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They had all season. This won’t change anything.Man he shoulda had 5. Hope they have now figured out that Dion Lewis isn’t the answer.
They had all season. This won’t change anything.Man he shoulda had 5. Hope they have now figured out that Dion Lewis isn’t the answer.
As you can tell from my posts I would say leap at any decent offer but if he leaves he is a hold.Curious what this does to his dynasty trade value. A week or two ago guys were arguing he wasn’t worth a third but I imagine that ship has sailed. Wish I’d had an opportunity to buy at that price. Only team I’ve got holding him is out of the hunt and I’m holding anyway.
before I gloat too much I’m sure vrabel will run Lewis into the A gap all game next week
That's kinda awesome that you get Derrick Henry to set your fantasy lineup for you.I hate this POS. Sitting on my bench while Fournette is ensuring a first round playoff exit.
I disagree. Even if LaFleur stays, no guarantee, I think he may come to the realization that he may have a Gurley type (NOT GURLEY) bellcow on hand and decide to treat him that way.As you can tell from my posts I would say leap at any decent offer but if he leaves he is a hold.
Obviously his play last few weeks can change the way the Titans view him but Mort did report he was shopped near the deadline. And it was the two games after the deadline that we saw Dion get bigger loads. It's as if they decided they wanted to feature Dion but then realized things were not working out.But like I said, unless he leaves TN he is a dead man walking.
Hi LeftCoastHeel,Can someone explain to me what the hell just happened? PLEASE??????
Ballsy start. Still I simply don't understand the outcome. Does he suck and this is dumb luck or do all the coaches need to be fired?Hi LeftCoastHeel,
When the Titians are favored, Henry has gone off for weeks and weeks. When the Titians are underdogs Henry is a dog. Go back and look at the Vegas line. When the Titians are dogs, so is Henry. When the Titians are favored, Henry has a great game. Not that anyone could have expected this, but Henry was likely to score this week as the Titians were favored by 5. I started him over Dalvin Cook.
I don't think a guy who looked this good last night you can say sucks. It's impossible. Saints should trade a second for him to replace Ingram.Ballsy start. Still I simply don't understand the outcome. Does he suck and this is dumb luck or do all the coaches need to be fired?
In my line of work, if this happened 14 games into the season, you'd have to seriously evaluate each scenario.
I didn't see the game. Someone needs to be fired it seems like. I drafted this guy in several leagues... benched him on all my FFPC Championship teams that made it that far. He cost me plenty of high stakes teams. This is ridiculous.I don't think a guy who looked this good last night you can say sucks. It's impossible. Saints should trade a second for him to replace Ingram.
I hate this POS. Sitting on my bench while Fournette is ensuring a first round playoff exit.
Favored Games:Hi LeftCoastHeel,
When the Titians are favored, Henry has gone off for weeks and weeks. When the Titians are underdogs Henry is a dog. Go back and look at the Vegas line. When the Titians are dogs, so is Henry. When the Titians are favored, Henry has a great game. Not that anyone could have expected this, but Henry was likely to score this week as the Titians were favored by 5. I started him over Dalvin Cook.
Yeah. An underperforming bum judging by the vast majority of this thread. I get to get bounced from this bum since my opponent has gordon injured. Let's see how you'd react watching your playoff hopes get dashed on a Thursday.bum? Are we watching the same game?
the best RB in high school history, the former Heisman winner, and the guy coached by Barry's RB coach and who works out with Eddie George just waved to the NFLCan someone explain to me what the hell just happened? PLEASE??????
Coaches. We have had several arguments where people say "so now two staffs don't play him enough" and the others say they saw him play and stuff like thatHenry looked absolutely amazing. He ran over defender after defender. It blows my mind how he can look this good in a game and not be an every week dominate rb. If all you knew about Henry was tonights game you would think he is one of the very best rb's in the NFL.
So is Henry's lack of production based on his coaches not utilizing him correctly, on Henry being inconsistend or something else?
I cut him by like week 5.Still glad I traded this guy for peanuts in redraft.
As shown in the other Henry thread detailing odds and the results for each game over the last 2 years, this simply isn't true. There's no correlation at all showing that Henry has great games when the Titans are favored. His games are very much mixed with most of them being poor.Hi LeftCoastHeel,
When the Titians are favored, Henry has gone off for weeks and weeks. When the Titians are underdogs Henry is a dog. Go back and look at the Vegas line. When the Titians are dogs, so is Henry. When the Titians are favored, Henry has a great game. Not that anyone could have expected this, but Henry was likely to score this week as the Titians were favored by 5. I started him over Dalvin Cook.
Titans history and common NFL history is that LaFleur stays since OCs usually get two years minimum. Fans and writers all think he should be doneI disagree. Even if LaFleur stays, no guarantee, I think he may come to the realization that he may have a Gurley type (NOT GURLEY) bellcow on hand and decide to treat him that way.
Hell if Norvan can adapt and do what he's doing in Carolina then maybe LaFleur can too.
@Bri thoughts?
I think that's when I traded him. Basically a throw it. Felt great to get rid of him.I cut him by like week 5.
Nope. Dorsett went "99 yards and 2 feet"Faust said:
So Kamara and Henry owners can watch each others' heads explode?tombonneau said:I don't think a guy who looked this good last night you can say sucks. It's impossible. Saints should trade a second for him to replace Ingram.
This x 1,000,000. He's huge and fast, his game is wearing down defenses. I drafted him this year in every league I could because I was convinced (and still am) if Tenn would just give him the ball 20ish times per game he'd be a low end RB1. Same thing that it took the Saints 4 freaking years to figure out with Ingram. Feed him the ball over and over and over again and let the man do his work.Lewis is a good back in small doses; Henry is a great back in large doses. Henry may have five carries for 0 yards and then bust a 50 yarder. You have to keep feeding him. The Titans should fire someone--either the OC or the HC or both--for ignoring the talent they had.
a big talented back can do just that. I blame pigheaded coaches for wanting to run their system over wanting to run their best back.This x 1,000,000. He's huge and fast, his game is wearing down defenses. I drafted him this year in every league I could because I was convinced (and still am) if Tenn would just give him the ball 20ish times per game he'd be a low end RB1. Same thing that it took the Saints 4 freaking years to figure out with Ingram. Feed him the ball over and over and over again and let the man do his work.
I own them both.So Kamara and Henry owners can watch each others' heads explode?
Looking back on that 99-yarder, 84 didn't exactly seal the deal with his downfield block at the end haha.Lewis is a good back in small doses; Henry is a great back in large doses. Henry may have five carries for 0 yards and then bust a 50 yarder. You have to keep feeding him. The Titans should fire someone--either the OC or the HC or both--for ignoring the talent they had.
This is the full highlights of all his runs in the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjeLOrojZwE
Anyone who has watched Henry run is not really surprised to see he could do this because he has done it since his rookie year. He has the best stiff arm of any back I can recall. And he has great speed for a guy so big. He also has great lateral quickness for such a big guy, which you see on the run where he starts up the middle and then moves to the right to get around the corner and none of the defenders can move quickly enough to close it down. This guy is a special combination of size and speed and he should get the ball 15-25 times per game.
Conk hasn't done well. Kelly has actually done better this year.Conklin going to miss "a few games" and Jonnu Smith done for the year.
Ha, Thx. This one is so puzzling to me.Bri said:the best RB in high school history, the former Heisman winner, and the guy coached by Barry's RB coach and who works out with Eddie George just waved to the NFL
Not sure, find it hard to trust him myself. It's not like we did not see something similar earlier this year with Crowell.Is he going to have another good game over the next two games? Or was this a total fluke?
Good, probably. Great, no, doubtful.Is he going to have another good game over the next two games? Or was this a total fluke?
What consistent success has Vrabel had as a coach? By his own standard, he should be fired. My guess is it won't be until after next year and then Vrabel will get his just return.Good, probably. Great, no, doubtful.
It appears LaFleur has botched the zone blocking system that the Rams use and he and the OL coach have just mangled it.
The Titans have a regular pro bowler at LT, an all pro/pro bowler at RT, and a G that only allows a sack every nine games and still can pull off pancakes in the NFL. They WERE one of the best lines in football, joining the Cowboys, but this new staff has wrecked that.
Dion Lewis had more carries than Henry despite his success. Don't underestimate Vrabel's anxiousness to show the world his ego and tell everyone he knows best.
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Vrabel was asked how Henry’s performance on Thursday might change how the team approaches things in the run game going forward.
“Well, if you could promise that same type of success our past meetings would've been pretty short,” Vrabel said. “The one thing that is great about this league is you have to do it every week. You have to be able to consistently come out and do the things that you feel like are a strength.
“Just because you had one good game one week, or you had a couple of sacks, or had a couple tackles, or threw a couple of touchdown passes, you have to come back each and every week and prove it.”
Henry now has 712 yards and nine touchdowns on 145 carries on the season for the Titans.
Running back Dion Lewis has 477 yards and a touchdown on his 145 carries.
“Derrick will have all the opportunity to continue to do that, and to help us,” Vrabel said. “His attitude and his preparation has remained consistent and that was always good to see. So we’ll try and keep that going. Obviously we have to try and keep that going.”
Yup... my thought precisely on Crowell.Not sure, find it hard to trust him myself. It's not like we did not see something similar earlier this year with Crowell.
Good info. Feel like this guy is totally cutting words...... What a vagina.Good, probably. Great, no, doubtful.
It appears LaFleur has botched the zone blocking system that the Rams use and he and the OL coach have just mangled it.
The Titans have a regular pro bowler at LT, an all pro/pro bowler at RT, and a G that only allows a sack every nine games and still can pull off pancakes in the NFL. They WERE one of the best lines in football, joining the Cowboys, but this new staff has wrecked that.
Dion Lewis had more carries than Henry despite his success. Don't underestimate Vrabel's anxiousness to show the world his ego and tell everyone he knows best.
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Vrabel was asked how Henry’s performance on Thursday might change how the team approaches things in the run game going forward.
“Well, if you could promise that same type of success our past meetings would've been pretty short,” Vrabel said. “The one thing that is great about this league is you have to do it every week. You have to be able to consistently come out and do the things that you feel like are a strength.
“Just because you had one good game one week, or you had a couple of sacks, or had a couple tackles, or threw a couple of touchdown passes, you have to come back each and every week and prove it.”
Henry now has 712 yards and nine touchdowns on 145 carries on the season for the Titans.
Running back Dion Lewis has 477 yards and a touchdown on his 145 carries.
“Derrick will have all the opportunity to continue to do that, and to help us,” Vrabel said. “His attitude and his preparation has remained consistent and that was always good to see. So we’ll try and keep that going. Obviously we have to try and keep that going.”
I am probably one of the stronger Dion Lewis apologists on this board (he looked as good as any RB in the league his breakout season with NE) but if that isn’t a cut and dried “one of these guys should be getting more carries than the other” I don’t know what isHenry now has 712 yards and nine touchdowns on 145 carries on the season for the Titans.
Running back Dion Lewis has 477 yards and a touchdown on his 145 carries.
And Dion might benefit from it, evenI am probably one of the stronger Dion Lewis apologists on this board (he looked as good as any RB in the league his breakout season with NE) but if that isn’t a cut and dried “one of these guys should be getting more carries than the other” I don’t know what is
And quite possibly Henry benefited from it Thursday.And Dion might benefit from it, even