Domestic violence calls are the most dangerous calls for police. Always have been, probably always will be. Tragic every time and another very good reason domestic violence perpetrators should not be allowed to have guns.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-officer-shot-in-ambush-had-no-chance-of-survival/ar-AADflro?ocid=spartandhp
Stories like this are why some officers might be quick to pull their service weapon.
Am I reading it wrong or was this not actually a domestic abuse call? It’s actually hard from the article to determine exactly what was going on. Were they helping his gf clear out the garage or were they looking to serve a bench warrant?Domestic violence calls are the most dangerous calls for police. Always have been, probably always will be. Tragic every time and another very good reason domestic violence perpetrators should not be allowed to have guns.
Both were happening, I think the officer who was shot was part of the DV order to help this woman get her belongings.Am I reading it wrong or was this not actually a domestic abuse call? It’s actually hard from the article to determine exactly what was going on. Were they helping his gf clear out the garage or were they looking to serve a bench warrant?
Ok, yeah I can see that. It’s so sad to lose that young woman and such a POS whose apparently been abusing women all his life.Both were happening, I think the officer who was shot was part of the DV order to help this woman get her belongings.
Agree.Domestic violence calls are the most dangerous calls for police. Always have been, probably always will be. Tragic every time and another very good reason domestic violence perpetrators should not be allowed to have guns.
According to the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence, the Bureau of Justice Statistics shows that two-thirds of victims of spousal violence report that the perpetrator had been drinking. In a global study of intimate partner violence, the odds were higher worldwide in relationships where one or both partners had problems with alcohol, compared to relationships where neither of them did.
Now see how many of the ones with booze but no guns resulted in police deaths.
Now see how many of the ones with booze but no guns resulted in police deaths.
I think there will be a time where we look back on the drinking culture and the way it’s portrayed in tvs and movies like we do smoking.
This has already become a reality for the military. The military historically has been a very heavy alcohol fueled culture. Many customs and traditions have alcohol related origins. Command events generally involve a couple kegs.I think there will be a time where we look back on the drinking culture and the way it’s portrayed in tvs and movies like we do smoking.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-police-officer-shot-killed-while-responding-to-a-battery-and-disturbance-callA police officer in Illinois was shot and killed while responding to a call for help in a rural community on Tuesday, according to officials.
Illinois State Police said in a news release that 39-year-old Fulton County Sheriff’s Deputy Troy Chisum had responded to a battery and disturbance call around 2 p.m. in Avon, located about 45 miles west of Peoria.
While responding to the scene, officials said that "multiple shots were fired," and Chisum was shot and killed.
“On behalf of the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office, I would like to extend our deepest condolences to the family and friends of Deputy Chisum," Fulton County Sheriff Jeff Standard said in a statement. "Deputy Chisum dedicated his life to the service of his community. His legacy and sacrifice will forever be remembered.”
This is the officer who shot the guy who was on his knees in the hallway of a hotel. I remember that video, I'm just a little surprised the officer was acquittedBS
Cop fired in unarmed shooting reinstated, gets retirement. I’ll link the article if I can find it again, it was in my news feed. The guy was a cop for a few years, killed an unarmed man and was dismissed, now reinstated and filing for medical retirement so he can get about $2500/month.
Hope this guy goes away for a very long time and I hope his victims that are still alive are able to get their lives back togetherFlorida cop found planting meth on 52 individuals, one lost their son/daughter, according to the WaPo.
Nice guy, nice work.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/florida-deputy-arrested-planting-drugs-charges/index.html
https://reason.com/2019/07/11/this-cop-is-getting-2500-a-month-because-killing-an-unarmed-man-in-a-hotel-hallway-gave-him-ptsd/BS
Cop fired in unarmed shooting reinstated, gets retirement. I’ll link the article if I can find it again, it was in my news feed. The guy was a cop for a few years, killed an unarmed man and was dismissed, now reinstated and filing for medical retirement so he can get about $2500/month.
I would agree with that. I think it more important for people that live in a community to police that community then it is to add diversity. Granted, that(more diversity) may happen as a result of doing this but it wouldn’t be the specific objective.More racial diversity in U.S. police departments unlikely to reduce shootings: study
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-racial-diversity-in-us-police-departments-unlikely-to-reduce-shootings-study/ar-AAEIMMu?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=mailsignout
Amazing job by those officers (you can see them running in and ducking behind the car at the top of the screen). Seems like they waited for bystanders to clear before popping out and killing the shooter steps before he reached the door of the bar.
Kudos to those cops. No telling how many lives they saved.
we suck?Amazing job aside, though, what does it say about our country that we have police armed with long guns close enough to react within 30 seconds to the start of a mass shooting in the entertainment district of a moderate sized Midwestern city?
Its both necessary - and will fuel the cry for more militarization of our police forces, and sad that we seem to be sucked into a spiraling escalation of gun violence, where our police feel the need for more and more weapons to combat the threat of civilians with weapons.Amazing job aside, though, what does it say about our country that we have police armed with long guns close enough to react within 30 seconds to the start of a mass shooting in the entertainment district of a moderate sized Midwestern city?
This actually started as a result of the North Hollywood Bank robbery in 1997. Many officers still carried revolvers at the time. The police were so badly outgunned they commandeered assault weapons from a local gun shop.Amazing job aside, though, what does it say about our country that we have police armed with long guns close enough to react within 30 seconds to the start of a mass shooting in the entertainment district of a moderate sized Midwestern city?
I give up. Is it because of video games?Amazing job aside, though, what does it say about our country that we have police armed with long guns close enough to react within 30 seconds to the start of a mass shooting in the entertainment district of a moderate sized Midwestern city?
This actually started as a result of the North Hollywood Bank robbery in 1997. Many officers still carried revolvers at the time. The police were so badly outgunned they commandeered assault weapons from a local gun shop.
This is common in Europe except they have some kind of giant machine guns.Amazing job aside, though, what does it say about our country that we have police armed with long guns close enough to react within 30 seconds to the start of a mass shooting in the entertainment district of a moderate sized Midwestern city?
This is true, but as someone who has tangentially followed this, the North Hollywood bank robbery of 1997 led to a great reconsideration of arms deployed by police, and combined with another 1997 action, the 1033 program in the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1997.That certainly ramped it up, but the militarization of police started before 1997.
Have you read the Rise of the Warrior Cop by Balko? Its a pretty good history of the rise of militarization.This is true, but as someone who has tangentially followed this, the North Hollywood bank robbery of 1997 led to a great reconsideration of arms deployed by police, and combined with another 1997 action, the 1033 program in the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1997.
I remembered this from following Radley Balko and his articles, but this was pulled from Wiki.
I have not read the book. I used to follow him over at Reason's Hit and Run and read him for years while he was there. I tried to link to a Post article of his just now about President Obama scaling back the militarization, but it was behind a paywall.Have you read the Rise of the Warrior Cop by Balko? Its a pretty good history of the rise of militarization.
This is a lousy take even for this forum. Ugh. I’m surprised some of you didn’t question whether the above was a justified shooting.gianmarco said:Just read the following:
"Dear Police Officers,
Please give black men and boys the same consideration you give mass murderers you apprehend without taking one shot even after they've killed dozens of people.
Thank you."
You probably wrote it.gianmarco said:Just read the following:
"Dear Police Officers,
Please give black men and boys the same consideration you give mass murderers you apprehend without taking one shot even after they've killed dozens of people.
Thank you."
I also believe the aftermath of our ME wars led to a proliferation of this kind of equipment so then much of it was distributed to local law enforcement.rockaction said:This is true, but as someone who has tangentially followed this, the North Hollywood bank robbery of 1997 led to a great reconsideration of arms deployed by police, and combined with another 1997 action, the 1033 program in the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1997.
I remembered this from following Radley Balko and his articles, but this was pulled from Wiki.
I agree. I tend to lean pro-cop on judgement call situations. However, some actions by officers are clearly wrong and I'll acknowledge those as well.As for the “hot take” above, I neither think it is lousy or unlousy. The police were certainly heroes this weekend but they sometimes aren’t heroes. Questioning the good, bad and everything in between is important.
I am with you. I am glad we see eye to eye on the big picture here while acknowledging different leanings can coexist. For every X number of good police work there is Y number of bad police work. I don’t have the solution to that system of equations and of course it’s not the same everywhere. What is important to me is that we always work to find the solutions, no matter where they lead us.I agree. I tend to lean pro-cop on judgement call situations. However, some actions by officers are clearly wrong and I'll acknowledge those as well.
I hate that we live in an age where people can overlook all the good things the police provide and respect what they deal with put on the line for the well-being of others.
That's societies thinking today, blame everyone but the person doing wrong. That's how parents are bringing up their brat kids today as well. Just watching some of these live cop shows on tv, it's a wonder more moron criminals arent killed. Whatever police officers make, it isn't enough.I agree. I tend to lean pro-cop on judgement call situations. However, some actions by officers are clearly wrong and I'll acknowledge those as well.
I hate that we live in an age where people can overlook all the good things the police provide and respect what they deal with put on the line for the well-being of others.
No sense letting the facts derail a good protest.