Just a gut feeling but I really think Murray sits this week. With the bye coming up week 8 they can give him two weeks to try to get his hammy right and I think the Tenn brass feel they can beat Cleveland without Murray's help. This might just be wishful thinking because I own Henry and want to see what he can do with 20 carries.
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SameSongNDance
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I just can't get over the size of this guy's head. It's like his helmet is novelty sized.
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
I hope you're wrong, but news blurb I read this morning suggests Murray could sit. Guy I am playing this week has Henry stashed in his bench. He already got a monster game from Carr that offset the monster game by Amari Cooper. The dude is already sporting Ajayi and Gurley at RB, and can easily slide Demariyus Thomas from flex to WR to make room for Henry. I'm shocked he is 1-5!conlilnew said:
TheDirtyWord
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I've been a little surprised at the reaction to the Murray/Henry split concerns this week.
1) Yes, Henry's stats were bolstered by the 72-yard TD run. But who is to say in the next game, he doesn't average 5 YPC instead of 3+ (outside of the big one Monday) with his workload?
2) The Titans have played 6 games this year, Henry has put up viable 'starting line-up' numbers in 3 of them. Of the three he didn't - a) one was Week 1 - always a squirrelly week b) one was a the game in HOU where the Titans abandoned the run game early because they were blown out and c) the last was a game in which the coaches commentary after it was 'not involving Henry enough couldn't happen again'. And in the next game - Henry got 20 touches..
Game flow certainly favored the run game against IND, but I think the bottomline is that TEN has the ability to have 2 viable starting FF backs - different set-up than a team like the Falcons with Freeman/Coleman...but startable nonetheless, particularly if your league has a FLEX.
1) Yes, Henry's stats were bolstered by the 72-yard TD run. But who is to say in the next game, he doesn't average 5 YPC instead of 3+ (outside of the big one Monday) with his workload?
2) The Titans have played 6 games this year, Henry has put up viable 'starting line-up' numbers in 3 of them. Of the three he didn't - a) one was Week 1 - always a squirrelly week b) one was a the game in HOU where the Titans abandoned the run game early because they were blown out and c) the last was a game in which the coaches commentary after it was 'not involving Henry enough couldn't happen again'. And in the next game - Henry got 20 touches..
Game flow certainly favored the run game against IND, but I think the bottomline is that TEN has the ability to have 2 viable starting FF backs - different set-up than a team like the Falcons with Freeman/Coleman...but startable nonetheless, particularly if your league has a FLEX.
oddsbodkins
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Team Smokin'
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000864325/article/derrick-henry-ready-for-bigger-role-with-murray-outkyoun1e said:
Murray out, ratchet up Henry for a big game against a stout rushing D so far...
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kneeshooter
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Don't know why he has the article titled that way when it is not confirmed he is out. He even says as much in the article itself:
"Murray sat out practice the previous two days while dealing with a hamstring issue, and the team is in wait-and-see mode with the starting running back heading into Sunday's game versus the Cleveland Browns."
Cowboysfan8
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Fake news
Read the article, it says Titans are in wait and see mode for Sunday for Murray
I got excited wtf
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Why would you attempt to correct a stat?
Here's the expected leading rushers against them each week
Miller 41 yards
Powell 5 yards (yes five)
Mixon 29 yards
Gore 57 yards
Allen 66 yards
Bell 32 yards
oddsbodkins
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Yes, we've seen those stats in this thread before and I agreed with you. I just said since the games are usually close or in hand, the chance for a big day is always there. Just hasn't happened yet but we're not even halfway through the season yet.
cantstop1999
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The one thing I see different about Henry from those other backs is his size and power, he’s different, a complete bull, I think Henry could have a nice day. I’m not the coach but it would make sense to rest him for 2 weeks and crank up Henry.
Bell is also a big boy but, it was his first week back and no preseason or training camp. As you seen it has taken him weeks to get going.
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Chaka
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Those are impressive stats for sure but from my perspective Henry is twice the RB as any of those guys (Bell obviously is league MVP caliber but not in week 1 after missing all off season and TC). And Henry has a significantly better offensive line than all but Pittsburgh.
I agree people should be cautious but there appear to be some significant differences, on paper, from my perspective.
sneakerfreak
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Has Murray ever sat out a game with the Titans so Henry was the lead back?
The General
Footballguy
Delanie Walker also is dinged up so if Murray sits this is setting up really nicely.
Murray got a little practice in today but hopefully he rests.
In the action I have seen of the Titans I though Murray looked pretty decent, respect him trying to play. But, take a rest dude. Kick back a little and enjoy not getting hit this weeekend.
Murray got a little practice in today but hopefully he rests.
In the action I have seen of the Titans I though Murray looked pretty decent, respect him trying to play. But, take a rest dude. Kick back a little and enjoy not getting hit this weeekend.
ATB
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If you took both Miller and Foreman's totals there were actually pretty darn good. Look at my post with more comprehensive data above.
Saying CLE is a "stout" run D based on just the overall production from the RBs is shoddy analysis. You have to take the opponent and some of the circumstances (i.e. Bell with no preseason games under his belt).
Are they terrible? I doubt it.
Another consideration will be game flow. It will favor TN. Especially now that J. McCourty is questionable after banging up his ankle in practice today.
And oh...they probably don't want Mariota to run. And D. Walker questionable now with a calf injury...no TE sweeps for him.
If Murray is out, and you have Henry, and you bench him...big, big mistake.
Not including Foreman's totals:
* MIller: 15-49
* Foreman: 12- 59
* Total: 27 - 108
If that was one RB...Lamar Foreman...I'd take that...along with Miller's 3 receptions for 40 yards.
CLE run D is being slightly overrated by the so called "experts" who aren't peeling the onion back just one layer.
There wasn't just one statement.
I had mentioned that 3.0 ypc is tied for lowest allowed in the NFL
Thanks for the insult though
No, just in preseason. BUT
Murray said this "It’s very frustrating, but I have to take it one day at a time,” Murray said of the injury. “No matter what the situation is, if it’s something I can play through or fight through I am going to try and do it, and worry about the aftermath when it is done, no matter what the repercussions may be."
“We’ll see how I feel. I’m going to get a good warmup in before the game and see how I feel and then make a decision from there.”
During preseason, he said almost the same thing- grumpy tone with no concern about if it makes him worse off. It was as if Mularkey read the quote, was displeased, and benched him on Saturday.
Chaka
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Guy used to be Fragile Fred now he morphed into...Fred Taylor.
From a pure football perspective you have to love a guy who is willing to tough it out and do anything on the field. However I also see it as a bit selfish if playing at a significantly diminished capacity negatively impacts the team.
From a pure football perspective you have to love a guy who is willing to tough it out and do anything on the field. However I also see it as a bit selfish if playing at a significantly diminished capacity negatively impacts the team.
Chaka
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cantstop1999
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He was limited, so I believe he’s trending toward playing,unfortunately
msommer
Footballguy
They have Jonnu Smith who despite being a rookie is capable. Let's not get carried away.
hamsterdam
Footballguy
Anybody committed to starting Henry even if Murray plays?
Either him or Funchess for me in the flex.
Either him or Funchess for me in the flex.
Me. I’ve had him in even before today once they announced Murray’s tight hammy. Just feels like the play this week all things considered.
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Chaka
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LionOfGosforth
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No chance for me, tried it week 3 with garbage results. Depends on your options though, in your case I would think about it. I'm starting Duke Johnson over him unless I know Murray is definitely out.
I'm in on Henry this week. My only other option was Lynch and we saw what happened there. I'm saying 80 yds rushing with two short TD's. Even if Murray plays don't you think it would be mostly on passing downs.
shadyridr
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The Finist
Footballguy
Murray inactive = start henry
Murray active = start doug martin
Murray active = start doug martin
The General
Footballguy
I’m on the Henry train if Murray out.
If not Mark Ingram.
If not Mark Ingram.
TartanLion
Footballguy
I have Martin, Kamara and McKinnon in over him right now. If Murray sits I'll start him over McKinnon
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Injuries mounting so he's in over Mixon and Kelvin if Murray sits.
cantstop1999
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Murray won’t sit
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Cowboysfan8
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I have Murray n Henry. Idk what I'm doing. Last time Murray was highly qu I started Henry who did crap n Murray killed it ?
shadyridr
Footballguy
there is no presser on Saturday. There are usually guessers on ff sites- because that's what we want them to do- but don't leap like it's news.
Jim Wyatt will absolutely have ya covered here. He does a periscope pregame. If there are no updates, he always guesses using his 20? years of reporting experience based on how guys warm up. AFAIK he's never been wrong with his guesses and I've been reading him for what seems like decades.
Players with hammies are often announced as out on Saturday. They give it a go Friday and the muscle doesn't recover well. If that's the case, Wyatt and Glennon are traveling with the team.
I'll pass along any info I see- as I've done for 14 years here- but I have a lot of plans today and I'm not likely to be quick to the punch
Jim Wyatt will absolutely have ya covered here. He does a periscope pregame. If there are no updates, he always guesses using his 20? years of reporting experience based on how guys warm up. AFAIK he's never been wrong with his guesses and I've been reading him for what seems like decades.
Players with hammies are often announced as out on Saturday. They give it a go Friday and the muscle doesn't recover well. If that's the case, Wyatt and Glennon are traveling with the team.
I'll pass along any info I see- as I've done for 14 years here- but I have a lot of plans today and I'm not likely to be quick to the punch
This is probably the best I can do today: Everyone doesn't always text or call me back
Mularkey used Murray in a limited role on Friday where he dictated exactly what Murray would do. He was pleased and (the firey, I gotta play) Murray was content. One reporter told me he expects that Sunday and thinks it was a test-run.
Jalston Fowler had more snaps at RB than anyone else this week. (Short week with MNF) He is expected to get some backup carries this week.
The Titans feel the Browns are weakest up the middle against the run and quite strong outside.
I asked "shift the RB to the outside as usual" and he said "probably."
Mularkey used Murray in a limited role on Friday where he dictated exactly what Murray would do. He was pleased and (the firey, I gotta play) Murray was content. One reporter told me he expects that Sunday and thinks it was a test-run.
Jalston Fowler had more snaps at RB than anyone else this week. (Short week with MNF) He is expected to get some backup carries this week.
The Titans feel the Browns are weakest up the middle against the run and quite strong outside.
I asked "shift the RB to the outside as usual" and he said "probably."
The General
Footballguy
Certainly sounds like Murray is playing.
buck naked
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