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3 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Like why not knock on the front door in the first place and immediately ID yourself as police? Why are they are creeping around the home? It was a wellness check because a door was open, sloppy police work resulted in a person being killed for no reason.

See the sad thing is, the officer was most likely scared. And scared officers are allowed to pull the trigger with no recourse which is a problem.  Especially when you are irrationally scared due to some preconceived bias.  There is a difference though between being scared, and being threatened or in a situation that requires you to shoot to kill.  Based on the info thus far, this was not that situation.  And the officer should pay the consequences for that mistake. 

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8 minutes ago, PinkydaPimp said:

See the sad thing is, the officer was most likely scared. And scared officers are allowed to pull the trigger with no recourse which is a problem.  Especially when you are irrationally scared due to some preconceived bias.  There is a difference though between being scared, and being threatened or in a situation that requires you to shoot to kill.  Based on the info thus far, this was not that situation.  And the officer should pay the consequences for that mistake. 

If a call comes in for a wellness check because a front door is open and that makes the officer so scared that they are ready to shoot at the drop of a hat, that person has no business in the force. That’s one of the most innocuous calls possible. Sure anything can go wrong at anytime but you are there to make sure someone is ok and they did the absolute opposite of that. If the homeowner shot and killed the officer, that would have been more understandable than what happened here. 

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15 hours ago, Henry Ford said:

And obviously didn’t take the money or drugs with them.  

The money and drugs were found in his home. The firefight happened outside in the parking lot. 

They took everything he had on him outside.

Should they have tossed his place too after shooting him and one of them being shot? Provided of course that they knew which apartment was his. 

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46 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:

The money and drugs were found in his home. The firefight happened outside in the parking lot. 

They took everything he had on him outside.

Should they have tossed his place too after shooting him and one of them being shot? Provided of course that they knew which apartment was his. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-9P_CnNZg

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49 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:

The money and drugs were found in his home. The firefight happened outside in the parking lot. 

They took everything he had on him outside.

Should they have tossed his place too after shooting him and one of them being shot? Provided of course that they knew which apartment was his. 

I’m mostly kidding. It is a weird situation. Also, honestly, yes - if you murder a drug dealer for what’s in his pockets you’re remarkably stupid even compared to someone who murders a drug dealer for twelve pounds of weed and thousands of dollars. 
 

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1 hour ago, Henry Ford said:

I’m mostly kidding. It is a weird situation. Also, honestly, yes - if you murder a drug dealer for what’s in his pockets you’re remarkably stupid even compared to someone who murders a drug dealer for twelve pounds of weed and thousands of dollars. 
 

Allegedly joshua Brown fired first hitting one of the men that were there to buy drugs. 

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12 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:

Allegedly joshua Brown fired first hitting one of the men that were there to buy drugs. 

I look forward to an official determination of the circumstances surrounding his death. 

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On 10/13/2019 at 12:29 AM, EYLive said:

people can't even keep incompetent cops from killing them in their own homes.

Fixed to remove the blatant racism.

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Basically, never call the cops to "assist" if that person is black. 

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18 minutes ago, Jobber said:

Basically, never call the cops to "assist" if that person is black. 

Sad but true

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The cop has resigned so he can't be fired.  

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I almost always try and back the side of police ....

but

 

if there are a couple of people prowling around my house, at 2:45 am, flashlight, no announcements on who they are, I can't see their vehicles ..... I'm assuming the worst, grabbing my gun to be ready ..... if they shoot me in my home for that ?

that's not me .... that's all on THEM

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Seems like one of the most significant NRA/2nd amendment cases in awhile. 

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I hope in these cases we start going up the chain of command and holding others responsible.  Otherwise this will continue.

 

Hold the department responsible for not training these officers properly and encouraging an environment where this may have been(likely) the norm.  
 

Look at the laws that basically send a message to these departments that they can and should shoot first.  
 

Until they hold the people enabling this accountable this will happen over and over and over.

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We give police body armor for a reason.  We give them radios and backup for a reason.  that reason is so that they can be tactical, so that they can be safe and not feel instantly in danger, so that they can have the split seconds necessary to make sound decisions.

This was not a sound decision.  A woman is dead, unnecessarily and unjustifiably.  A gun not in the hand is not worth two in the chest. (Reworking a saying, not saying that is precisely what she got.)

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6 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

We give police body armor for a reason.  We give them radios and backup for a reason.  that reason is so that they can be tactical, so that they can be safe and not feel instantly in danger, so that they can have the split seconds necessary to make sound decisions.

This was not a sound decision.  A woman is dead, unnecessarily and unjustifiably.  A gun not in the hand is not worth two in the chest. (Reworking a saying, not saying that is precisely what she got.)

And I just can't get over the fact is was a 311 call and not even a 911 call.  I mean WTF is that cop even thinking?????

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18 minutes ago, urbanhack said:

And I just can't get over the fact is was a 311 call and not even a 911 call.  I mean WTF is that cop even thinking?????

I think its important to reinforce the notion that this is much larger than "one cop" - and I don't mean that in a sense that there a a bunch of bad cops running around.

Police around the country are poorly trained to deal with these situations, and too many have been taught (learned) over the years that its better to shoot first.  

This particular office made a bad decision.  But, imo, this reflects poorly on the department, as much, or more than the officer in question.

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Charged with Murder. Arrested. Held without bail. 

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FORT WORTH — The former Fort Worth police officer who fatally shot a woman through her bedroom window this weekend was charged with murder on Monday and booked into jail without the possibility for bond, according to Tarrant County jail records.

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7 hours ago, EYLive said:

Yep. Removed your blatant racism. This guy didn't shoot her because she was black. He shot her because he was a completely incompetent cop who didn't even come close to following correct procedure. He will spend the rest of his life in prison and rightfully so but he did not look thru the window and think 'oh black person, I'm gonna murder her'. 

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6 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Yep. Removed your blatant racism. This guy didn't shoot her because she was black. He shot her because he was a completely incompetent cop who didn't even come close to following correct procedure. He will spend the rest of his life in prison and rightfully so but he did not look thru the window and think 'oh black person, I'm gonna murder her'. 

Who am I racist against? I'm dying to know. 

And how do you know your bolded statement is true? If that's a black neighborhood, that could be 100% what he was thinking.

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On ‎10‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 10:08 PM, EYLive said:

Who am I racist against? I'm dying to know. 

And how do you know your bolded statement is true? If that's a black neighborhood, that could be 100% what he was thinking.

Obviously the white cop. At the risk of getting a timeout, you just made the dumbest statement in the history of the internet and it as well is yet another racist comment. Now you know.

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1 hour ago, lod001 said:

Obviously the white cop. At the risk of getting a timeout, you just made the dumbest statement in the history of the internet and it as well is yet another racist comment. Now you know.

HEY EVERYONE!!! I'm racist against whites!!!  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You should thank your lucky stars you live in a world where innocent black people aren't gunned down by white cops in a regular basis. What a great life.

 

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7 minutes ago, Yenrub said:

Kid shot in back of head through a fence while clearly running away from police 

https://twitter.com/ABC7Veronica/status/1186879531849637888

Awful. The kid was dumb for running, but he didn't deserve that. When are we going to get better training for police, as well as getting rid of the bad eggs?

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3 hours ago, Kal El said:

Awful. The kid was dumb for running, but he didn't deserve that. When are we going to get better training for police, as well as getting rid of the bad eggs?

The kid was running because he was wanted for a murder from the day before that. They thought he was armed, with the gun that they thought he killed somebody with(well technically the bullets didnt kill him, he shot at a moving car which caused the car to crash, allegedly). 

We will never know 100% for sure if he was guilty, but I don't think anybody really questions that. Even the statement from his atty pretty much says he was.

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Even though he was armed the day before doesn't mean he's going to be armed the next day and you can't just go around shooting somebody because they used to be armed 24 hours earlier

This happened two years ago. 

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