I didn't like Asiata in comparison to McKinnon last year but my appreciation for what Asiata can do has grown quite a bit since then.
The who evaluation of talent thing is a bit baffling to me. Every player is talented. Some in more ways than others. Players who cannot even make a NFL roster have proven to be great starters when given the opportunity. This tells me that the talent level even outside of the NFL is very high.
So I don't think we are talking about different levels of talent that are clear or distinguishable. All of the players are very close in talent compared to each other. It is more about all the little things that makes a player a pro instead of a back up. That makes a good football player not just a talent. The margins in talent are very small, the skills such as blocking, situational awareness are more important when there are many players of near the same level of talent.
I agree.... and I didn't think you really compared the two, I was just using an extreme example.
You know, there is one other factor, and I hardly,
hardly ever, ever see it in print, when it comes to this.
I think there is a difference when it comes down to outright luck for players also.... especially right when they come into the league or in certain "game changing" situations early in their careers. I'm not saying certain players are "luckier" than others really, follow me on this.
Give any 2 WRs a random sampling of say 3 games, and in the short term one will have better numbers than the other.
Call it what you will.
Think about a "fair" WR, that is thrust upon a big stage several times in a season, whether it is several Monday Night Football televised games, or a couple of playoff games. If he "gets a bit lucky" and makes a handful of huge plays for the world to see, (and suppose the rest of his numbers are middle of the pack) he has likely landed himself a HUGE contract going forward.
A good example may well be Mike Wallace.
I know he had a few big catches on nationally televised Steeler games early in his career, from Big Ben too, a "better than average" QB.
He is hardly deserving of all that money he gets, and his numbers have slowly seemed to dwindle.
Imagine a player like Gary Barnidge, this "decent player" got a few extra targets early this year (for a variety of reasons), and he did very well with them.
Can we say he was never that talented before now? I hardly think he somehow took a "talent pill" and grew into a solid player overnight after being in the league all this time.
He happened to get all those extra targets, and then he had the "butt catch".
He was likely a little bit "lucky" on these targets, and then it grew into a bigger role for him and he has capitalized. Realize I am not being negative, just calling it for what it likely is.
I liken it to the "Trent Richardson scenario". He looked pretty good when he was at Cleveland in his rookie year.
Sure he wasn't a game changer, but he was solid.
One would think , that coupled with his "mediocre-to-good" numbers the whole season, he got lucky on a few of those screen passes that year, and had big lanes, and it inflated his numbers.
Then as time went on, Cleveland in fact realized that he wasn't really that talented, they offed him to the Colts and the rest is history.
The names we could list like this is probably a close to endless list.
How does this correlate to West?
I don't believe him to be special by any means, but I think he is definitely startable down the stretch in the right matchups.
He has the coaching behind him, so unless he is just awful, he will likely be the starter the rest of the year.
We could all probably use his RB2-ish numbers down the stretch....and bench him in the bad matchups.
I for one don't mind having several of these guys on my fantasy teams and mixing and matching my way to decent numbers.
TZM