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Thoughts on Walsh going forward? I need to drop Bailey for someone and It's short bench so would prefer this to be my last kicking move of the year (transaction cost league)
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Buzzbait
Footballguy
Current kicker is Tucker but Bryant just became available. Tucker has a bye coming up in week 10 so thinking of a preemptive move and dumping for Bryant. Both are playing on weak offenses but Atlanta has a higher ceiling than Baltimore. Can't keep both & if I don't do this I'll have to dump Tucker in two more weeks for another kicker.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Own bryant ( held him through his bye)-- and he's been awful... 3 straight ####ty weeks with a bye mixed in.
I guess you could say the bounce back is coming
TartanLion
Footballguy
Feel the same way about Succup as others have said about Legatron. Think I'm still going to have to drop him though, no room on bench to carry an extra kicker as I've been forward planning in other positions for a terrible week 9 where I have Brady/Cooks/Hogan all out.
I guess the answer is simply dependent on what condition your bench is in and what else you need to stock on it
I guess the answer is simply dependent on what condition your bench is in and what else you need to stock on it
Moonshine
Footballguy
My plan for the upcoming week regarding kickers, which might be helpful for those in a similar league (yahoo leagues without "invalid" roster restrictions, meaning I won't be slapped with an "invalid roster" error by not starting a player in a position, in this case kicker, and where bye week players are free to pick up until the end of the Monday night game):
I'm planning to pick up Butker from KC at some point this week (dropping Matt Bryant), with the expectation that Zurlein and Succop will be on the WW through the weekend on their bye week. When Monday night arrives, if my match-up is out of hand either way (I'm so far up or so far down that a kicker likely won't matter), I'll drop Butker and pick up Zurlein/Succop before the bye week players lock when the Monday night game begins. It means I'll get a big fat 0 at the kicker spot, but who cares because my match-up was so far out of hand it wouldn't have mattered anyways.
Butker is more than serviceable on his own, so if I'm forced to play him, no big deal, then I'll look to pick up one of Zurlein/Succop/Elliot come next week, hoping one is still available come then.
So I can essentially wait until the last minute to decide if I really need a kicker this week, or if I can pick up one of those top flight guys on their bye and take a zero at the position for the week.
I'm planning to pick up Butker from KC at some point this week (dropping Matt Bryant), with the expectation that Zurlein and Succop will be on the WW through the weekend on their bye week. When Monday night arrives, if my match-up is out of hand either way (I'm so far up or so far down that a kicker likely won't matter), I'll drop Butker and pick up Zurlein/Succop before the bye week players lock when the Monday night game begins. It means I'll get a big fat 0 at the kicker spot, but who cares because my match-up was so far out of hand it wouldn't have mattered anyways.
Butker is more than serviceable on his own, so if I'm forced to play him, no big deal, then I'll look to pick up one of Zurlein/Succop/Elliot come next week, hoping one is still available come then.
So I can essentially wait until the last minute to decide if I really need a kicker this week, or if I can pick up one of those top flight guys on their bye and take a zero at the position for the week.
BobbyLayne
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I like Elliott as the top K this week.
RoS I think you’d have to favor Butker since there’s still a chance Caleb Sturgis takes his job back when he’s off IR in a couple weeks, but both have been outstanding. The KC K is #1 on a PPG basis as well as 3.50 FGA.
Pit has given up 8 FGA in 7 G, Detroit is without its best playmaker, and the only healthy lineman (LT) might be the worst starting o-lineman in the NFL. 2.0 FGA /g is pretty far down the list.
Great insight there. The rest of season argument for Prater over those two would have to be the dome aspect vs cold weather. I think all of Butker’s remaining games, other than at Dallas next week, are outdoors in typically colder climates.
VikingFrog
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What are Gostkowski owners doing next week? For some reason I felt like he’s been underperforming, but just checked and he’s #3 kicker
Not a ton of separation between the #3 kicker and the #12 kicker so not sure I wouldn’t mind streaming.
likely wouldn’t get him back due to the name brand.
Anyone holding?
Not a ton of separation between the #3 kicker and the #12 kicker so not sure I wouldn’t mind streaming.
likely wouldn’t get him back due to the name brand.
Anyone holding?
BobbyLayne
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KC has 4 of 5 at home Weeks 12-16. Chiefs homers can chime in but the average high in December for KC is 40, only the LAC game is st night. He’s got two games at MetLife (Weeks 11 & 13) but the wind is not as swirling / unpredictable as it was at Giants Stadium.
Huge void in the FF world since Mike Herman / Kickology faded away a few years ago. If anybody was looking for a niche...
Buzzbait
Footballguy
His last two weeks (3 if you held thru the bye as you did) have been bad. 1-4 on FGs with 4 XPs. I dropped Tucker for Bryant for two reasons:packer_junkie said:
1) Tucker still has his bye coming up in week 10. I don't have the luxury of holding two kickers on my roster so I made a preemptive strike two weeks early for Bryant, Stats to date for each are Bryant 10-13 FGs and 14-14 XP with Tucker 13-15 and 11-11. Not much difference. If I held Tucker for two more weeks I didn't know what would be available and didn't want to be left holding the bag with a worse kicker for the playoffs.
2) Tucker is obviously more talented but Baltimore's offense stinks on ice and I don't think they are getting any better. Atlanta hasn't been very good either but with all the talent they have on their offense I have to think they have a higher ceiling than Baltimore.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Is Matt Bryant hurt again? owner dropped him and I'll likely add him or Walsh as my ROS kicker to replace Bailey.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
This might answer my question above. Matt Bryant was dropped and I'll put in claim for him to replace Bailey and be my ROS kicker.
Buzzbait
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm holding. It all really depends on how deep your rosters go. In one league (previous post) we have short rosters and I can't afford to hold so I dumped Tucker two weeks early for Bryant. In the league where I have Ghost we have 20 slots so I'm holding and picked up Novak for one week.
Buzzbait
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He should be good to go. Last week he was on the injury report with a back issue but was taken off later in the week. Looking this morning I don't see him listed on any reports for this week.
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Gottabesweet
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4th&inches
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Was just about to post this. Anyone actually know what happened to him?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Never met him but followed his blog & Twitter feed. After he left FBGs staff he posted for a couple years on h.s. & college kicker prospects, soccer, and some NFL kicker news. Kickology ceased posting10/29/15 without explanation.
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VikingFrog
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Greg Z dropped in both leagues I’m in.
I never carry two kickers, but If you can ditch a bench flyer that has limited upside, he’s probably worth grabbing.
I never carry two kickers, but If you can ditch a bench flyer that has limited upside, he’s probably worth grabbing.
TartanLion
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I only became a subscriber to FBG in 2014 and he was still involved then for the first 2 years I had the subscription, used to like pouring over his charts and trying to discern patterns
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Ilov80s
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The General
Footballguy
Same situation. Have Tucker but wanted to hold him through his upcoming bye. Usually like to start the same kicker every week because I hate trying to guess week to week kicker but Legatron seemed worth my last bench spot.VikingFrog said:
Will probably pick one in a few weeks.
I traded him and $5 in FAAB money for Hauschka to the Succop owner. Happy to be moving on from Bryant, even if it cost me 2.5 percent of my FAAB.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
15-20+ point weeks from your K are awesome when they come, but what I want more than anything is a guy who is on an offense that consistently provides FGA. The floor is more important than the ceiling when it comes to the position we’d all prefer to eliminate.
Butker, Elliott, & Lutz are the only three kickers who have yet to score below 8
Butker, Elliott, & Lutz are the only three kickers who have yet to score below 8
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
True, it's such a game dependent position you need to have as much as possible surrounding the guy. Nothing worse than taking a zero because of a shutout, even rbs & wrs can pile up a few yardage points in those kind of games.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Couple thoughts:
- Nugent for the Cowpokes had a nice first game.
- Butker has been outta control good. Two 20+ points in 4 games is the stuff of season changing RB2's. I'm not dropping him at the bye. Funny thing is Carolina took the unusual step of an NFL team to carry two kickers to hold him, so why shouldn't an FF team?
- Nugent for the Cowpokes had a nice first game.
- Butker has been outta control good. Two 20+ points in 4 games is the stuff of season changing RB2's. I'm not dropping him at the bye. Funny thing is Carolina took the unusual step of an NFL team to carry two kickers to hold him, so why shouldn't an FF team?
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King of the Jungle
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Leroy Hoard
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Dallas & Houston K were both available this week, went Houston just because things are a little unsettled on Dallas O. with the RB thingy. Would have settled for Nugent though.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Held Zeuerlein through the bye, picked up Butker who was just lying around and was pleased with the results. Now i'm faced with who to start, never thought i'd have to agonize over a kicker, seems stupid. Probably stay with Butker since theyre indoors this week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He has two podcasts (Late Round Quarterback / Living the Stream) that are decent. Harris FF is still my favorite podcast but rarely has anything on Ks.
Rushed out in waivers earlier this week and grabbed the HOU kicker K. Fairbairn. That looked like a genius move at the time, but now with Watson out I see that game as a potential offensive clunker. He's not getting the floor of 5 XPs now plus maybe 2-3 FGs. However, I've noticed all the experts still have him ranked top 5. Dumb as usual.
Thinking B. Walsh is a good get. SEA at home. Rolling. Wash travelling west minus several weapons (Crowder/Reed) and all kinds of banged up on the offensive line. Blowout.
Thinking B. Walsh is a good get. SEA at home. Rolling. Wash travelling west minus several weapons (Crowder/Reed) and all kinds of banged up on the offensive line. Blowout.
Buntker was just dropped in my league. I plan on dumping Bryant for him, and just taking the zero (I'm top seed now).
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
So they're locks except when they're not?
But overall, as I've said elsewhere in this thread, the most accurate predictor of how a kicker will do ROS tends to be what they've done so far in the season (but not what they've done in previous seasons, which is why you shouldn't draft one early).
So yes, I think it's worth trying to get one of those three, especially Butker and Zuerlein since they're on such good offenses.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Yeah, Jerry said it was an 8 week thing and he's missed about 3. So looking at a month more of Nugent. If you trust Jerry talking about injuries.
NeverEnough
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