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This is quickly becoming my favorite show on television . The characters are just tremendous ,the Al Swearingen character is easily the most magnetic on TV. Every week gets more quotables from Swearingen - last weeks......................................showing his tender side to the whore who was afraid of catching small pox, "OK, a couple of days of hand-jobs only, then.""Of course, the truth is, as a base of operations you cannot beat a f'cking saloon.""You better have a payin' dwarf underneath you."Brilliant :popcorn:

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I enjoy this show, but that one hottie whore from the other saloon needs to lose her clothes soon.another nice episode. All the characters here are well written.

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I enjoy this show, but that one hottie whore from the other saloon needs to lose her clothes soon.

another nice episode. All the characters here are well written.

:thumbup:

I've been wondering if that's her getting into the bathtub in the opening credits.

It's good to see Willie and Nellie Oleson join the Deadwood cast. I always knew that little Nellie was a slut.

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"The Sopranos" followed by "Deadwood" are by far the two best hours on TV.How about Bullock confronting Swearingen last night:"I want you to recommend someone to check out the widow's calim. That way, if it goes different in either direction after she sells, I am coming after you.""Well then you better sell your store because I will come after you, and watching out for me will take every minute of your waking f***ing life."paraphrasing, but you get the gist....However, I thought for sure Bullock would knock off Jack McCall. To go through all he did just to turn him over to the authoriteis was odd. I know he told Seth the fight with the Indian probably saved McCall's life, and killing McCall was probably out of his character, as far as trying to do the right thing goes. But still......I wasn't sure about the talk about aardball's Biblical references between the Rev and his role in bringong out Bullock's "Goodness" but after hearing the Rev talk about Bullock returning with the scars on him, I think aardball is dead on.But contrary to that line of discussion re: Swearingen as the ultimate evil, how come he passed on hiring the young girl as a prostitute while the other place brought her into the job?

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duker,The girl wouldn't take the job. She was offered the spot at The Gem first.BTW, I didn't see a scam coming. This is going to get messy and I think it is going to pit Big Dave and Al against each other.

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But contrary to that line of discussion re: Swearingen as the ultimate evil, how come he passed on hiring the young girl as a prostitute while the other place brought her into the job?

I don't think he passed at all. I think Al just realized that the brother was an obstacle and he was going about bringing her into the fold in a delicate manner. I doubt he would have hired the brother at all if he wasn't interested in the girl. Did anyone see the turn coming with them as grifters? Good twist.This was my favorite episode yet. I finally came around to Jane's character. She's so honest to herself and has absolutely no filter. "When I heal someone, they stay f'n healed." :rotflmao: Good further development with the widow and Trixie characters. While Trixie is so concerned with the young girl's well being, her self-esteem isn't letting her leave and help herself. Bullock and Mrs. Garrett should make a good couple.

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Oh yes, I forgot about Jane.She doesn't seem as bad, when there isn't any snot running down her face.Did you notice the way that Andy looked at her? I know that she eventually married someone in Deadwood, or at least I thought it was in deadwood. Going back to the link that was provided on page one or two, you can read up on that. i wonder if it was Andy.Also, anyone know his connection to the craps saloon?

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Best use of a F'Bomb yet! Jane as she nurses the sick back to health. "Here, them me put this towel on your ef'en lips."I love this show!

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Did you notice the way that Andy looked at [Calamity Jane]? I know that she eventually married someone in Deadwood...

Did not know that.

I also assume the historical record shows Jack McCall was tried in court for killing Wild Bill Hickok, so Seth Bullock (a fictitious character) would be precluded from killing Jack McCall.

I could look it up.

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Isle and Santa Fe:Thanks. I must have missed that part, plus the grifter/scam part with those two kids. I'll watch for that tonight on HBO2's rebroadcast.

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Did you notice the way that Andy looked at [Calamity Jane]?  I know that she eventually married someone in Deadwood...

Did not know that.

I also assume the historical record shows Jack McCall was tried in court for killing Wild Bill Hickok, so Seth Bullock (a fictitious character) would be precluded from killing Jack McCall.

I could look it up.

Seth Bullock was not a ficticious character. The Deadwood site on HBO.com is showing a picture of the real Seth Bullock so I am assuming he was really around.

Seth Bullock

More info on Bullock (possible minor spoiler if you don't know the history of Deadwood)

Edit to add 2nd Bullock link

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Seth Bullock was not a ficticious character. The Deadwood site on HBO.com is showing a picture of the real Seth Bullock so I am assuming he was really around.Seth Bullock

Wow! :thumbup: I had assumed that (other than Wild Bill, Jack McCall and Calamity Jane) the cast of characters was fictional. I wonder how much of the rest of the show is based in historical fact.

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Seth Bullock was not a ficticious character. The Deadwood site on HBO.com is showing a picture of the real Seth Bullock so I am assuming he was really around.Seth Bullock

Wow! :thumbup: I had assumed that (other than Wild Bill, Jack McCall and Calamity Jane) the cast of characters was fictional. I wonder how much of the rest of the show is based in historical fact.
Here is a good site that has some history on the people of Deadwood. Click on the left link - Legendary Characters and Notable PeopleAl Swearengen, Charlie Utter, the Chinese community, Sol Star, the Bella Union, the Gem....all real people and places.Edited to fix linkGood stuff there. Edited by Steam2003

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More info on Bullock (possible minor spoiler if you don't know the history of Deadwood)

Interesting read, and no real "spoilers" to the show. I was thinking the series would have a limited run, limited even more by the death of Wild Bill. Given that Bullock is a "real" character and these are the "early days" of Deadwood as a town, this show could feasibly have a long run.

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Great episode last night. Suprised no one mentioned the reference to Wild Bill's dead man's hand of Aces and Eights.

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Great episode last night. Suprised no one mentioned the reference to Wild Bill's dead man's hand of Aces and Eights.

Also, did you notice Andy giving some mention to calamity when he was referencing Jane? Was that how she got the name or had she been called Calamity Jane earlier in the series (versus just being called Jane).

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Best episode of this show yet! I love Dan Devine (the bartender at the Gem who stabbed the guy for looking at the young girl), and now we see he has a real weakness.The best line of the night, of course, belongs to Al Sweringer when he was teaching his new employee about "specialists". Al's telling him he wants to open up a place that caters solely to specialists,"Maybe I'll do my business from the corner...hang upside like a f'n bat" :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Best episode of this show yet! I love Dan Devine (the bartender at the Gem who stabbed the guy for looking at the young girl), and now we see he has a real weakness.The best line of the night, of course, belongs to Al Sweringer when he was teaching his new employee about "specialists". Al's telling him he wants to open up a place that caters solely to specialists,"Maybe I'll do my business from the corner...hang upside like a f'n bat" :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I re-watched Deadwood last night. Watching it the second time is sometimes as good as the first time as there are lines that I miss due to the southern accent being used. Anyway, one of the great lines for me was from Calamity Jane. When the doc is yelling at the epileptic priest and is telling him he needs to get some sleep Calamity Jane chimes in with: “The doc hasn’t had much sleep either, that’s why his words are so f'ing harsh”. That may not be the exact quote, but, it was very funny to hear Jane apologize for someone else’s words being harsh. Kind of showed she cares for the priest and others in an ironic sort of way.Of course the line where she puts the cold towel on the guys "f'ing lips" was great as well.I'm hooked bigtime on this show!

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Best episode of this show yet! I love Dan Devine (the bartender at the Gem who stabbed the guy for looking at the young girl), and now we see he has a real weakness.The best line of the night, of course, belongs to Al Sweringer when he was teaching his new employee about "specialists". Al's telling him he wants to open up a place that caters solely to specialists,"Maybe I'll do my business from the corner...hang upside like a f'n bat" :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I re-watched Deadwood last night. Watching it the second time is sometimes as good as the first time as there are lines that I miss due to the southern accent being used. Anyway, one of the great lines for me was from Calamity Jane. When the doc is yelling at the epileptic priest and is telling him he needs to get some sleep Calamity Jane chimes in with: “The doc hasn’t had much sleep either, that’s why his words are so f'ing harsh”. That may not be the exact quote, but, it was very funny to hear Jane apologize for someone else’s words being harsh. Kind of showed she cares for the priest and others in an ironic sort of way.Of course the line where she puts the cold towel on the guys "f'ing lips" was great as well.I'm hooked bigtime on this show!
I thought the Doc lecturing the reverend on getting some sleep was probably the first instance of over-acting that I've seen in this show. The Doc looks the part, but I think he is one of the poorer actors on the show. Jane and Al are the best characters on this show though, and I couldn't say one bad thing about wither of their performances if I tried.

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I re-watched Deadwood last night. Watching it the second time is sometimes as good as the first time as there are lines that I miss due to the southern accent being used. Anyway, one of the great lines for me was from Calamity Jane. When the doc is yelling at the epileptic priest and is telling him he needs to get some sleep Calamity Jane chimes in with: “The doc hasn’t had much sleep either, that’s why his words are so f'ing harsh”. That may not be the exact quote, but, it was very funny to hear Jane apologize for someone else’s words being harsh. Kind of showed she cares for the priest and others in an ironic sort of way.Of course the line where she puts the cold towel on the guys "f'ing lips" was great as well.I'm hooked bigtime on this show!

Also when she and Charlie were at Wild Bill's grave, and Charlie started breaking down, Jane put her hand on his shoulder supporting him.Charlie asked if he could finish the story some other time. Jane came back w/ "I don't f******g care. I don't make the f*****g rules" or something to that effect.

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I re-watched Deadwood last night. Watching it the second time is sometimes as good as the first time as there are lines that I miss due to the southern accent being used. Anyway, one of the great lines for me was from Calamity Jane. When the doc is yelling at the epileptic priest and is telling him he needs to get some sleep Calamity Jane chimes in with: “The doc hasn’t had much sleep either, that’s why his words are so f'ing harsh”. That may not be the exact quote, but, it was very funny to hear Jane apologize for someone else’s words being harsh. Kind of showed she cares for the priest and others in an ironic sort of way.Of course the line where she puts the cold towel on the guys "f'ing lips" was great as well.I'm hooked bigtime on this show!

Also when she and Charlie were at Wild Bill's grave, and Charlie started breaking down, Jane put her hand on his shoulder supporting him.Charlie asked if he could finish the story some other time. Jane came back w/ "I don't f******g care. I don't make the f*****g rules" or something to that effect.
Yeah, that one had me rolling as well...good stuff!

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Just watched this week's episode again......I have to say the guy portraying EB Farnum does an excellent job with his character. Each week the guy gets more interesting/intriguing. When the show started out, all I could picture was the "Daryl" character from the Newhart show, now he's stealing the scenes he's in with Deadwood.

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Just watched this week's episode again......I have to say the guy portraying EB Farnum does an excellent job with his character. Each week the guy gets more interesting/intriguing. When the show started out, all I could picture was the "Daryl" character from the Newhart show, now he's stealing the scenes he's in with Deadwood.

I agree that the maturation of his character is going quite smoothly. I think he's going to be the one that kills Al Sweringer in the final episode. Does anyone know if they are planning a 2nd season or is this a one time thing? I don't want to go back to watching Hookers at the Point, but I will if I must.

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Just watched this week's episode again......I have to say the guy portraying EB Farnum does an excellent job with his character. Each week the guy gets more interesting/intriguing. When the show started out, all I could picture was the "Daryl" character from the Newhart show, now he's stealing the scenes he's in with Deadwood.

I agree that the maturation of his character is going quite smoothly. I think he's going to be the one that kills Al Sweringer in the final episode. Does anyone know if they are planning a 2nd season or is this a one time thing? I don't want to go back to watching Hookers at the Point, but I will if I must.
I'm guessing its a single season, since its based on facts. Just like Band of Brothers.

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Just watched this week's episode again......I have to say the guy portraying EB Farnum does an excellent job with his character.  Each week the guy gets more interesting/intriguing.  When the show started out, all I could picture was the "Daryl" character from the Newhart show, now he's stealing the scenes he's in with Deadwood.

I agree that the maturation of his character is going quite smoothly. I think he's going to be the one that kills Al Sweringer in the final episode. Does anyone know if they are planning a 2nd season or is this a one time thing? I don't want to go back to watching Hookers at the Point, but I will if I must.
I'm guessing its a single season, since its based on facts. Just like Band of Brothers.
I'm guessing they can squeeze several years of episodes out of this show. Do some online research on the town of Deadwood and you'll see there are some wild times ahead. I'd post them here but don't want to be accused of "spoiling".The events depicted so far have taken only a few weeks or (at most) months in 1876. The colorful history of Deadwood extends at least until 1899 and perhaps further. Many of the major characters on the show remain major players in the growth of Deadwood throughout those 20+ years, so we might still be watching Seth Bullock and Al Swearengen squaring off on HBO long after The Sopranos has gone to syndication on basic cable.

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HBO renewed the series for year 2 after only 2 episodes. :thumbup: Great show. :yes:

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Looks like Tolliver (Bella Union boss) may be as ruthless as Sweringer. That was pretty f'd up when he waxed those two kids, but they both had it coming to them I guess. I thought maybe Dan (bartender at the Gem) was going to get upset because he took such a liking to that girl but was surprised to see that he admitted he was caught up in her looks and didn't see her deception. Anyone who watch this regularly wanna tell me what Sweringer's position is on the whole territory/statehood issue? He obviously feels very strongly about keeping Congress away from them (and thereby creating a legal code), but what does last night's news of Indians have to do with this? What was that news exactly?

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I didn't understand what the Indian news was all about either....I know Al does want to keep statehood out of Deadwood and have things run the way it is now. He would loose money if the states got involved.***********Just another great episode. I'm surprised that the kids got killed off as well, that was an intresting stroy line but that what makes this show so great there is always a twist around the corner.

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Looks like Tolliver (Bella Union boss) may be as ruthless as Sweringer. That was pretty f'd up when he waxed those two kids, but they both had it coming to them I guess. I thought maybe Dan (bartender at the Gem) was going to get upset because he took such a liking to that girl but was surprised to see that he admitted he was caught up in her looks and didn't see her deception. Anyone who watch this regularly wanna tell me what Sweringer's position is on the whole territory/statehood issue? He obviously feels very strongly about keeping Congress away from them (and thereby creating a legal code), but what does last night's news of Indians have to do with this? What was that news exactly?

Remus,I think you have it mixed up. Al WANTS the us to make it a state. By doing so, the indians will be held at bay and the settlers will come into the area. Settlers equal customers and claims on land will become legal title.He wants the US gov there. That is why he was opposed to the trial of McCall. He didn't want the US to view the actions as that of a sovern land.

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I didn't understand what the Indian news was all about either....I know Al does want to keep statehood out of Deadwood and have things run the way it is now. He would loose money if the states got involved.***********Just another great episode. I'm surprised that the kids got killed off as well, that was an intresting stroy line but that what makes this show so great there is always a twist around the corner.

If the indians are pulling out and going to the reservation, that will encourage settlers and the US gov to come in and make it a state.

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Anyone who watch this regularly wanna tell me what Sweringer's position is on the whole territory/statehood issue? He obviously feels very strongly about keeping Congress away from them (and thereby creating a legal code), but what does last night's news of Indians have to do with this? What was that news exactly?

From what I can tell in reading some of the historical sites posted in this thread and watching the show, Deadwood is situated on lands that were supposedly set aside for the Indians. Therefore, the settlement was considered illegal.Hence Swearingen's comments to the jury on McCall's trial that they could not "really" convict McCall of Wild Bill's murder in a court since they are not recognized by the United States.However, once word came back with the riders who brought the smallpox vaccine that the Indians were leaving the area, Swearingen realized that the next step was recognition of their existence from the United States. While he may not like that, he understands the upcoming opportunities that recognition would bring. Hence, he was telling Farnum that the widow's claim was not that big of a deal anymore, there were other things that could make them rich.The previews showed that he is part of the group that begins bringing order to the area. It may br self-serving, but some of the historical sites say that he was a part of Deadwood for a while....

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Looks like Tolliver (Bella Union boss) may be as ruthless as Sweringer. That was pretty f'd up when he waxed those two kids, but they both had it coming to them I guess. I thought maybe Dan (bartender at the Gem) was going to get upset because he took such a liking to that girl but was surprised to see that he admitted he was caught up in her looks and didn't see her deception. Anyone who watch this regularly wanna tell me what Sweringer's position is on the whole territory/statehood issue? He obviously feels very strongly about keeping Congress away from them (and thereby creating a legal code), but what does last night's news of Indians have to do with this? What was that news exactly?

Remus,I think you have it mixed up. Al WANTS the us to make it a state. By doing so, the indians will be held at bay and the settlers will come into the area. Settlers equal customers and claims on land will become legal title.He wants the US gov there. That is why he was opposed to the trial of McCall. He didn't want the US to view the actions as that of a sovern land.
True he didn't want the trial. But from my understanding he didn't want it cause he was scared the "States" would get word of it and then want to run things there way.He wants to run things like usual. If a guy kills someone with out cause he is then killed himslef and sent to the pigs. No mesing around.At least thats what I get from it. I can't see any bennifit to Al if the US gets more involved.

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Looks like Tolliver (Bella Union boss) may be as ruthless as Sweringer. That was pretty f'd up when he waxed those two kids, but they both had it coming to them I guess. I thought maybe Dan (bartender at the Gem) was going to get upset because he took such a liking to that girl but was surprised to see that he admitted he was caught up in her looks and didn't see her deception. Anyone who watch this regularly wanna tell me what Sweringer's position is on the whole territory/statehood issue? He obviously feels very strongly about keeping Congress away from them (and thereby creating a legal code), but what does last night's news of Indians have to do with this? What was that news exactly?

Remus,I think you have it mixed up. Al WANTS the us to make it a state. By doing so, the indians will be held at bay and the settlers will come into the area. Settlers equal customers and claims on land will become legal title.He wants the US gov there. That is why he was opposed to the trial of McCall. He didn't want the US to view the actions as that of a sovern land.
What was with all the talk of the "vipers" in Washington, D.C. coming in and squeezing Deadwood? I'm referring to the conversation he had with the judge that was appointed to sit on the trial of Jack McCall (the one that ended up not taking place). I guess if what you say is right than he meant what they would do if McCall were tried and executed in Deadwood without any legal authority to do so, but it didn't seem like that was what he was talking about. Maybe I am mistaken, but it seemed like Sweringer wants as little to do with Congress as possible.

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I suppose I could be wrong on my interpretation of the whole thing. I didn't know that it was designated indian territory. I just thought it was undesignated territory. That is what led me to my understanding of the situation.Oh well, I guess I need to watch the WHOLE thing over again.

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I got the same thing as Isle did. I think that Al wants Deadwood recognized, as it would only increase the value of his interests.

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FYIHOLLYWOOD (Reuters) - They really said it -- notable quotes from the news: "Autry would be spinning in his (expletive) grave if he knew the kind of Western we were making on his ranch." --IAN McSHANE, who plays Al Swearengen on HBO's "Deadwood" series, which has a reputation for profanity-filled dialog and is filmed on the late Gene Autry's California ranch, quoted in the New York Daily News.

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I got the same thing as Isle did. I think that Al wants Deadwood recognized, as it would only increase the value of his interests.

That's exactly how I see it, too.Also, someone above mentioned the trial of Jack McCall not taking place. Didn't they try him and acquit him? :confused: Another great episode last night. That Bella Union boss is an evil dude, too, but he lacks the entertainment value of Swearengen- I love every scene that guy is in.Sorry they killed off that young hottie so soon... I thought we were on the verge of some wild west lezbo action.

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Brutal scene when Cy taunts the kids down to their final seconds. "About a foot to the left Flora. What did someone crack your skull?" The girl playing Flora did a great job flipping the switch between sweet, innocent and ruthless, worldly thief. Too bad the kids won't be around longer.Good scene at the end where Joanie is pleading after the quiet desperation that we've seen from her finally breaks.The dude playing Swearengen should be a lock for an Emmy. He's awesome.Joanie & Flora. Damn, so close. Oh so close...

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Also, someone above mentioned the trial of Jack McCall not taking place. Didn't they try him and acquit him? :confused:

That was me. Sorry, I should have said that Swearingen convinced the judge that they could NOT convict him there in Deadwood....

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And what the hell was with Trixie and Swearingen at the end of the show? Didn't see that coming."Now that's how you clean a ####### bloodstain" :D

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Good info on the HBO site-Some quotes from the show: Best Lines

“I'll try touching the moon before working on a whore's thinking. Only know this Trixie - if that woman ain't muddle-headed the next time Farnum sees her, you pay.”

—Swearengen to Trixie

"Her gutter mouth, and the widow in an opium stupor: a conversation for the ages.”

—Calamity Jane and E.B. Farnum

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Are your arms still as useless as a dead guys d**k??-Jane :rotflmao:

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The dude playing Swearengen should be a lock for an Emmy. He's awesome.

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Just watched this week's episode again......I have to say the guy portraying EB Farnum does an excellent job with his character. Each week the guy gets more interesting/intriguing. When the show started out, all I could picture was the "Daryl" character from the Newhart show, now he's stealing the scenes he's in with Deadwood.

http://www.brmovie.com/Images/Characters/J..._Is_Worried.jpgHe'll always be JF Sebastian to me.

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Just watched this week's episode again......I have to say the guy portraying EB Farnum does an excellent job with his character.  Each week the guy gets more interesting/intriguing.  When the show started out, all I could picture was the "Daryl" character from the Newhart show, now he's stealing the scenes he's in with Deadwood.

http://www.brmovie.com/Images/Characters/J..._Is_Worried.jpgHe'll always be JF Sebastian to me.
:rotflmao: at EB nominating himself as Mayor......"ad hoc"

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The dude playing Swearengen should be a lock for an Emmy. He's awesome.

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:yes::thumbup::yes: Agree 100%. If he does not at least get a nomination, there should be an investigation.

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I had to laugh when Al got the guy so scared that he just climbed over the railing by himself. :rotflmao: 2 #### sucker :lol:

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