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The Official Kicker (K) Thread (5 Viewers)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Scobee will get better. If you add it up he should have had 10-11 points. He had a tough time getting traded and lining it up on opening night in Foxboro in bad weather on short notice. He will improve.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
A holder getting pulled is not a good sign for a holder. But then again that's a chemistry thing and nearly all kickers work with the same holder for a full summer and even the spring.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
purestrength
Footballguy
McManus is saving (hopefully) a couple of my Peyton-QB'd teams.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Hocker was great today, drilled everything.
Vinatieri got zeroed.
Vinatieri got zeroed.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Carpenter likely bought himself another week
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
Are you guys holding Parkey?
I'm looking at Hocker, Santos, and McManus as potential replacements. Parkey missing kicks in a dome doesn't sit well with me.
I'm looking at Hocker, Santos, and McManus as potential replacements. Parkey missing kicks in a dome doesn't sit well with me.
No reason to hold any kicker who misses consistently, IMO. Hocker is playing for a team that should move really well between the 20s, and get bogged down with no credible red zone options. Plus he kicks in a dome.
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George Jefferson Airplane
Footballguy
McManus at elevation and with Methuselah at Qb seems like a strong play.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
I am not a huge supporter of McManus. (even though I like his situation this year, is Denver really going to struggle??)
Remember McManus was waived by Denver during last season when he was, umm, er..... "inconsistent".
Sure I get the whole "he is better this year" angle, or whatever they want to spew.
I buy in the whole "snag a kicker on a good but not great offense that stalls in red zone" type thinking.
But if I can actually combine that with one in a dome, or who is known for being accurate then its win-win and I want to take the bitter with the sweet.
You may like McManus, but I would think that for a young/inconsistent kicker, that Arrowhead may well be the hardest place anywhere to kick.
(Seattle may be another though, with their unreal noise too)
So I doubt I would go with him this week anyway, and maybe hope for him later in the season.
Especially if Denver does indeed find itself struggling like they did this past week.
I certainly wouldn't drop him for Bailey, who is on everyone's top 5 list on most all sites, and for the most part rated #1 this week.
I would think Robbie Gould is a good play this week @ home vs. Arizona.
The Giants kicker Josh Brown may well be a good play for 2 weeks...... @ home both times vs. ATL and WAS.
TZM
Remember McManus was waived by Denver during last season when he was, umm, er..... "inconsistent".
Sure I get the whole "he is better this year" angle, or whatever they want to spew.
I buy in the whole "snag a kicker on a good but not great offense that stalls in red zone" type thinking.
But if I can actually combine that with one in a dome, or who is known for being accurate then its win-win and I want to take the bitter with the sweet.
You may like McManus, but I would think that for a young/inconsistent kicker, that Arrowhead may well be the hardest place anywhere to kick.
(Seattle may be another though, with their unreal noise too)
So I doubt I would go with him this week anyway, and maybe hope for him later in the season.
Especially if Denver does indeed find itself struggling like they did this past week.
I certainly wouldn't drop him for Bailey, who is on everyone's top 5 list on most all sites, and for the most part rated #1 this week.
I would think Robbie Gould is a good play this week @ home vs. Arizona.
The Giants kicker Josh Brown may well be a good play for 2 weeks...... @ home both times vs. ATL and WAS.
TZM
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LawFitz
Footballguy
I get your concern about McManus himself, but his situation looks pretty solid. Offense that moves, but seems prone to stalling. Defense that plays lights out. Kicker with a big leg and half his games in mile high air. All of those factors seems like a nice storm for kicker production, assuming Manning or McManus don't implode.TZMarkie said:
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He's not? Hmm...maybe this is just semantics? When I say someone is just a guy, I mean they're not really a difference maker in FF terms. Do you have a different definition?
Last year he was K22 in our league, which uses pretty standard scoring for kicking (+4 40-49, +5 50+.) He was K19 the year before. I don't know where he ranked as a rookie but with 26 XP-23 FG-95 PTS I'm sure was near the bottom.
He missed 8 FGs as a rookie (74%) and 6 last year (80%.) Three of his misses last year were inside 40 yards. His career FG% is 82.4%, which ranks 16th among active kickers. He's never been in the top ten for FGA, XP or points scored.
From a production standpoint, he is epitome of below average? Is he talented? Absolutely. One of the strongest legs in the league, I acknowledged that in my post. But his accuracy is just so-so. Most importantly from a FF perspective, he's never had more than 31 FGA. League leaders are usually around 35-40+, and in FF those are the guys you should be targeting.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Good (not great) week for McManus, 9 points in most formats thanks to the 54 yarder. High powered offense Ks usually don't get enough attempts, but after two weeks it's pretty obvious Peyton is nearing the end. I expect Denver to have more FGAs this year than past seasons.
Keep him for another week. He was erratic last year but several reports that he changed his technique in the off-season. Kid definitely has range.
Keep him for another week. He was erratic last year but several reports that he changed his technique in the off-season. Kid definitely has range.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm watching Zeuerlein.... with Foles running things and that defense he might get some a lot of FGAs, which is what he has always lacked.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I'm not getting off untill he stops nailing 3 or 4 a night. He's got a big leg and can smash balls deep. Fantasy stud.
BTW, 10 years of fantasy have convinced me that the only method of predicting future kicker performance with any validity is looking at what they've already done that season. The basically means you're flying blind for the next few weeks. At that point, find the Top 5 guy who nobody owns (e.g., Catanzaro last year) and ride him as long as you can.
Of course, even that isn't foolproof. Catanzaro became a lot less useful last year when AZ's offense fell apart. But it's better than anything else.
Of course, even that isn't foolproof. Catanzaro became a lot less useful last year when AZ's offense fell apart. But it's better than anything else.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Def grab McManus if he's out there.
Not sure he'll have a high number of attempts but I'm impressed with Meyers. Gould has some good momentum.
Not sure he'll have a high number of attempts but I'm impressed with Meyers. Gould has some good momentum.
Based solely on that criteria, here's who I'm targeting this week in my 16-team league after waivers have cleared, with their ranks so far:
Robbie Gould (1)
Josh Brown (3)
Kyle Brindza (9)
I'll re-evaluate after Week 4 and determine if it's worth changing again. After that point the top guys are generally owned.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Brindza looked very, very good. He nailed a long kick, he did miss on another but otherwise you can see why the Bucs traded for him.
Hocker................ may not be long for this world.
Hocker................ may not be long for this world.
The General
Footballguy
Scooby week 1, dropped for Hocker this week. I am like the grim reaper for kickers.
Either Josh Brown and Old Man Gould are my targets this week. Yo have been warned.
Either Josh Brown and Old Man Gould are my targets this week. Yo have been warned.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Football Menace
Footballguy
X2
I've had the curse for years. I could have a championship team otherwise, but my kicker is always total trash. Going after Brown myself this week. So you guys have been double warned.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Vinatieri has been a dumpster fire of a pick.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I have no idea what to do with him. Thought he would be solid coming into the year. He fit my 2 big criteria of having a late bye and playing in a dome. But 1 point through 2 weeks is awful. Don't want to drop him because the offense could get going at any point, but it's getting harder to stick with him.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Thought I was pretty sly picking him up in my draft after several K's had been taken and seeing him boot a 55 yard er in preseason (range was questionable). As I'm sure for everyone, he's killed me.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Parkey has been awful as well. Few misses lumped in with a mess of an offense.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
No you're not. You might have picked out a random name and maybe there's an element of logic to it, but I guarantee you haven't watched him kick this year.
He missed a 47 yarder this week. Missed a PAT the week before He is consistently short on his kickoffs (6 returns so far.) He's just not that great.
IMHO YMMV
Andrew74
Footballguy
You're right, I haven't. I was looking for some consistency in scoring in the FA pool on a decent offense. Thx for the eyewitness feedback.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Lambo plays in a good reliable offense. He has something like the 2nd most FGAs and IIRC he's missed one.
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thecardiackid
Footballguy
dumping hocker - can't believe how bad NO looks.
I think I like legatron vs. PIT at home week 3
I think I like legatron vs. PIT at home week 3
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Rolling with the Nugent this week, dropped Scobee snacks cuz I got that cat scratch fever right now thanks to SWC brochachos
chad in Indy
Footballguy
With AZ looking strong, I'm going Catanzaro this week
I ended up dropping Vinatieri and picking up Catanzaro from Arizona. Arizona's offense has looked great so far and has another great matchup this weekend against SanFran. Indy has just been a mess. If I need to stream kickers later on, so be it....but it makes no sense to keep using a kicker on a team that's struggling, imo.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
They are.
But Kickalicious is awesome.
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