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Refs Should be Accountable for Making Awful Calls (1 Viewer)
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Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Judge Smails
Footballguy
They lose their jobs, don't get to do playoffs/superbowls, etc. They are held accountable to the tape every week.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Because the fans forgot how terrible the regular refs were during the replacement refs ordeal and forced the NFL to cave without getting full time refs or instant accountability/discipline for poor performance from refs, both of which were on the table.
I said it then and I'll say it now, the next time you're pissed off about how poor the refs are, you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.
I said it then and I'll say it now, the next time you're pissed off about how poor the refs are, you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.
Deamon
Footballguy
There's still the human error possibility that brings excitment to the game. They are taking more and more of that away with replay, but penalties would be really hard to do. Baseball could easily make an electronic strike zone, but its part of the game to yell at umpires.Players face fines, after the fact of said infraction, due to technology. Why aren't referees held to the same standard?
Horrible calls should should face some sort of punishment.
You can't fine a guy if he saw a guy hold another guy.
Leviathan
Footballguy
It should be, IMO. The outcome of a team's season hangs in the balance. This isn't baseball. Each week in the NFL is practically a playoff game.
Players don't get fined for missing blocks or dropping balls.Players face fines, after the fact of said infraction, due to technology. Why aren't referees held to the same standard?
Horrible calls should should face some sort of punishment.
If a ref ever punches somebody during a game, maybe he'll get fined.
Leviathan
Footballguy
I remember a ref throwing a flag that hit a player in the eye. Granted, that was a freak accident.Players don't get fined for missing blocks or dropping balls.Players face fines, after the fact of said infraction, due to technology. Why aren't referees held to the same standard?
Horrible calls should should face some sort of punishment.
If a ref ever punches somebody during a game, maybe he'll get fined.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Orlando Brown. Got a big settlement out of that fiasco too.I remember a ref throwing a flag that hit a player in the eye. Granted, that was a freak accident.Players don't get fined for missing blocks or dropping balls.Players face fines, after the fact of said infraction, due to technology. Why aren't referees held to the same standard?
Horrible calls should should face some sort of punishment.
If a ref ever punches somebody during a game, maybe he'll get fined.
Leviathan
Footballguy
Really? I still see refs, who have made atrocious calls, participating in playoff games.
Leviathan
Footballguy
Technology is applied towards players on a daily basis. They're fined on a later date due to technology. Late hit, helmet to helmet, etc.Refs, not so much.
Move the damn refs to the press box and have them watch monitors and call the game. Better results and less human error. Also reviews allowed on every play but the outcome has to be stated prior to the snap.
Snoopy
Footballguy
And Jeff Triplette who threw that flag is still reffing.Orlando Brown. Got a big settlement out of that fiasco too.I remember a ref throwing a flag that hit a player in the eye. Granted, that was a freak accident.Players don't get fined for missing blocks or dropping balls.Players face fines, after the fact of said infraction, due to technology. Why aren't referees held to the same standard?
Horrible calls should should face some sort of punishment.
If a ref ever punches somebody during a game, maybe he'll get fined.
Snoopy
Footballguy
I believe the officials have their own review process and get graded every game and can face consequences. Most people never hear of those is because the NFL wants those kept quiet, unlike that for players or coaches, and the officials have to do a lot of stuff to not discuss a lot of details on the operations of officials.
GreenNGold
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The refs are held accountable, and overall, they are great.
Leviathan
Footballguy
Ed Hochuli? He was directly involved in a terrible call. Many moons ago, mind you, but terrible nonetheless. What was his fine, exactly?
GreenNGold
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I believe that refs can only be disciplined for performance at the end of the season, not on a game by game basis (whereas players can be cut/benched at any time). This was one of the points of contention in the lockout. The NFL wanted to be able to react quicker to poor refereeing.
Leviathan
Footballguy
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Hochuli was downgraded by the NFL, which affected his future usage, including playoff assignments. He has not worked a Super Bowl since 2004.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
But how are they accountable to fantasy football players?
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
when has a player ever been fined for a terrible play? Your question was answered in the first or second reply. And you've been more wrong with each subsequent post.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
Bad players get cut when they repeatedly suck. Bad refs like Jeff Tripplette stick around...forever.
CR69
Footballguy
To those complaining about the quality of officiating, go try it sometime. I used to ##### about calls every week until I started working high school games this year. It's very difficult to catch the things they do with all of that action going on around you. Sure, everyone makes mistakes. But unless you want the games to take 7 hours so every call can be reviewed and voted on, you're going to have to deal with humans doing the job. And that's what they are, human.
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Officials get reviewed and graded after every game. And if Triplet 'sucked', he wouldn't be an NFL official anymore. You're confusing making calls that don't favor your team with bad calls.
lod01
Footballguy
If they truly were, there would be new faces every week. This week was brutal...as is most weeks. It ATL, Freeman didn't not score. Julio actually did score (he was not touched when his knee was down - thus he was not down). Hankerson's TD did not have clear evidence that he didn't score. That's just the ATL game. In NO, the Bucs were awarded a fumble recovery when clearly, the defensive guy did not have possession until he was out of bounds.
This is really pissing me off. Ref standing at goal line, player clearly scores TD, ref looks around at other refs to see what they are doing, other ref signal TD. Dude, you were right there, 5 feet away from the guy.
lod01
Footballguy
There is a difference. You are an amateur referee. Some of these guys have been doing it for 30 years and still suck. They are professional referees yet they look like amateurs.
MAC_32
Footballguy
In most cases I think the whining about officials is obnoxiously hilarious in a just shut up and watch the game sorta way, but Tripplette really is terrible at his job.
VaTerp
Footballguy
If he is doing HS football then he is getting paid and is NOT an amateur referee. He is refereeing amateur athletics but not an amateur official. Secondly, the point remains that people love to bash officials while watching replays in HD from the comfort of their couch or sitting behind their keyboard but have no idea what its like to actually try to officiate a game in live action.
I'm a college and HS basketball official and have done football in the past. I agree with CR69 suggestion that everyone should try to do it themselves. It's not nearly as easy as most think. Just because you think an official "sucks" does not mean your opinion matches reality.
Officials at all levels, and especially in the NFL, have rigorous training, review, and grading processes. They are absolutely held accountable for their performance.
saintsfan1977
Footballguy
There are a few plays where the speed of the game will make it hard on the ref but most plays, not so much. And since all plays are review able this shouldnt be a problem. No game will last 7 hours. All they have to do is keep throwing their dirty laundry and then it takes 2 seconds for someone upstairs to review it and correct the call on the field. Thats it. We can see it from home, everything. So does the guy upstairs. Holding call? Nope never happened, Lets move on. PI? Nope lets move on. This subjective crap is what killed the sport.
But the NFL doesnt want that and neither do the powers that be that really control this game. You see this parity is all an illusion. Its forced so that there is this mantra called "Any Given Sunday". Without it you would have the best teams always winning and the bad teams would have no chance. The draft is setup so that the worst teams get to choose among the best players to create this false hope that the number 1 selection will bring a bottom feeder a SB trophy. Cleveland, Jacksonville, Detroit, Texans have never won a SB and probably never will. If anyone thinks they have an equal chance as the rest of the NFL come week 1 every year I have ocean front property in Kansas along with a bridge I will sell you. A SB trophy is an award, not for excellence but to something that happens in the NFL world. Its a token of appreciation to get the minds of the fans off the real world.
The NFL is the WWE. They dont care how bad the product is, how many games are decided by officials, or how much fans ##### about any of it. they are making billions. Between FF, gambling and TV Network deals, the NFL is full steam ahead and now that Fan Duel and Draft Kings are taking money, the NFL will continue to keep putting out a mirage.
With that said I love the NFL. I love the games, I love my team, but I know what it is.
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dagwood
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saintsfan1977
Footballguy
Because he is an excellent employee. He is doing exactly as he is instructed. I think he even goes above and beyond the call of duty.
lod01
Footballguy
Whatever. Let me rephrase that. There is a huge difference between him and NFL refs. He's NOT a professional referee.
Short Corner
Footballguy
IIRC, that one bad call kept him out of multiple post seasons, and he is one of the better refs IMO. The call actually brought the present MO of not making the mistake of blowing a play dead rather than the contrary where you risk injury to players by swallowing your whistle just to see how things play out...just in case.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Short Corner
Footballguy
got moved from the register to the fryer?It was worse than Hochuli's fine.Not my point.
Hang 10
Footballguy
You saying Tripplette isn't bad at his job? Because you might be the first to ever defend this idiot.
I'm saying that the NFL has a very rigid way of grading their officials and I'm sure it's more effective than your biased way. They don't care about a 'perceived-by-you-to-be-a' blown call that takes points from your fantasy running back. Or costs your pro team a game. If he was as bad as you say, he wouldn't have a job. And it's laughable that you think you're a better judge of officiating than the league is.
Hang 10
Footballguy
So I say that Jeff Tripplette is proof that the NFL puts up with lackluster officials and you counter it with he's not lackluster because the NFL puts up with him? Guess we're done here.
I would say so. Since you think you're a better evaluator than the league. LOL Perhaps they should hire you.
Hang 10
Footballguy
http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/01/04/nfl-assigns-jeff-triplette-san-diego-cincinnatiI would say so. Since you think you're a better evaluator than the league. LOL Perhaps they should hire you.
I will wait for you to counter with an article defending this boob.
