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https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/761292-index-to-offensive-player-and-team-threads/Pardon me, but is there an "officlal" Cooper Kupp thread? If so, please send a link.
He's a top 10 er this week isn't he? I have Robby Anderson just above him this week by a nose. Both top 10 WR plays.Not a lot of guys I would start ahead of him this week. Love his future with Goff moving forward too.......
You are trying to outsmart yourself.Magic_Man said:May play him over T. Hill and/or Diggs this week.
I should have played him over Hill or Diggslast week, but I left Hill & Diggs in. That was a bad move.You are trying to outsmart yourself.
i would say very doubtful. kupp lines up all over and is on the end of the line like a TEish a lot tooAny chance Peterson shadows Kupp instead of Watkins?
That wouldn’t be the reason Peterson wouldn’t follow him. PP usually follows the number 1 guy no matter where he lines up.i would say very doubtful. kupp lines up all over and is on the end of the line like a TEish a lot too
As bad as noodle arm Alex Smith is i dont blame you but Tyreek might blow up despite his situation. Kupp def has a higher floor.Playing him over Tyreek, Amari (who could miss anyways), Juju, and Hyde. So they'll probably all go off and he'll probably have a mediocre game.
PP will shadow Watkins. The few times this year he did not shadow the other teams best WR was those cases where the other teams best WR was more of a possession WR but that team had a WR who could take the top off.Any chance Peterson shadows Kupp instead of Watkins?
Amari and Juju likely out. I'd prefer Hyde and Tyreek.steelers1080 said:Playing him over Tyreek, Amari (who could miss anyways), Juju, and Hyde. So they'll probably all go off and he'll probably have a mediocre game.
It is looking like juju will playAmari and Juju likely out. I'd prefer Hyde and Tyreek.
I'm going for floor right now because I'm projected to win by 30 points in week 1 of the 2 week playoffs, so I just want a relatively safe play. I'd rather have 80% chance of 8 points, than a 30% chance of 16 points.Milkman said:As bad as noodle arm Alex Smith is i dont blame you but Tyreek might blow up despite his situation. Kupp def has a higher floor.
Even if they go up they'll still go to him to move the chains on 3rd downsCan ARI score enough points so that LAR will continue to throw late into the game before it becomes a grind it out Gurley game and tick, tick, tick for the W?
I like Kupps a lot this week and so does Bloom. Choices, choices...
Kupps could get his 100 yards and a score in the first 3 quarters, correct? Although I'd prefer it if ARI could keep it somewhat close and more of a shoot out - lol. Vegas has it around 26 - 19 LAR. Say 27 points. Three total TD's, one to Gurley on the ground or air and two more.
There's no "s" in his name. There are 2 girls but there is only one Kupp.Team Smokin' said:Can ARI score enough points so that LAR will continue to throw late into the game before it becomes a grind it out Gurley game and tick, tick, tick for the W?
I like Kuppsa lot this week and so does Bloom. Choices, choices...
Kuppscould get his 100 yards and a score in the first 3 quarters, correct? Although I'd prefer it if ARI could keep it somewhat close and more of a shoot out - lol. Vegas has it around 26 - 19 LAR. Say 27 points. Three total TD's, one to Gurley on the ground or air and two more.
meme?There's no "s" in his name. There are 2 girls but there is only one Kupp.
Yeah he's hard to bench right now. Have to decide between Kupp, J. Williams and Collins in one league and I don't have the guts to start him over Fournette in another.Is he a must start this week? Debating between him and Baldwin. If Peterson is on Watkins, Kupp could have another big game.
My bad.......As bad as noodle arm Alex Smith is i dont blame you but Tyreek might blow up despite his situation. Kupp def has a higher floor.
With Juju fading of late could see Kupp earning that distinction. Don't think there's anything scary for him out of the slot (assuming Woods returns) next week vs. Seattle and he could kill it in Week 16 vs. Tennessee. Wouldn't surprise me if he's this year's Adam Thielen.So it is official? Is he the best rookie WR this year, like Steve Smith predicted?
You don't think the bloom will be off the rose a bit with Woods back next week?I'm actually surprised it took him this long to become a weekly must-start type of player.
I would listen to what the team says for insight on that.You don't think the bloom will be off the rose a bit with Woods back next week?
I think the bloom will come off Watkins, whatever bloom is still there.You don't think the bloom will be off the rose a bit with Woods back next week?
I did not care for him this past week lol. Thankfully, he did not cost me a win.This kid has been my favorite post draft pick up this year.
They had been. Matchup was a good one but Woods being back and game flow hurt Kupp a lot.Saw someone hyping Dede last week by saying that the Seahawks are turrible against WR2s this season.
Same here. He's fun to watch!I did not care for him this past week lol. Thankfully, he did not cost me a win.
Rams have to add someone to stretch the defense. Watkins didn't do much but I think he was still receiving the #1 coverage. Paul Richardson would be a nice speed guy that would fit well of the top of my head. I expect both Woods & Kupp to put up better reception/yardage totals but probably a little less efficient w/o Watkins there.Watkins has moved on, Woods signed a 5 year deal that works as a two year deal (no cap hit after 2018) and Kupp posted a pro-rated (Rams sat everyone week 17) 66-927-5. 100 targets over 16 games.
I can see Kupp getting 125 targets at a 65% catch rate. 81 catches.
14 Y/R might be a bit high with Woods also averaging 14 Y/R, think Kupp comes down to about 13.25 as he adds a few shorter routes that Watkins used to run. Kupp's slightly bigger than Woods, but not drastically. 1,073 yards.
TD per 13 receptions is low. This number comes back up to 10 with Watkins not dominating red zone TD throws (Watkins 2017 TDs were 1, 13, 67, 17, 5, 11, 1, 3). By Comp, Kupp's were (18, 7, 6, 14, 18) and Woods are (52, 4, 94, 12, 1).
Of the 18 TD passes to the top 3 WRs (Gurley is a separate beast), 15 were in the RZ. I think Kupp moves to a TD per 10 Reception number.
Gives a 2018 line of 81-1073-8, or a pretty decent WR2.
Don't forget this was his rookie season. I think he's very undervalued in PPR.Watkins has moved on, Woods signed a 5 year deal that works as a two year deal (no cap hit after 2018) and Kupp posted a pro-rated (Rams sat everyone week 17) 66-927-5. 100 targets over 16 games.
I can see Kupp getting 125 targets at a 65% catch rate. 81 catches.
14 Y/R might be a bit high with Woods also averaging 14 Y/R, think Kupp comes down to about 13.25 as he adds a few shorter routes that Watkins used to run. Kupp's slightly bigger than Woods, but not drastically. 1,073 yards.
TD per 13 receptions is low. This number comes back up to 10 with Watkins not dominating red zone TD throws (Watkins 2017 TDs were 1, 13, 67, 17, 5, 11, 1, 3). By Comp, Kupp's were (18, 7, 6, 14, 18) and Woods are (52, 4, 94, 12, 1).
Of the 18 TD passes to the top 3 WRs (Gurley is a separate beast), 15 were in the RZ. I think Kupp moves to a TD per 10 Reception number.
Gives a 2018 line of 81-1073-8, or a pretty decent WR2.
Woods isn't slow (4.51 in the 40 at the combine). Kupp is slower.Rams have to add someone to stretch the defense. Watkins didn't do much but I think he was still receiving the #1 coverage. Paul Richardson would be a nice speed guy that would fit well of the top of my head. I expect both Woods & Kupp to put up better reception/yardage totals but probably a little less efficient w/o Watkins there.
Agreed. I was shocked at how good Woods looked last year, and am a little concerned that if he receives more attention his effectiveness will drop.Josh Reynolds could be the deep threat guy. I don't mean that an an endorsement of him (don't know much about him), but he looked decent in the playing time he earned with Woods out due to injury.
I am a Kupp owner in a keeper league, so perhaps I see things optimistically, but my first impression in all this is Woods potentially getting the #1 cornerback could be a volume boost for Kupp. I'm not sold on Woods as a true #1 for real life, though I think he's proven he's a really valuable real life player for the Rams.
Don't forget that Cooper is old for a rookie (will be 25 next year), is already a technician and probably maxed out athletically. I don't think he's reached his ceiling or anything yet, I think he could be a 100 catch guy in the right system. But I think he already does alot of the stuff that helps rookies make that leap in year 2/3. Let's see though.Don't forget this was his rookie season. I think he's very undervalued in PPR.
I feel like 100 catches would be pushing him into WR1 territory. Given his volume in the 65 catch range last year, I think it's pretty reasonable to project him adding about one catch per game on average, up to 80 receptions. I'd be very happy with solid WR2 production.cockroach said:Don't forget that Cooper is old for a rookie (will be 25 next year), is already a technician and probably maxed out athletically. I don't think he's reached his ceiling or anything yet, I think he could be a 100 catch guy in the right system. But I think he already does alot of the stuff that helps rookies make that leap in year 2/3. Let's see though.
Oh yea, I wouldn't project him for that, but he has the hands and route running ability to make it a realityI feel like 100 catches would be pushing him into WR1 territory. Given his volume in the 65 catch range last year, I think it's pretty reasonable to project him adding about one catch per game on average, up to 80 receptions. I'd be very happy with solid WR2 production.
I feel like 100 catches would mean something has really gone wrong with the Rams' offense.