least a semi-feasible RB3 in the mix, though.

Really, really thin at WR. Hate to see a rookie at WR2 and an NFL WR3 in the fantasy WR3 slot. I liked Johnson before he was on the Vikings, but with Patterson and Wallace in town, I'm not bothering with him. I also liked Blackmon but he's looking fat and has been away for a long time. Very risky. Could get almost nothing out of him. I see why you don't like Quick now.. you stole Britt! Britt looked ok after Quick got injured, but Quick was clearly the shinier toy out of the two of them. Shorts has a documented case of the dropsies, but he seems poised for a WR2 role in Houston. Might be a nice pick if they don't let a rookie leap frog him.

Really strong at TE even though I'm not particularly excited about either guy. Graham has left the top tier so very hard to pay such an early pick for him, however Sea isn't paying him to only get 80 targets. I think Fleener benefited from Allen's injury and slow recover. Will Allen back and Andre Johnson signed, I see a steep drop in targets for Fleener, but he'll still have a few nice games to bolster a 2ppr stat line.

You need immediate and strong impact from Gurley and White. If either one flounders, I think you'll be out pretty quickly. If they both flourish, you could make a run. Rookies are risky after the draft but relying on them before you know their situation is about as risky as it gets.

QB6 - Big Ben

QB11 - Rivers

I typically wait a round later, preferring two mid-level QBs (last year my favorite combo was Tannehill/Palmer) but my plans got screwed up when Spiller unexpectedly went two picks before my 4th round selection. Seeing no RB/WR/TE I considered as value there, I decided to just get a jump on QBs, knowing the QB run was just about to start and most position players would slip.

RB2 - Charles

RB27 - Martin

RB34 - Riddick

RB40 - Knile Davis

RB78 - Rainey

Playing it safe at RB by handcuffing KC and TB running backs with a PPR specialist in Riddick who should be taking over a larger role with the departure of Bush. Injuries at RB can be so debilitating in this format, I decided to play not to lose at this position rather than angling for the home run.

WR13 - Benjamin

WR18 - Andre Johnson

WR34 - Decker

WR61 - Quick

WR70 - Stevie

WR96 - Miles Austin

I think AJ and Decker were steals. AJ + Luck = double digit TDs. Decker was good while injured and in a bad offense. Should be quite improved while healthy on Chan Gailey's offense. Quick was the WR1 before injury so I really like him, but to be safe I wouldn't have minded grabbing Britt later. It's ok because I really wanted Stevie with Rivers. He had three 1000 yard season with Fitzpatrick so I am interested to see him with a good QB. If Rivers gets traded then that will torpedo my brilliant plan. Miles Austin was a nice flyer. He's not old yet and has shown a lot of ability when healthy. Hopefully he finally figured out how to stay healthy last year in Cleveland.

TE Josh HIll

TE Virgin Green

TE Dennis Pitta

Hodge podge group. Need Hill to at least be serviceable. Don't need a breakout with the rest of my team being solid, but a breakout wouldn't hurt. Green's upside will be tempered with the addition of the oft-injured Owen Daniels, but that means more opportunity for Pitta in Baltimore due to Daniels' departure... if his hip doesn't pop out of socket again.

K Zuerlein

K Nugent

Just trying to nab two guys who won't lose their jobs.

D TB

D Jax

Taking a defense early is for suckers. Lovie Smith should turn around TB's D in his second year. Jax wasn't actually too bad in this format last year and is a young unit. Should get better.

solid QB's...

you seem to have some faith in the TB running game....I might be missing out on something there....you may not even have the starter let alone a handcuff situation.....may be under estimating Sims's role....some talk about Martin available for trade and maybe even cut....could be another MJD here soon....Sims seems to be the guy on 3rd down and at least spelling/splitting series....not sure where Rainey fits in at the moment and that might have been a wated pick....luckily you have two guys in Davis/Riddick who actually offer some stand alone value....like those picks a lot....

AJ as WR18 seems about right, for that to be a steal he'd have to have a pretty big year....Decker seems about right as well with Marshall in town and the current QB situation so steal might not be the word I would use to describe those two picks....I do like those as a decent top 3 though....after that it gets a little shaky with Quick coming off injury and the last two picks may net you very little production.....

in this format at some point I think we all have to give the TE position the credit it deserves and I think you may have got caught a little on the back side of some mini runs by slow playing it there....Hill could maybe save your bacon if he breaks out, but you could be in serious trouble....Pitta may not even play and while Green will see the field because of his blocking, Daniels (and now Casey) will be in the receiving mix there....and a 12th on Green seems really steep....

I like some of what you did here, but the early QB double dip at the 4-5 turn, the questions about Sims in TB, and the slow play at TE could change things a little.....not sure what you could have gotten later at QB had you passed on Rivers.....but there were some serviceable guys available.....AJ and Decker may really need to be those steals you were talking about.....

good luck..... :banned:

I don't like the TB run game. However, I think the team will be a little better and that Sims is nothing more than a 3rd down back. He's just getting love because he is young. I recall reading that the advanced statistics showed Sims was crap as a runner and Rainey was above average. Martin is too cheap to bother getting rid of. I'd welcome a trade, though. Between the two of them, I should be guaranteed a nonzero RB2 score...

I believe AJ could crack the top 12. That's why I think he was steal. Look at Decker's stats last year (and read this article - "A typically less-than-100-percent Decker still managed to qualify as the 10th-highest scoring fantasy wideout during the 11 weeks that he ran at least 25 routes."). He was really good for an injured player on a terrible aerial attack. Gailey will fix this. Marshall is just a possession receiver, so Decker will still get the valuable deep targets, which Fitzpatrick was actually pretty good at last year. Be prepared to be surprised if Decker is healthy. As for Quick, you're acting like he tore a patellar tendon or achilles in week 17. It is a shoulder injury and it happened relatively early in the season. If what he showed last year wasn't a mirage then he should pick up where he left off. Miles could be a bust (age, injuries, or rookie WR), but you are underestimating Stevie. He's only 28, has been a WR1 before, and if you take into account the sample size, he did very well in SF last year. If Rivers gets traded, though, that will hurt Stevie a lot. He's being overlooked. At least put him on your radar in redraft leagues this year as a last round flyer. Trust me.

I agree, 2PPR make a big difference, but the position isn't consistent. Having 2-3 mediocre guys in best ball can be just as good as a stud and a dud. Josh Hill will get some targets and appears to be athletic enough to do some damage. There were some statistics backing up the idea that Graham was just an above average TE in an elite situation, so don't be surprised if Hill ends up top 10. Kubiak knows how to use his TEs and Daniels has a history of injuries. I like Casey but Kubiak never used him that much in Houston. Green is pretty athletic. He could win some targets on merit even if Daniels stays healthy. Pitta was risky, but he's a TE3 for me and came very cheap and has a very nice upside (61/669/7 in '13).

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good stuff ninja....some thoughts

big week 17 for Decker.....it increased his end of the year weekly average (which is something I look at in survivor more than total points) by two points per week....I'm not generally that guy that likes to "take weeks out" but such a huge portion of his 2014 stats came from that game....you can't really ignore it...and now he becomes the WR2 with a target hog in town....

I like Stevie's spot....with or without Rivers.....with obviously is better....

I think Matthews may be flying under the radar right now as people don't know how to react after the super bowl, SEA focus on the running game, and Graham signing....I think Matthews offers some extreme value now for those willing to commit to him passing the eye ball test and I'll just leave it at that.....I think many survivor owners will be kicking themselves on that one....including Ref who passed in some other leagues....agree if Shorts locks down WR2 there could be something there, kind of like say.... your guy Stevie...Blackmon will be a swing player for me in many of the leagues....Britt is a solid pick where I got him with or without a Quick return....and if you want to keep thinking Quick's injury was minor and he will be fine....don't go to his rotoworld page...

good luck

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Schedule tonight should be fun to see how the byes fall..

Denver and Chicago sharing a bye sucks.

Detroit pulling a later bye isn't good either unless I get lucky with Fitz / Mett.

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Cleaner team version.

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15 (7)
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24 (8)
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9 (9)
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19 (8)
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50 (8)
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79
1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3 (11)
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21 (8)
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42 (6)
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58 (7)
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66 (7)
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76 (6)

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97 (9)

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10 (6)
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23 (11)
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17 (5)
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27 (11)
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6 (4)
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21 (6)
5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24
Quarterbacks - Waited a little long to get QB1 and QB2 for the team, but overall I like the duo. A bit too mercurial for my taste, but in a 16 teamer you want (A) 2 sure starters, (B) big play potential and © offenses that favor scoring. I think I have all 3 here, even with uncertainty on health. Would have liked to have a more stable QB1 (like Eli, who went right before me) to pair with Bradford, who I really wanted as my QB2, but overall I'm content. I think this is an average to slightly above average group. Grade: B-
2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79

I just talked about my last 2 RBs (will include again here) but I like my Top 3 as well. Foster should be a Top 10 RB as long as he stays healthy. Morris is slow and steady, and I think WASH will use him even more this year. Not much for PPR though, but Sproles is a solid RB3 that can contribute (and he will also pair a little with Bradford if they both have a big game).

David Johnson, Rook. A bit of a crapshoot at the tail end of the draft and the 2nd tier of rookie RBs, but I like what I read and see about the Northern Iowa RB. Good hands as a receiver, which is a plus for a rookie to get on the field - as long as he can pass block, which I believe he can. I also like to roll dice on smaller school RBs because if they put up numbers, they likely were the #1 option on their team (by far) and if defenses were keying on him and he still delivered, then I think he can transition better to the pro game than a big school RB who had big road graders and more options on offense to keep defenses honest. We'll see where he lands.

Pierre Thomas, RB, FA. I LOVE this pick in Round 20. I don't even think he was picked at all in PDSL1, which I think is a mistake. RB79 for a veteran RB FA who has rumored ties to Baltimore and New England. While 30, Thomas has not even had 1,200 touches in his 8-year career. He has averaged over 4 YPC 6 out of 8 years, including 3 of the last 4. Plenty of catches (45 last year, averaged 50+ the last 4) and he is a smart player. Wherever he lands - and he will land somewhere - he will contribute in a big way.

Overall, I like having 5 RBs with good PPR value for 4 of them, one Rookie with upside and lots of veteran value. Normally I'm not as strong at RB, but I think this is a pretty good group, especially for 16 teams. Grade B to B+.

1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

Antonio Brown is a stud WR1, hands down. Jordan Matthews is now a WR1 for Philly, and Bradford pairs well with him for upside (I like that). VJax is underrated here with QB issues and Mike Evans, but the veteran will get his. Eddie Royal and M. Wilson may look odd, but they represent Cutler's #2 and #3 WR, who will be 2 of the Top 5 targets he has (A.Jeffery, M. Bennett, Forte). They'll probably combine for 100 catches and 8-10 TDs, and that works for me as WR3BC. Cole Beasley is a solid slot guy who Romo is liking more and more. I mentioned A. Wilson earlier (included below).

Albert Wilson, WR, KC. I like this pick because he came on late last year and was the most explosive WR by a mile for KC. Can he do it again? Maybe, maybe not - but he could be the DJax to complement Maclin for Any Reid - if only Alex Smith can get him the ball. As a WR7, getting a WR2 NFL starter is a good pick in my book.

Overall I like this group as an above average group. Strong WR1, solid WR2, good WR3BC options. Seven WRs is a good thing when you take 2 from the same team. 3 WRs pair with my 2 QBs, so have solid upside.

Grade: B

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23
Nothing flashy here at all, just two solid veterans who should get a good amount of work. I just hope that they last all season long and produce respectable numbers.
Grade: B-
14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21

Two starting PKs for teams that have never shared a bye since 2002. A dome kicker. Good weather outside kicker. Check, check, check. Grade: B+

Two defenses (one above average) that have never shared a bye since 2002. A coach (Belichick) that loves to emphasize special teams and the return game and field position and forcing turnovers. Two games against the Jets. I like this pair. Grade: B

Overall: I like this team and don't see any major holes. How can this squad win it all? Both QBs and both TEs have to remain healthy, and A. Foster would help there as well. D. Johnson and/or P. Thomas finding good landing spots will help, but not mandatory. As long as QB and TE hold up, I like this team to still be in the mix for the Nov/Dec portion of the schedule.

Overall Grade: B.

Adding byes.

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Did anyone comment on mine? Not sure....

I ain't scared.....

5.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jay Cutler CHI QB15 (7)
7.09 105. Jeff Pasquino Bradford, Sam PHI QB24 (8)

like BSS... going RB in the 4th had a pretty big impact on your QB situation as 9 QB's went between your 4-5 picks....for a guy that got benched and has a ton of people wondering if he really has what it takes, he is not your ideal QB1.....is Morris enough of a difference maker in PPR to justify passing on QB1 for RB2.....not sure....you definately were on the backside of the QB run we know always happens in the 5th-6th-7th area....and that is the decision and dice roll many have to make in the 4th....(I generally prefer to go ahead and bite the bullet and snag a top QB by the end of the 4th if I know it means probably having to double up in the 5-6-7 rounds anyway, just a crucial position IMO)...we really have no clue how Bradford will be when he returns, he wasn't tearing it up before his injury....if he stays in PHI, I guess it could be a nice spot....with Cutler as your QB1, it took some church bells to pass on Carr and Palmer in the 6th....this time Witten may have been worth it, although some other guys that could be TE1's fell a little in this draft....this could be worse, like if Bradford goes to CLE or something....

2.08 Jeff Pasquino - Arian Foster, HOU, RB9
4.08 Jeff Pasquino - Alred Morris. WAS, RB19
11.09 169. Jeff Pasquino Sproles, Darren PHI RB50
18.08 280. Jeff Pasquino Johnson, David ROOK RB68
20.08 312. Jeff Pasquino Thomas, Pierre FA* RB79

hard for me to comment here cause your two top guys have been on very few if any of my teams in this format....not my favorite survivor format guys....you should post some scores here for a while....would like to see Sproles usage increase a little but it's getting crowded there, big time...no clue about the rook....and Thomas was on my radar in the 20th and probbaly would have been on my team had he made it.....good do it all football player that should find work and in the right spot could be a huge addition for you.....

1.09 Jeff Pasquino - Brown, Antonio PIT WR3
3.09 Jeff Pasquino - Jordan Matthews, PHI, WR21
8.08 120. Jeff Pasquino Jackson, Vincent TBB WR42
10.08 152. Jeff Pasquino Royal, Eddie CHI WR58
12.08 184. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Marquess CHI WR66
15.09 233. Jeff Pasquino Beasley, Cole DAL WR76

19.09 297. Jeff Pasquino Wilson, Albert KCC WR97

AB at 9 is pretty nice and a no brainer....I sniffed Mathews with my pick in the third, but not sure what to think about the QB sitaution in PHI and the QB seems to make a difference for him sometimes....plus it's easy to think he just takes over as WR1, but is that his game...?....outside feature guy...I don't know...but solid WR2 for sure....Jackson feels like a steal in the 8th when you look back at some of the guys that went before him (guys like McFadden, etc).....Royal shouldn't miss a beat back with JC....good double up there with Wilson, and I like Beasley.....A. Wilson could be nice but we will see on draft day...solid group here and the strength of your team...

6.08 Jeff Pasquino - Jason Witten, DAL TE10
9.09 137. Jeff Pasquino Miller, Heath PIT TE23

I probably like this combo more than others as they could ham and egg 8+ catch games all year long and their QB's love em....

14.08 216. Jeff Pasquino Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK17
17.09 265. Jeff Pasquino Graham, Shayne NOS PK27
13.09 201. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP D/ST6
16.08 248. Jeff Pasquino Cowboys, Dallas DAL D/ST21
you might need one of your QB's to kind of have that breakout type year to win it all cause I'm not sure they can ham and egg you all the way......Foster injury also kills this team unless Johnson/Thomas also have that breakout type year.....WR's need to be huge as they should be and along with TE and special teams you should be okay.....QB/RB will make or break ya.....good luck
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Thanks for the comments Ref. Solid breakdown and for the most part I agree.

Hard for me to pass on Morris in the 4th and I'm OK with my QBs, so considering how solid I was at RB and that I like my QBs, I wouldn't change anything really.

Fun to see how it went by taking Morris in the 4th.

Interesting to see where rooks fall now.

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Mettenberger, Zach TEN QB 11.06
Stafford, Matthew DET QB 5.06
Fitzpatrick, Ryan NYJ QB 20.11

Waited just a little too long to pick my 2nd QB. I think Mett starts but I'm less than confident in that or of him doing well if he does start. But frankly I like my 9th and 10th round picks enough that I wouldn't change this now. If Stafford misses games or just underperforms, I'll be in trouble. ETA: didn't really like the WR options I was looking at in round 20 so I figured I'd gamble with Fitzpatrick winning the job and being productive. Probably a wasted pick but not many round 20 picks do much anyway.

Anderson, C.J. DEN RB 2.11
Carey, Ka'Deem CHI RB 17.06
Coleman, Tevin FA RB ® 10.11
Forte, Matt CHI RB 1.06
Ridley, Stevan NYJ RB 12.11
I actually like this group. Understand if others wouldn't, and I'm unhappy about missing out on Ball. I probably picked Carey much earlier than needed but I didn't want to miss out on him too. Plan at one point was to double up on Broncos and Bears. I like Tevin Coleman almost as much as Gordon. Could be a huge payoff or not, as is always a risk with rookies.
Allen, Keenan SDC WR 3.06
Colston, Marques NOS WR 9.06
Cooper, Riley PHI WR 18.11
Floyd, Michael ARI WR 6.11
Wallace, Mike MIN WR 7.06
Wheaton, Markus PIT WR 14.11
The main problem with going RB/RB is your WRs will be weak. Still, I think this group is solid. Wallace and Colston will probably be on a lot of my teams if these values hold. Allen should be better this year, though the risk of losing Rivers is a concern. Floyd has some upside as does Wheaton. Cooper is not a good receiver but the opportunity is there and he can't be cut due to the cap hit if he were cut. Despite his poor play he was still an alright #4 WR with a handful of decent games.
Daniels, Owen DEN TE 8.11
Ertz, Zach PHI TE 4.11
Ertz could make it into the top 3-5 TEs this year IMO, Daniels is in a perfect spot for production.
Parkey, Cody PHI PK 13.06
Santos, Cairo KCC PK 16.11
Didn't realize I went heavy into Philly, but I guess I did. Two young kickers with jobs.
Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 15.06
Raiders, Oakland OAK Def 19.06
Both of these defenses should improve. In hindsight I would have taken the Titans D in round 18 and whatever WR fell to the 19th (if Cooper didn't, probably Jarius Wright which would have backed up Wallace).
Overall I'm probably slightly above average with significant risk at QB. This team will live and die with Stafford and the off-chance that Mett does well.

the Duck landing in Nashville sucks, but Coleman in Atlanta makes up for it. He won't walk into the job but he should be in a good position to get carries.

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